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Counter Type Skills Adjusted
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Skill
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Details
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Counter / Breaking
/ Reflect Kick
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– Both ‘Counter effect’ and ‘Magical Projectile reflect effect’ activates. (Two effects are unified)
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Elsword
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Category
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Detail
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Passive
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Intense Strike
– ‘Damage and Cooldown increase rate per level’ increased
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Counter Patience
– ‘Damage increase buff time and amount’ increased
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Wind Cutter
– Sword Auras recover slight MP per hit
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Warrior Physique
– Damage Reduction Increased
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Pain Suppression
– ‘Max HP Increase’ Increased
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Enhanced Fireball
– ‘Fireball/Rune damage increase’ increased
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Rune Mastery
– Size and Range increase amount increased
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Iron Physique
– Max HP increase rate increased
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Active/Buff
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Rolling Smash
– Activation speed increased
– MP cost decreased. Damage redistributed to give more damage towards impact part of the attack.
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Critical Sword
– Buff duration increased
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Special Active
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Sword Fire
– Maximum range and fire sword duration increased
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Sword Fall
– Faster sword falling speed. Attacking style changed.
– Damage Increased
– Cooldown increased
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Phantom Sword
– Size of the sword increased 1.5x
– Duration increased
– Critical chance increase effect added
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Final Strike
– Added hit damage to the black hole
– Faster execution speed
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Hyper Active
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Gigantic Slash / Shining Rune Buster / Blade Rain
– Skill damage increased
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Aisha
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Category
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Detail
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Command
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EM’s command Lighting XZZ,XXZZ
– Doesn’t known down. Damage greatly decreased
– Changed so more lighting falls down while holding the button.
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VP XXFrontX
– Problem where Dark Shock Balls could miss because they were summoned too frontwards fixed
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DW Dash XX
– Visual effect added to easily identify dragging attack
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Active/Buff
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Teleport
– Extra MP cost increase for teleporting within 2 seconds
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Special Active
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Lightning Shower
– Stun time decreased
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Magic Missile
– Initial Damage greatly increased
– Damage decreases gradually over time
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Hell Stone
– Damage Decreased
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Plasma Cutter
– Damage Decreased
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Hyper Active
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Elemental Storm / Abyss Angkor / Fate Space
– Skill damage increased
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Rena
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Category
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Detail
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Active/Buff
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Binding Seed
– Trap setup time decreased
– Trap debuff duration decreased
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Thorn Vine Trap
– Trap setup time decreased
– Trap hit damage slightly increased
– Trap PvP damage decreased
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Explosive Trap
– Trap setup time decreased
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Entangle
– Ignore defense effect removed
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Seeds of Wrath
– Detection range decreased
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Special Active
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Spiral Strike
– Initial range increased
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Phoenix Strike
– Damage decreases gradually over time
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Hyper Active
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Spiral Strike/Shooter Destiny
– Skill damage increased
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Raven
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Category
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Detail
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Active/Buff
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Sonic Slash
– Forward movement speed increased during skill execution
– Mana Burn effect added
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Special Active
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Shockwave
– Change to Physical
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Infernal Arms
– Hitbox improved
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Revolver Cannon
– When using overheat, can cancel during final motion
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Hyper Active
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Extreme Blade / Burning Buster
– Skill damage increased
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Eve
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Category
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Detial
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Command
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Code Architecture XXZ
– Cancel point added after summoning Oberon
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Active Buff
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Tesla Shock
– Range increased
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Special Active
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Illusion Strike
– Confusion effect removed
– Base damage increased
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Junk Break
– Changed so it pushes but doesn’t lift targets
– Base damage increased
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Hornet Sting
– Damage Increased
– Shaped Charge doesn’t knock down
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Atomic Blaster
– Damage increased
– Blast Gun range increased
– Sonic Gun projectile damage slightly decreased. Projectile damage increases further the projectile travels.
