Character |
Class |
Skill |
Detail |
Aisha |
Shared |
Teleport |
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High Magician |
Magic Missile |
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Elemental Master |
Elemental Body |
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Dark Magician |
Seal of Acceleration |
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Void Princess |
Shadow Body |
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Rena |
Shared |
All Arrows |
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Shared |
Siege Mode |
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Sniping Ranger |
Guide Arrow |
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Sniping Ranger |
Wind Ward |
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Raven |
Sword Taker |
Shock Wave – Divider |
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Blade Master |
Shock Wave – Cutter |
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Over Taker |
Burning Nasod Hand |
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Reckless Fist |
Exploding Nasod Hand |
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Weapon Taker |
Mental Crash |
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Chung |
Iron Paladin |
Strong Will |
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Iron Paladin |
Iron Howling |
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Iron Paladin |
Advanced Metabolism Boost |
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Deadly Chaser |
Intense Showtime |
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Tactical Trooper |
Commander’s Mark |
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Tactical Trooper |
Tactical Field – Endurance |
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Ara |
Little Specter |
Spell : Thunder |
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Little Specter |
Suppression: Ghost |
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Elesis |
Grand Master |
Skilled Knight |
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Add |
Add |
Neutron Bomb |
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Lunatic Psyker |
Conqueror |
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Lunatic Psyker |
Psychic Storm |
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Ark Tracer |
Psyonic Generator |
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Just waiting for the DiE nerfs. Maybe toss in some Elesis nerfs, just to piss off Endgame.
I WANT Elesis to get nerfed into the ground, dumbass. (Better yet, I want her removed from the game. But, well….. that’s just as likely as Elesis getting nerfed.)
Change your name. You are not a logical individual.
Considering your massive boner for Elesis, I on the contrary, make perfect, logical sense.
However, your mind can conjure up another feeble response if it wants. Your choice, really.
>dude hates on el-sister continually
>hurr durr he has a boner for her!
you fail at logic. did you just walk in from grade school…? because outside small children and that one family in the rune factory series, people don’t tend to say “I hate you and want you to die” when they mean “I want you to have my babies”.
You must not know who Endgame is then lmao.
Do you know what a, “Tsundere” is?
Endgame, aren’t you the one who said KOG hates Ara? Seems to be on the contrary…
I have been summoned.
Cool another bqlqnce update.
Cool. Another balance update.
Oh.
Goddamit. I wish there was an edit button for my clumsy typing.
well can’t be helped. instead of making DiE nerfed, they just nerfed conqueror. is that even a joke.
wonder why are they always biased with characters,
They killed shockwave.
Fuck you, KoG
Did somebody say Shockwave?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-ItfWY3xMQ
Doesn’t seem like these are simply for PvP (BM’s Shockwave… Rip).
Why can’t KOG ever learn that it’s okay to have skills act differently in PvP/PvE >_>
(Braindead BM… Rip).
*fixed
I don’t care whether or not a character/class is braindead in PvP. I just assumed that this “nerf” was to lower Shockwave’s effectiveness in PvP, leading me to further assume that KOG just doesn’t know that it is okay to have skills do something different in PvP or PvE but whatever, they’re just lazy. Iirc, the only skill that had a different effect in PvP/PvE is the Pandemonium skill that increases crit chance in PvE while confusing the opponent in PvP (may not be 100% on that so don’t quote me on it).
Either way, my hope was that they could separate skill effects, not complaining that a class was nerfed or not.
Oops, I meant “braindead in PvE”
What you don’t care, others may care.
What you care, others may not care.
Ignorance itself is a crime.
seriously, braindead? best skill for cleaning and bossing on entire class nerfed, and you just say: braindead? really? I know we can still spam one flash, I know we can now perfectly abuse things like armor crash and power assault, I know we can now use HSS without feeling the guilt of not grabbing bloody accel… but dude, seriously, relying on shockwaves is not being braindead, it’s just exploding the character most efficient skill… I would believe “braindead on PvP” cause, who even uses shockwave on pvp? but pve? I guess you are the braindead -even if just trolling
BM itself is not braindead but BM players who rely too much on Shockwaves and get enraged over the nerf. In other word, YOU.
kog` knows it’s okay. but they’ve openly stated in the past that they don’t want to have things behave differently between PVE and PVP because they don’t want their players to have to learn more than one set of behaviours. yes, you heard me. “we think our players are that stupid that they can’t handle learning that a skill behaves differently in PVP versus PVE”.
it’s up there with their openly stating that they do not “balance” based on performance but rather popularity. popular characters will be nerfed, unpopular ones will be buffed… regardless of how they actually handle.
and yet eve is continually pissed on, popular or not.
oh sorry dude, you must play ADD and just headbutt your board and instawin, someone said braindead? yeah, I believed so, the guy who tries to surpass endfail LOL
ciel marbas>chung siege> rena siege why nerf the only siege that need a wall to work T__T
WHERE IS THE NERF TO luciel ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
at least the was a nerf to some homing skil =O
LuCiel became really unplayed in KR because they became genuine shit with their nerfs.