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Dimension Link – Guardian
– Can cancel after using the skill
– Damage decreases gradually over time
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Assault Spear – Judgement
– Damage decreases gradually over time
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Heaven’s Fist – Sweeper
– Damage decreased gradually over time
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Giga Stream
– Damage Decreased
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Hyper Active
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Psychic Artillery
– Skill damage increased
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Chung
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Category
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Detail
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Passive
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Advanced Metabolism Boost
– ‘MP increase on command hits’ Increased
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Strong Will
– Added ‘MP increase on command hits’ effect
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Active/Buff
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Rumble Shot
– Doesn’t hit bottom platform
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Special Active
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Heavy Railgun
– Damage decrease gradually over time
– Explosion damage remains the same
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Carpet Bombing
– Damage decreased
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Chaos Cannon
– Changed so target cannot get hit by both side cannons at the same time
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Hyper Active
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Outrage Strike
– Skill damage increased
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Ara
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Category
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Details
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Active/Buff
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Phantom Fox 3 – Rapid Raid
– Cooldown increased
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Special Active
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Falling Dragon / Suppression:Bond / Flying Kite
– Energy cost to use changed to 10
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Flying Kite
– Horizontal detection range decreased
– Last hit knocks down
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Suppression:Specter
– Range decreased
– MP cost increased
– Damage increased
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Restrain Specter
– Range decreased
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Spell : Thunderbolt
– PvP teleport range decreased
– Changed so targets standing on bottom platform aren’t hit
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Energy Wave
– Damage decrease gradually over time
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Fox Fire
– Projectile speed decrease gradually over time
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Hyper Active
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Thousand Blossoms / Hell Blast
– Skill damage increased
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Elesis
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Category
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Detail
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System
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Chivalry
– Annihilation revenge attack knocks targets down faster
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Passive
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Judgement
– PvP damage decreased
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Fire Stigma
– Explosion debuff removed
– Explosion damage greatly increased
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Active/Buff
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Rushing Sword
– Damage decreased
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Assault Strike
– Debuff duration decreased
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Stoic – Strong
– MP cost increased
– Revenge attack knocks targets down faster
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Special Active
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Blazing Dance
– Last hit knocks down
– Damage increased
– Horizontal detection range decreased
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Blaze Wing
– Damage decrease gradually over time
– No hitstun after first hit
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Blood Cutter
– Change so it doesn’t do extra hits on cornered targets
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Ejection Buster
– Damage decreased
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Hyper Active
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Sword of Relics / Ancient Fire / Fate Smasher
– Skill damage increased
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Add
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Category
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Detail
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Command
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Z / ZZ
– Hitstun decreased
– Range slightly decreased
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X / XX / XXX
– Changed so it doesn’t hit bottom platform
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Passive
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Dynamo Research – Overcharge
– Doesn’t increase range when charged
– Homing power decreased when charged
– Damage increased even more when charged
– Size increased when charged
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Fantasy Tracer
– Tracking range changed to match basic Nasod Armor combo range
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Nasod Armor Mode – Transform
– Will not gain MP when Mutation Points are full
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New Update!
– Maximum Stack amount decreased
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Active/Buff
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Particle Shot
– Base Range slightly decreased
– Firing speed slightly increased
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Phase Shift
– Explosion hitstun time decreased
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Dynamo Config – Space Crack
– MP cost and additional cost decreased
– Total damage modifier added. Base/Moving shot damage unified.
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Special Active
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Install – Shooting Chaser
– MP cost increased
– damage increased
– PvP tracking range decreased
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Install – Ultimate Furry
– PvP tracking range decreased
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Void field
– doesn’t hit bottom platform
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Phantom Seeker
– Damage gradually decreased over time
– No hitstun after first hit
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Hyper Active
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Doomsday
– Skill Damage Increased
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Time Tracer
Diabolic Esper
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PvP damage for skills decreased
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KOG NERF AISHA MORE!? TELE COST MANA MORE??
can i call them mastard now???
yeah, i agree on that. DW hasn’t had much going for her lately and all they did was change an animation and nerf aisha’s teleport further…
sure fate space is stronger, but surviving 3 mins is tough without some OP red dam (and add dam trolls it anyway)
No more nerfing the lolis pls
GUYS. STOP COMPLAINING.THIS IS BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED NERFS. STOP COMPLAINING AND DEAL WITH IT.
-Sharkist
I gotta agree with ya xD
I love dis balance. huehuehue
I just think this swallow nerf will not serve for nothing? I mean, I faced the worst Aras and they simply just ran and gathered energy and wore swallow in my face and even tried to combo me after that, it will only change now is that they will have to run longer to join 10.
Kog trying to solve the problem without going to the root of the problem.
Sorry for my english, i’m spanish.
why KOG! Why!! why aisha always being nerf!! why!! especially EM! huuh! really not fair at all.. it sucks
that’s right !!!
That’s sot true!! I can’t combo anymore cuz you have to hold the button :L EMs also do less dmg now
They can’t combo after it anymore ‘cuz its been non-cancellable for almost 3 months already, and it knocks down in the end. So yeah. <3
ah where did u find swallow assault?
cuz i see flying kite nerf; n the reason for the KD on last hit is because SD can continue a combo right after the skill
What You thinking KOG!? WHY NERF Again!? My GrM not have much skill to do the large damage is have only RUSHING SWORD then you’ll nerf them!? not have high damage skill & also nerf skill FUCK!!! Why not Delete GrM Class from this game HaH!!! I’m very angry and when come to my country I’m Sure will not play GrM anymore or Not Play This Game ANYMORE!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK How much you want to nerf My Char?. GrM EM DW YR CBS BM All of them Nerf!!! you sure your understand this word “Re-Balance”?
Sorry for My Bad English But FUCK YOU KOG!!!
Dude GrM and all Elesis for that matter, have high attack damage and defense anyways. Why are you still whining?
Add and Ara problems…
i crai they’ll still rekt our ass
Hi. I use 5 characters: GrM, SD, CBS, GA and YR. All of them use secret dungeon gear (usually draconic- I’m a pve player) My GrM have an iron claymore from Eltrion, while the rest of my chars use regular +8 or +9 weapons. My GrM, even without this nerf, is still utterly inferior to the rest of my chars. Nerfing rushing sword is a huge blow to a character who isn’t great in any way to begin with. An before telling me GrM is a pvp character, remind me how many GrM did you see in the season 3 (NA) finals? laberedaular may be ranting, but he’s telling the truth.
Have you ever tried to play LK in season 3 ?
i understand hell stone being nerfed, but plasma cutter? really? plasma cutter’s damage is already low already
Shockwave
– Change to Physical
WHAT
Is that good?
is the worst ==”
the only magical attack we hand and its changed to physical… :T
now 2-x will be even harder Dx
I disagree. This change now makes shockwave PvP viable since it now gives BM MP sinking burst, something he was lacking. To me, it’s a sound design. BM was always designed with PvP in mind, buffs to him in that regard always seem natural to me. This being said, it’s been a while since I’ve had a BM, and I don’t exactly remember all the hits of shockwave being what one might call “easy” to land. None the less, it can hardly be seen as a nerf. Magic damage wasn’t blade master’s forte to begin with. Just bring a couple of wind orbs with you on secret dungeon runs and you’ll be fine.
Lol this is what I first said when they changed Creasent Kick to Physical as well XD, a skill that looks magical seems to be physical, but I guess it can be based on physique but other than that why change that skill to physical…
Rena is a magical attack based character. No matter what class you go for as Rena, her magical attack will always be higher than her physical attack, so for her, that attack type change is a nerf.
On the other hand, Raven has higher physical attack than magical attack. Especially since BM has the highest physical attack out of the three Raven characters, changing it from magical damage to physical damage is a significant buff.
now THIS is balance patch
Best balance patch after a whole time well done kog. :D i like it.
Entangle : Ignore defense effect removed
you gotta be kidding me KOG?
NO WAY
WHAT?! DEFENSE IGNORING IS GONE FROM ENTANGLE?! KOG I don’t find that fair at all. :/ that skill is such a good one and now it can’t be used as effectively… I’m not so sure how I feel about this update…
I very very very love this balance patchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *-*
raven’s rebalance is the shortest.. well glad he didn’t get nerfed lol
YAAAASSSSS KOG YAAAASSSSSS
#DWBuffNextRight?
You all nerfed MM way too hard. Way too hard! now he cant really get MP to use any moves and when he does use a move any1 can just run out of them. No MP, it would’nt hold them and he already cant take hits.
Yeah I totally disagree with MM’s nerf… The real solution it’s to remove Add from the game c:
^ dis c:
I agree completely. If anything they should have left MM alone and only focused on DE. If anything, they should really buff his HP and Defense so they can balance the MP gain nerf.
But are you really surprised? Tis the KoG way. Over nerf something into the ground or don’t nerf it at all!
MM is the best runner class ever.
Nerfing his range and hitstun should influence you to actually play the game rather than play like S1 EM and fleeing and charging only to spam Magic Missile.
KOG THINK THAT ENTANGLE IS ISO IMBALANCE THAT ITS NEED TO BE NERFED WHILE GA OVERALL ALREADY DROWN IN PVP ??
GA? Drown in pvp? XX and Entangle for daaaaaaays
XX and entangle is lol. Entangle now is even more lol. Before it was Nature resist it and you’re fine for the most part. Now? Using Entangle? Get caught and tank her. She can’t do damage. You don’t even need nature resist for it now since it’s not even a big threat anymore (2v2 and 3v3 is a different story)
Add was barely touched in the nerf
NERF HIM MORE!!
You idiot. I am guessing your an aisha/ara/raven player. Add was touched big time for MM. Typical that players like you hate on add considering you may feel threatened cause you finally found a character more OP than aisha/raven/ara. :/
And I’m assuming you don’t know what a joke is (◐∇◐*)
Funny thing is I main Add and I love Add. Stop being butthurt.
Stop flame baiting. If that was intended as a joke, you quite clearly didn’t make it obvious. Any level 6 internet newb knows sarcasm, unless made to do so, doesn’t translate well over text.
u probably main an elfag not aisha/ara/raven
Awww, awesome update except for the shockwave pshy change and Fire stigma
Thou I can’t wait till this comes to NA :D
i miss the no-stoicstrong-for-you fire stigma qwq
Iove the nef on elesis but the buff on elboy, why the stoic is not touched?, i dont use entagle thx for the nature resist decrease
Damn, they’re nerfing Add, what is going through their minds ?
I mean, Code Nemesis was way more overpowered !
Wait…
finally something good for the BM kog go on
good? it was a butthurt qwq
That Aisha nerf..
And no Queens Throne fix yet? Wat.
Those Aisha nerfs were entirely unnecessary. **** you KOG.
But wait a minute….. do I see….. Code Nemesis buffs?! And….. ACTUAL ELESIS NERFS?!
What the hell is going on?! They’re actually giving buffs and nerfs to those that actually need it for once!
What’s going on?
Magic that’s what~ (◐∇◐*)
They should really take out aishas teleport skill. It’s just too spammable.