Thats why you see no nerfs.
I’m surprised they didn’t nerf at least Gravity Buster on DiE since it’s a pretty fucking OP skill, i did 70k with it on my lvl 69 DiE with spar gear, a DiE did 140k on me with it.
LuCiel isn’t even as played as much as Add was after renewals. Rena (GA) also needed that nerf since her arrows were fucking broken, she could hit you right as a PvP match started RIGHT FROM HER SPAWN because of how far those arrows hit, not to mention they didn’t KD. After using Wind wall she could seige you and chip your HP like as if you were made of a wet noodle.
NB pretty much got a few nerfs too previously, they lost surge of souls and a few damage nerfs, not to mention Soul Extortion doesn’t always give souls either anymore.
DL lost their plague passive, idk how they proc Lord Of Terror anymore. They nerfed oblivion via no skill note. They also made Dark Crescent chain with fucking Ruinous but Ruinous KD’s before Dark Crescent hits making the entire chain fucking useless entirely. They also added KD to LuCiels X jumps, not to mention Ciel’s hitboxes are still notoriously bad and still can’t do a proper Z loop without being vulnerable 100% of the damn time. They also nerfed Oriax speed, as if you weren’t slow enough already. They nerfed Dark Crescent via removing the skill note. They did mini nerfs (not written on elwiki or babel) on a few other skills also via damage.
Add needed those nerfs too because LP could 1shot almost anything, i got hit with 229k damage from static field and i have 33% dmg reduction with +8~+9 Velder SD armor and a pain killer title. I also pulled off 70k uncrit on my lvl 75 LP with Quake Buster. Also MM was broken with Psionic Generator, here you go and watch this MM use it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54U25gfMKb0
please stop talking.
I’m not talking, i’m typing. Get it right. :)
He meant you need to stop your diatribes or text walls bemoaning Add’s powers. It is annoying to read.
You clearly dont know anything about NB or DL if you think they got nerfed in the slightest.
All of NB’s damage values were buffed. ALL OF THEM. Even for skills that cost less MP now (for example, Demonic Breath from 200 to 100 MP) they STILL got buffed relative to their cost. Me thinks you only saw the initial post-patch values and not the ninja buffs they added over the weekend after said patch. But even then, both DL and NB were better off than pre-revamp.
LuCiel didn’t BECOME underplayed due to the revamps. They always WERE underplayed. LuCiel simply isn’t popular in KR at all.
Shadow.
Calmdown
APPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
Yeah LuCiel become underplayed because of tons of revamps :V
Why kill off shockwave of all things? I expected more nerfs on Rena just because it’s KoG but that isn’t too harsh. The range and ability to just spam from one corner and cover a whole horizontal range in pvp was ridiculous and as a melee I had to spam stoic to even get close [Only to get caught in a wind wall if I didn’t move fast enough]
Thank god for Neutron Nerf on that stupid range….
In KR.
Another char user hate BM shockwave(because too fast).. So they suggestion this.
But KOG nerf shockwave dmg… This is wrong balance patch for BM and another char.
I laugh, but laugh with hate, at BM’s shockwaves nerf, while on the other hand, MM’s panzer buster got rid of it’s damage reduction on distance increase… da heck?
KOG love purple char(add,aisha).
In KR pvp top 100 user 2nd job..
DE 45 EM 19 people.. What the..
DE’s skill gravity buster dmg 80000(+9)~150000(+12) in pvp
finaly, teleport as nerfed(or balanced)
its a dream *-*
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA I CANT EVEN
NERF ARA AND ELESIS PLS KOG!!!
And revive my Deadly Chaser again…
Wow about time they nerf conqueror, that shit was ridiculous.
Where’s the IP guard nerf though.
Finally conquerer got nerfed. Now to see it in action.
i’m amazed they didn’t touch too much on elesis and ara….
and they didn’t touch DW or ANY EVE at all!
but this is balance wave 1 so, who knows
This list is pleasing to the eyes except for the BM shockwave nerf.