WTH! Aisha is the most slowest character and worst its defence is also low. so why take out aishas teleport skill? because its damn spammable? WTH. **** you!
Aisha has the lowest defense and movement speed in the game -.- Taking it out would ruin Aisha completely. Besides, she’s a magician. She’s suppose to teleport. Just cuz ur salty bout it doesn’t mean they’ll take it out. Think bout how Aisha players like me would feel if Teleport’s gone.
Agreed. The Aisha nerfs were greatly unnecessary. So was the Sweeper/Giga Stream damage decrease, nobody uses that stuff in pvp. And yes, Nemesis needed a buff. But DON’T try to make IS better, that class is just annoying garbage.
I can’t say those Add nerfs weren’t coming but… it hurts. Y’all are ruining our fun. Chung mana buff is well deserved. Needs moar VC buffage
No. Now all the Adds users will know what is to really effort to win something.
I’m confused on the Swallow Assault nerf. It says it knocks down at the last hit but what if you cancel the skill with counter for example would that count as the last hit too? Also what is the point of it knocking down when the main damage comes from the first hit of the skill as a burst? You already would have received majority of the damage from the get go so why not just make so you could mana break the skill all together?
agree, they should the MB for dat skill, and its cuz most of the people that use swallow, just get energies, runs and then throw it, to later start to combo
….a lot of this stuff is “u wot m8?” territory.
are they just throwing things at the wall to see what people will accept?
and if they’re nerfing things globally just for PVP’s sake, they’re complete morons, given how they already have stuff that performs differently in PVP and PVE.
Da effy with the Aisha nerfs? at least EM and VP needs buffs in their command dgm! Also, who still uses teleshit now? man, so unnecesary dmg decreases
Otherwise, the best try of balance since a while…
So let’s see……Elesis’ Stoic needs more mana(100mp to 120mp) No problem. Blue Aura fixes it. Rushing Sword….how big is the nerf?(Still awesome as fuck in blue aura. And the level 60 upgrade in GrM is cool too.) Judgment nerf…..meh, I was gonna use Victory anyway.(and besides, it’s a Gale skill, so it’s reasonable.) And nerfs for BH and CrA….fine by me.
For Aisha……Plasma Cutter, dmg reduce?(but nobody uses this skill in PVP, unless we’re talking about Ereda Island here.) Doesn’t change the fact that if you got hit at point blank by that skill…….especially when noted….. Teleport mana use increase if used again within 2 seconds. Simple, wait for two seconds.(you’re already charging by that time.) EM’s XZZ/XXZZ combo reduces damage, but doesn’t knockdown(wait, you mean to say the whole combo doesn’t contribute to knockdowns at all? Wow!) and more lightning strikes. Whoohoo!!!!!!!! More Mana!!!!!
As for Elsword, it mostly went to RS and IS, LK already had his re-balance last time, but giving a slight boost to his passives is great!
I like this patch.
At Lv.20 from 652% to 481%. About almost 25% nerfed. :(
Why:
“Carpet Bombing
– Damage decreased”
WHY KOOOOOG D:
Not enough.
Aisha still needs, at least, 1 second cooldown on Teleport, after being hit. With that, the ridiculous Quick Recovery won’t save their ass all the time.
Also, the fucking Mana Shields needs nerfs too. Reducing its HP / Damage Reduction, or even, impossible to cast while being hit, NEEDS to happen.
Chain Lightning damage is still absurd, the same goes for Dark Cloud.
Swallow Assalt needs to waste all orbs if they miss, reduce the stupid damage, and disable skill cancel.
AAAAGGGRRRREEEEEEE CCCCOOOMMMMPPPLLLEEEETTEEEELLLYYYY
tu chora até aqui sua gorda imunda kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Aisha has been getting nothing but nerfs ever since the ST Revamp. (Shut up about Lightning Shower. Everything else EM had got nerfed.) If you’re STILL losing to them so badly, you seriously need to learn how to play.
Mana Shield has already been nerfed from 80% reduction noted to 46.8% while still based off of 15% of max HP.. What the hell do you want? For her to have Add’s complete lack of survivability? VP is the only one who has damage output on that level. Oh, and that’s about to get nerfed as well. The gravity ball launch nerfed also gutted her catching game. She pretty much HAS to abuse Ring of Fury at this point.
The Teleport nerf has always been largely irrelevant in PVP. We don’t have to teleport that much in PVP. It is a PVE nerf.
GM gets harder to kill when you get her beneath 50% HP. (Agility Mastery doesn’t work in NA, EU, and Void for some reason.) CA gets passive damage reduction and self-healing. Elesis’ mana break also negates the hit that activates it. WS gets damage reduction, resistances, AND a MP generation boost from the same passive AND a healing skill. They are not only harder to kill than Aisha is at this point, but they also hit much harder. And you think Aisha needs to be nerfed more?! Please.
There is no ‘learning’ against scrubs mechanics. By your logic, so, the reason why so many skilled plyers quit, is because they don’t learn how to fight scrubs?
Guess you haven’t wondered why so many consecutive nerfs on her.
Takes almost no skill to play, zero risk and extremely high reward. Dope free catch mechanics, with huge AoE. Begins a match with enough mana to unleash “what players can’t learn how to fight against” dope catch skills with ridiculous range.
Add to the math, magic necklace, a MP+ titles like Valak’s, Edan’s, Henir, the so hard mechanic to master of Meditation, lv 65 2.5 MP regen/sec passive, Guild passive skills (when hit, 50% MP gain), Fireball study that reduce almost by half, the cost of her projectiles.
Whats the result? Fireball spamming without any kind of risk, also it wont even waste MP due to the cost of fireballs being less than the 3.5 MP/sec.
Also we have a character that, use a Mana Shield, that gives flat (yes, flat, not normalized) 46% damage reduction that procs with your current Damage Reduction (30%+ being standard at end game), and requires so much precise timing and skill to use, like, pressing the button anytime, even when someone is combing the hell out of her.
Basically the scrub earn almost 7 MP/hit + highly chance of 7~10~15+ MP from items and titles, plus, her natural 3.5 regen/sec.
Oh, you got catched? Press Mana Shield, be a huge tank at cost of 20MP, wait for enemy combo KD you, then you have almost 300~400 MP to do whatever you want, like, forcing Mana Break with Binding Circle, the ~SO~ difficult, so high risk, no reward skill.
Then, youre free to unleash Chain Lightning doing 10K per hit, generating mana with 6k~hit thunders from xzz, and yet, save enough mana for another binding circle, or even Meteor/Lightning shower, plus a mana break if you get caught aftewards.
Then, what do next? Flee like a pro, wait for Meditation, or let the enemy attack you to proc all your MP gain ~so skillfuly~ mechanic with Mana Shield.
My friend, what i have to say to you is, it isn’t me who have to learn, it’s you. To consider Aisha’s nerfs unnecessary, guess you kinda lose some matches, and, loosing with such ~high risk, no reward~ class like EM, yes, you need to learn.
okay so… you’re complaining that a squishy wizard has something to make themself less squishy.
why don’t you just admit that you want aisha players to stand still for you to murder them?
and regardless of your garbage PVP hellhole, there IS a PVE element to the game, and characters DO have a need to be effective in that completely seperate from PVP trash. try thinking outside your little arena enough to understand the problem here. nerfing PVE for the sake of PVP is pants-on-head retarded because the two gameplay modes should not, by rights, influence eachother.
All things i’ve suggested and replyed, is towards PvP. I did’nt said anything about PvE.
If you know that i was talking about arena, why bother replying?
It isn’t my fault that KOG doesn’t know how to use its own system, that give skills different effects, mechanics and damage from pve to pvp
Oh, and the “fragile” wizard, is actually who gets more HP from anyone else from items. Elsword items give, like, 3~5k of white HP, meanwhile, Aisha, they receive 10k~15k of white HP.
White HP on items aren’t normalized, it’s flat HP increase, unlike of green HP, that can be capped and normalized or even totally ignored if you reach the cap. .
The highest Magic Defense in the game, with almost 50% of damage mitigation coming from a 20mp skill that doesn’t require any kind of timming to be used.
And, gains MP like shit, to mana break whatsoever.
I Kinda doesn’t know what cancer do you guys have. The facts are here, yet, insists of being completely blind and acting like utterly scrubs.
Keep doing this, and Elsword will become the so scrub oriented Grand Chase, with billions of active players.
@DL
Are you comparing RS’s equipment values with EM/DW’s? That’s comparing the worst equipment HP values to the best; of course there’s a huge difference. LP also happens to get the same amount of HP as EM/DW from equipment.
Also, Add. Damage and any damage over time will get past Mana Shield, so the damage mitigation shouldn’t be that much. It also takes 30 MP, so that puts them further from a Mana Break.
There’s also the fact that Aisha’s wakeup teleports have no invulnerability, which means the only ‘safe’ option on wakeup is standing still.
If you’re going to complain about something, actually figure out what problems they already have.
Wait, wait!
So you’re telling me you have a problem with anything Aisha can take to pvp? Not to mention the fact that your example requieres aisha to already have at least 30% damage red from sockets/costumes.
Can you show us how an Aisha should be played without getting salt? With video evidence if you please
This is hilarious, nerfing Aisha again? Aisha, especially VP, is practically unplayable in dungeons to the point where i’m about to drop my VP and just say screw it and quit! What’s the point of re-balancing based off of suggestions from people, no I lied, from haters in PvP? VP needs so many buffs that’s it’s literally sad to look at this nerf. Teleport cost is understandable since some people still spam it greatly -not pointing fingers- But, seriously, plasma cutter damage decrease!? That skill needed a damn Increase in its damage because it’s so weak! Especially in PvP! Honestly, KOG. Your re-balances aren’t even rebalances. They’re just:
Buff Elsword (all the time)
Nerf every other character.
I expected to see Aisha nerfs because people don’t know how to face them properly. It’s really sad to see this, i’m probably going to end up quitting Elsword anyways so I don’t care.
As much as I hate the Aisha nerfs…..