He’s not even a top-tier PVE class and shockwave is probably his best mob clearing skill which is useful for speed runs and such.
This is just the 1st “rebalancing” so I expect more.
-Aisha got nothing but nerfs.
-GA got nerfed, but WS and NW weren’t touched outside of universal Rena nerfs.
-Elesis got another buff in disguise as a nerf. (“Chance lowered” to distract people from the fact that it was buffed. Just like Condemnation was “nerfed” when they removed the Stoic – Strong MP cost reduction but buffed the damage the activation does, with that aspect being the core reason it is extremely broken and CA an overpowered easymode class.)
Business as usual at KOG…..
…..But hey, they left Code Nemesis alone! A small victory.
Doesn’t matter if it doesn’t proc.
dude you really need a life if you have to bring up elesis in everything
you say that like kog` didn’t bring her up in the first place.
that was the worst reply ive seen….
oh shut up, want to argue about something? KOG continously limiting raven to pure pvp
Elboy got nothing? Interesting
IP is very balanced yet KoG keep touching his kits.
KoG fix other characters rather focusing an untouchable character that has heavy counters and stoic
they just reduced it’s OP MP gains so it was balanced, nothing more, nothing less
they should have nerfed him even more instead of messing up BM shockwaves
I wonder if Luciel will ever recieve an actual nerf.
AHAHAH
why did I even expect anything good for Aisha
KOG could care less about DW
apparently they didn’t care which is why she was untouched….
yeah they nerf teleport again, but that’s universal, not class specific
I lost sight of whst KoG was trying to accomplish.
You know who else lost sight of what KOG was trying to accomplish?
KOG.
Their functioning members of the team got kicked and bacame naddic. Why do you expect more from a team of autistic remnants ?
>kill the range of the ranger’s ranged attack
kog` once again demonstrates they don’t have a clue what they’re doing.
and you can say BUT PVP!
and I will respond “then it could have been a PVP-only change”, because it’s not like they didn’t do other things to PVP only – see: “made teleport’s cooldown even longer in PVP” above.
and at this point I shudder to imagine what other nerfs they performed on various characters/classes without listing it in the patch notes. they’ve been sneaky before and there’s nothing to stop them from continuing it.
I do wonder, too. they added el-sister the superior swordie when they pissed off their players and nearly killed the game last time with the “cut off one arm or the other arm” skill “tree” system… what are they going to do next time they manage to piss off the .kr playerbase? how will they PPPPPPPBPBPBPBPBLEEEEEEZE DON’T QUIT! next? ’cause one little thing or another, or maybe another big thing… it’s gonna happen. I have great difficulty believing their main audience is totally pleased with everything that’s been done.
Are you fucking kidding me
They made teleport cooldown 4 seconds
ARE YOU FUCKING REAL.
I know rite? Unbelievable
ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME? TELEPORT CD IS 4 SECONDS @@
SO MUCH FOR NOTHING, KOG ._.
Fucking seriously?
So….. what is Aisha supposed to do now? She has no offensive catching game, only a defensive one. (Well, VP had one when gravity balls could be used to catch. Buuuuuut…..) Hence, why she was given Teleport to get away when she doesn’t have the MP to do anything. It’s how she was designed. (Much to the dismay to bad players, even Aishas, who cry “runner”.)
Ugh, between this and the removal of Mana Shield, DW is worse off than LK now. Especially when DW’s only real source of PVP damage is RNG based…..
They just killed the character, 4 seconds is just way too much characters like IP will just punish you guaranteed after you teleport.
This nerf is ground breaking for Aisha nerfing a character that is already weak overall, now nerfing her already bad movement.
Zzzz
I’m really pissed right now
teleport nerf is really BS….
sure you can get past it a bit if you teleport a smart way (like jumping then teleporting to a higher platform), but why are they nerfing it when it’s already nerfed enough?
once again, KOG logic.
also, DW escaped class specific nerfs right now, but I bet she’s hit next time…
lmao get rekt kid….now I will fuck aisha with my main DiE. HAHAHAHAHAHA
cuz I am a child retarded Tokyo Ghoul fan true weeaboo lover of add laughters.. psssh… nothin personnel… aisha fuckslut. hihihih hahahaha
OKAY, I can understand the cutter nerf, its slighty justified by the fact that almost every lane cleaner received this treatment, but divider?! WHY DIVIDER!? I was quite sure it’s a bossing skill, and it’s more… oh wait… it was more effective if you used it from a distance in most situations.