Seriously? You think they buff Elbrat too much? He’s been rendered completely obsolete ever since Elesis came along. Anything he can do, she can do better. He’s pretty much the weakest character overall in PVE and PVP. (When taking the combined classes into account. Obviously, CN is the weakest class. But CE and CBS do well enough for Eve to still be one of the stronger characters.) LK has been one of the worst off classes since forever. (While GM’s rule in PVP is now undisputed since CA just got nerfed.) IS’ Sword Shield that everyone was whining about just got nerfed into the ground. And does RS even have anything going for him in PVE ever since the ST Revamp gutted Sword Fire? He certainly has nothing going for him in PVP after Season 3 nerfed his damage output to appease the whiners except for that stupid projectile reflection passive. And let’s not forget how the Velder ending cutscene was mostly about him getting the living **** beat out of him only for big sister Elesis to save him at the last second…..
I’m still trying to figure out why the game is named after him.
Really? My LK could beat Elesis’ jobs just fine actually. You think Elsword pales against Elesis? A lot of good Elboy players would argue about that. Sure, Elesis move faster and has more debuffs and an offensive-based Stoic that she can activate even when attacked, but Elsword can use his Stoic much more often(Skill note and less mana usage.) and his gauge can be used both offensively and defensively, unlike Elesis who is more focused on offense.(Very obvious when in blue aura as Elsword could easily gain more mana unlike Elesis who doesn’t gain an increased mana gain when hit.)
Elsword in the Velder cutscene was caught off-guard by Chloe since he was already tired from the constant fighting, while Elesis isn’t.(Seriously, take into account the fatigue of the person.) And Elsword could annihilate the whole demon army if he were at full strength using his Hyper Active.(Guess why Aisha didn’t, or rather, couldn’t teleport Elsword, since she’s out of mana. See just how tired they were?) Elesis on the other hand would have been not as tired as Elsword since she’s got a whole battalion of the Red Knights at her command, unlike Elsword with only 3 other people to help him.
Now as for the VP revamp, KOG is slowly adjusting the characters to their respective difficulty.(VP having a Hard difficulty to use.)
There is NO WEAKEST CLASS here. It depends on your skill and creativity on how you use a character. CN is not the weakest of Eve’s classes. Rather, she’s the hardest class to use out of the three, and is the hardest to master out of the three.(It’s not even an understatement to say that she’s the hardest class to play in-game.)
RS shares the same problem as CN. Sure, he’s in ways easier to use than CN, but he’s way harder to use than LK and IS. Sure, his combos are easy to perform, the problem is if you know when to perform said combo You need to know what skill to use, what combo to use, and how to connect the two. That and you gotta watch out for your mana.
I could even say something for EM but I already gave one on an earlier post here.
“I beat Elesises on my LK, therefore Elesis is not overpowered!”
Shut up. Beating bad players does not mean anything. There are bad players of every class.
Try comparing LK and GM’s actual skills, damage modifiers, etc. (Power Break is a much better Armor Break, LK has no equivalent to Provoke, GMs rarely even use Sword of Victory because their opponents never live long enough to warrant it like Armageddon Blade is a core LK skill and inferior to SoV in every way, etc.) or fight a GM player that knows what s/he’s doing.
Or better yet. Just make a Ring of Fury GM with a +10 Mech MK3 Claymore with triple Water then get back to me if you think LK can do anything nearly as devastating as taking out over half an opponent’s health in a single combo while having a high chance of the victim not being able to get away even if they do get to mana break.
Same goes for RS vs BH. BH can score 20k+ Mega Slash crits and keep the combo going. And has an actual catching game unlike RS. And can kill Fire resist. Three stacks of burn hurts like hell and even ignores defenses.
CA….. can win matches by just standing there and using Stoic – Strong. No. Seriously. And if she actually fights back, chances are the only way you will win is through time out. You are not killing a CA that knows what s/he’s doing. IS has nothing that can compare to mana breaks doing damage + health recovery.
If you’re really that pissed off about an update to the point it makes you go berserk and have your flames being fanned, then I hate to break it to you, but uninstall the game if you’re going to get that mad about it. Alexias’ made very valid points but you refused to listen to reasoning, but what the heck, I’m not going to bother to reason with you since you seem to be having a temper tantrum of a 5 year old.
If you really think Elboy is weak, to be honest, he isn’t, you just don’t know how to play him, if you think you do, judging the comments I’ve read, they say otherwise.
I dun understand you Endgame. Do you WANT Elesis removed or do you want the Elboy removed? Because reading what you posted, it looks more like you want Elesis to stay and have Elboy removed.
Just add item restriction to pvp.
Well these nerfs are good and all,some of them but now MM users have a small way of getting mp,not for the people that have ancient guardian set and magic necklace.for the rest of the balances idk.its like kog balances cjaracters that dont need it and they keep op classes the same.idk kog idk
YAAS BM is getting better now :D
Nice >o.o> the EM need be nerfed by runners in pvp and decrease damege to Flying Kite(Ara), good balance in Elsword im use IS, only regret was that we removed the effect it had before shield swords, but is offset with the modification of Phantom Sword.
Nice…Nice….Nice ~)o.o)~
I LOVE THIS PATCH *o*
nooo My Giga Stream….
it’s harder to clear dungeon now… TT
Psychic Artillery…….. that is all
Long story short:
While the rebalance in overall is nice, the nerfing of VP is so stupid, I can’t even talk about it. Nerfing her for PvP-Only might be in place, but Dungeon? SERIOUSLY? She’s one of the absolutely weakest in there already…
That’s usually always the case. (but Dungeon? SERIOUSLY?) They can rebalance all they want, I stand firm in my belief that changing skill trees ruined the game anyway. Most people complaining about this ‘rebalance’ are pvpers who in fact whined for the rebalance that we’re looking at in the first place and these always seem to trickle over and ruin PvE for people that don’t even care about pvp….*sigh*
pvp ruins games alot of times.
Yes, people who whine are those who are in PVP only, I am a PVE player because I love dungeoning therefore mastermind is best for me, but I am fine with this nerf, THO, that MP gain c’mon…we need that ! But hey I can always manage ~ since mp pots…Casually PVP will be interesting though.
With the constant spamming of skills I don’t think MM users are gonna have that much of a problem with the extra mp gain as you probably won’t even manage to fill the mutation points in PVP.(And as you said, you have Mana Potions in Dungeons.) And pure PVE people would just have to adapt to the changes. Besides, think of it this way, more handicap means the game would be harder, and the harder the game, the more fun it is to clear it. It’s a challenge right in front of us.
HOW THE HELL IS THIS A BALANCE?! My poor poor EM Q^ Q”
You can get more mana and XZZ/XXZZ doesn’t contribute to knockdown, which means more skill spamming, which means more damage, and it also makes Memorize more useful, so it’s fine really~
omg this patch doa
hmmm kite nerf lel plasma nerf umm ok not ganna ask why? fire stimga LOL dark cloud oh no nerf i see RS gets buff mmmmmmmmmmm i guess ?what els wat els
i hate when Add always get nerf
suck
so they buff phantom sword duration and range and now increases crit… why they doesnt care about armageddon… even phanthom uses less mp and now will be more effective thar arma blade? thats not fair
I still stand by that KOG should follow what other companies do for pvp, have SEPERATE DAMAGE STATS FOR SKILLS IN PVE AND PVP, so that way, if you nerf a class in pvp, they wont be gimped in pve
KoG: BUT THAT REQUIRES WORK! JUST GIVE US MORE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Dear ‘stupid’ KOG,
If players whining about OP classes, they should have done another PVP revamp, not the classes itself. W\ell guess what? THERE ARE PVE players here, and I’m disappointed.
Well im agreed with u. There still ppl out there only pve. If ppl were complaining how op a class in pvp, they shud just adjust the pvp effect instead of nerf the whole skill which affect pve as well. From wat i’ve seen so far, the only reason KOG make character rebalance is only for pvp purpose. They don even care pve players. KOG: Elsword is too strong, ok we nerf Aisha. Thats how they doing their job. Believe me, they will later upgrade their skill again, then nerf again. Unlimited cycles.
I gotta agree with you on this. Not that i care much about PVP
I agree with ya
Man, I’m not hurt much by this patch. Except for the fact that they nerf Rushing Sword a bit too much. I was expecting the nerf anyway, but I didn’t expect KoG to nerf the damage from 652% down to 481%, that was almost 25%!!! This skill is the main source of damage for GM, so it hurt me quite a lot. T-T
At least can’t they give Waltz of Sword a bit damage buff for Rushing Sword? Like 10%, that would make 481 into about 520 which is kinda okay for me…….
And I don’t PvP by the way. Why do PvE players have to suffer a lot as well. Especially for the long range skill, poor Grand Archer. T T
The majority of players whining on aisha nerfs probs never used aisha right or played as the victim using underpowered classes. I’m sorry to say but I do agree some needs buffing, KOG you forgot to fix Aisha’s mana shield reducing Berserker blade. And any defense buff reduxing berserker blade.
Berserker Blade’s note makes it ignore specifically defense. It is not a glitch that damage reduction reduces the damage of noted Berserker Blade, because damage reduction is different from defense.
Also, other than the on-hit MK-3 5 piece effect, I don’t think anything that buffs defense exists anymore; it’s all buffs to damage reduction.
KOG did pretty much better in this balance compared to the past ones (o.o)b
I think they should prioritize fixing some bugs on certain characters especially for BMs like one flash hitstuns and wolf fang hitbox when used at point blank range. I also consider a revamped berserker blade where there is a slight launch or delay before KD so the core can still hit enemies. And I totally agree with the noted berserker blade being reduced by defensive buffs.
cries, why does DE’s dmg decreased for pvp
Cuz he is too OP
;_; If only Dw could get a slight buff.