Thank you KoG
cause BM is a nigga condemned to the pvp ranks… well balanced all around character that only downside is that needs a bit of skill? nope, let’s make him an easy combo dude shitting on all guys who tried to master hime, let’s take off his tankiness from him and give it to his already OP brother RF, give him more crits so people think he dishes out OP damage… and then let’s just fck up his most prominent PvE tool because who cares?
so true…
Well, looking at recent PvP vids, they left the free season mods on…. for S4!
RIP PvP…. cause it’s the return of S1’s damage
Mas nerfs a teleport ??’ jodanse los de kog aisha estaba bastante cagada con este revamp.. sobre todo VP y y ahora me la joden mas todavia … pero claro a elesis o ara ni las tocan …
In other news, KOG’s fourth game Aima Online just released! Anyone with a Nexon KR account that can play KR Elesis Online can also play Aima!
…..And zero fucks were given. Should have just kept on supporting Grand Chase, because this game’s destined to flop! Possibly faster than Fighters Club! (KOG’s third game.)
PS. No one’s going to publish Ultimate Race, KOG. May as well stop wasting money developing that.
knowing what they did to GC, what they’re doing to els, how shitty of an idea ultimate race seems like, and how fighters club went…..
why is KOG trying again? when els flops, watch all the players go to closers…. more and more already head towards DFO….
this is the ONE time I fully agree with you
hell, another one called blast breaker seems to look really decent and it seems to play like els….
I bet that one will end up better off than this game with how KOG is consistently fucking up things
closers my ass, DFO looks way better, els is going downright retard, to call it dead isn’t quite correct, no, it’s a living rotting carcass of a game; thank you KoG, I hope you choke on my cash
RIP shockwave cutter..
Dmg 324%
But this patch…
1/3distance 324% next 1/3 distance 210%.. Last 1/3 100% dmg..
Troll skill now..
BM: back to useless pve class, GG
I sure am glad they nerfed shockwave. It’s a good thing there aren’t vastly better field clearers out there otherwise PvE might be too easy! Oh wait.
Apparently me not posting at all means tons of people thinking they can act like they know everything! I mean seriously, I can’t even go ONE Patch Notes without seeing a ton of BS!
HAS THE HUMAN RACE REALLY BECOME SO STUPID?!?!
KOg just started the chain reaction, maybe they should start a nuclear reactor instead of developing games.
don’t take it all to yourself, this is what happens when everyone thinks they have the right opinion
So basically parents failing to tell their kids that opinions are never facts or lies and that facts and lies are never opinions.
Not even one week since you said you were leaving, and you are already back. :/
Ditch the inflated ego. No one even cared you were gone dear.
Actually things have gotten WORSE since I said I was going to leave.
Too many people trying to claim opinion as fact.
No one did ask for your useless help nor return.. elitist self-proclaimed expert
Elitist?! What the heck, dude?!
All I’m saying it that too many people are trying to claim their own opinions are fact! I don’t mind if someone’s opinion is different from mine, BUT I HATE IT WHEN THEY TRY TO ACT LIKE EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS THE TRUTH!
Kr pvp top 100 ranker 2nd job.
LK 2
RS 0
IS 0
EM 15
VP 4
DW 1
GA1
WS 7
NW 1
BM 0
RF 2
VC 1
CN 2
CEM 0
CBS 0
IP 2
DC 0
TT 0
SD 3
YR 1
Asura 1
GM 5
BH 0
CA 0
LP 2
MM 0
DE 45
DL 2
NB 1
…Fuxxing balance.
In no skill land, the faceroll class is king.
…..It’s sad so many people are apparently struggling against EMs after she got nerfed into the ground. It’s 2015. Do people STILL not know how to fight EM? Well, good going guys. EM’s going to get another round of nerfs because of this.
DE? Oh no. KOG’s not THAT stupid. They know they can’t nerf Add. He’s too popular with the demographic of people too stupid to leave Elsword for a better game. But nerfing him might give them some incentive…..
Yeah.. But EM did not dead.
He get 5mp during 1sec.( 2Passive get 4mp during 1sec)
Chain lightning(?) want 60 mp(special option).
She’s new command really crazy.
Super armor and powerful damage.
DE’ skill gravity buster..
If your weapon is +9, that skill damage over 80000.
Sorry.
second sentence
He☞She
win/loss ratios will be better for proving balance