The rebalance of blazing heart, fire stigma is so bad
if there is no debuff, it will useless
WHAT!? NO MP GAIN WHEN MUTATION POINTS ARE FULL!? ARE YOU CRAZY!? that was the thing that makes “MM” a good character… the thing that makes “MM” one of the best characters for me… with that, the players doesn’t worry about consuming MP… now you… you just did the worst thing that you could do to the “MM”… why?… WHYYYY!?
Yeah, I have a Lv. 75 MM and I’m really suffering… basically, MM only has dmg with skills and now he doesn’t have mana to spam… It’s being really hard to play with him now :/
Guys. This is KoG. There’s no balance at all. Deal with the truth. But I AM happy with Aisha’s nerf. She needs it.
O mai do I see a Elboy buff yas Kog yas. Awww~ poor Add got a little nerf no worry still got that :O Yas Kog put work on to BM. mmmm. EM got dat nerf *Yas YAS* I like THIS *WAITING*
O mai do I see a Elboy buff YAS KOG YAS ok 10%.wait what this do I see a Aisha nerf -wisherp- YAS Kog ur doing good ok 20%. what this Rena nerf Q~Q noooooooo! 25%. mmm I see a Raven buff ok Kog 30%. WAIT WAT THIS I see a CN buff but a CeM and CBS nerf qq ok u got dat cuz of the CN buff 40%. CHUNG NOOOOO! D: 35%. O mai I see Ara Flying Kite(Swallow Assault) mm ok 40%. WAIT HOLD THE PHONE this nerf O mai poor poor Elesis( DAT WAT U GET FOR LEAVEING UR BROTHER) 50%. Nooooo my Poor Add qq 45%. So Kog I give 45/100 on this re-Balance. ^ ^
Well i play aisha in NA and its kinda impossible to play without mana shield do to the many buffs in add and other players not pointing fingers nerfing her is somewhat arousing cosidering she has amazing play dont complain about mana shield when u can actually out put more damage than we can deal in skills a good combo without mana shield is death for aisha i should know i tried it alredy from a lvl 45 RF :D a lvl 45 rf vs aisha no mana shield death in lets put 30 secs? dont complain plz just learn how to play better ive seen players take out tanky aishas with full 400 mp or whateves that my friend is skills not complains to nerf a poor class thats a dying breed in pvp alredy so please ur welcomed to get some better skills or better gear eighther way i think ull do fine have a nice day mates
There is only one update that totally caught my eyes…..
Nasod Armor Mode – Transform
– Will not gain MP when Mutation Points are full
I guess the solution for pvp chicken MM is not bad. But i wish it can be changed more instead of a straight nerf.
For example instead of gaining a straight +10mp, give a 5-10 sec buff that gives increased mana regen like magic necklace for 10-20% when attacking and attacked perhaps?
that will give players the incentive to actually attack normally instead of running around.
interesting thing is BM’s sonic slash mana burns
Are there any of KOG’s “balance” team playing a fighting game like street fighter, king of fighter, guilty gear, blazblue ? U guys can learn a term of “balance” on those game…
Okay. Still hoping for a good re-balance for CN. :/ Way to go KOG! :/
I say ‘MM’ got nerfed too hard… I mean, the point is, MM can deal damage through spamming skills like DA, Flick Disk, then Delayed Explosion… and having no B-Slots makes it harder for him to have Install Skills for MP Gain and Low-MPcost High-Damage skills… and I don’t see why KoG had to nerf Phantom Seeker, after all, you can just Mana Break through the first one and not worry about the rest… ans that’s like his only awesome map sweeper. MM is known for his DF Mana Gain, I should say, and I think KoG should’ve not decreased New Update’s stacks… Man, I don’t know, I think I’ll switch to LP or DiE when this nerf patch gets applied
My point here is… MM sucks without his DF Mana Gain… At least give us some Increased Mana Regen like Aisha .__. I don’t even know what to say about MM now. All MM players are probably going to have a hard time PVPing. And why nerf his Mana Gain when you could’ve done so along with increasing his HP? Add has no chance against a BM/Rena (All classes) that know what they are doing, he is just so squishy that CA can kill him in less than 45 seconds, it’s disappointing… Now that MM has no DF Mana Gain, purple race will no longer rule Elrios.
…and yet they fix the trapping issue on CrA and they don’t do it for Quake Buster on Psychic Tracer…wtf…also what did they even do to Void Field…? I don’t get what they mean…
I like how they never consider giving Aisha actual movement speed. They just nerf her only source of ground breaking movement. I bet if they deleted teleport, increased her running speed and gave her some decent dash commands then no one would complain. It would also keep her from wasting a skill slot on teleport.
Also lol, people in the comments suggesting they nerf manashield further? I run 27% red on my Aisha and even when I put manashield up I still take a lot of damage. Aishas catch game isn’t as effortless as Add’s, so to compensate she needs to be more of a tank than him, deal with it. A lot of her moves are way easier to punish than his, and she depends on mp way more than he does to remain a threat.
the confusion on illusion strike was removed, icri, my eve mains will suffer.
actually, it’s betther that they dont have that debuff, using that skill is easy, and the debuff is so much trolling on PvP -.-
que bueno que ese parche ya llego al Elsword NA XD