Transcendence Shared Passive
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
| Specialization(Lv. 80) | Passive | Specializes physical abilities even more<Current level>
Phy/Mag attack increase: +10% Phy/Mag defense increase: +10% Base HP increase: +10% |
Elesis
Grand Master
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Cross Slash | Special Active: Power
MP 100 CD 8 |
Quickly slashes widely forwards 2 times
Gale Skill
<Current level> Swing(Physical) : 247% multi hit |
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Upper Slash | Active
MP 25 CD 4 |
Kicks the ground to cut upwards.(Can be used in air)
Gale Skill
<Current level> Uppercut(Physical): 427% x2 |
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Divine Blade | Special Active: Power
MP 200 CD 15 |
Summons Sword of Victory and stabs it downwards.
Annihilation Skill <Current level> Explosion(Physical) : 321% Multi hit |
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Liberated Will: Grand Master | Passive | As vanguard of the battlefield, overwhelms enemies with the dignity of red knights captain. Of there’s no enemies nearby and while dashing, movement speed greatly increases and all physical abilities increase in 1:1 confrontation.
<Current level> [Overwhelm] – Of there’s no enemies nearby and while dashing, movement speed increase: : 30% (cancelled if hit) – If there’s only 1 enemy entity nearby: – Critical Increase: 10% – Maximize Increase : 10% – Attack Speed Increase : 10% |
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Dignity of Knights Captain | Passive | Enhances power to lead masses and allies.
All damage increases and gives portion of the increase to party members. More courageous battle becomes possible through enhanced Sword of Victory and War Prelude.
<Current level> [Command] – Enhanced damage/crit/max/additional damage for self and party members – Self : 6% each – Party member : 4% each(max 4 stack)
[Skill of Knights Captain] – Sword of Victory : All hits ignore guard and damage reduction stat – War Prelude : Can be used in air |
Blazing Heart
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Burst Rising | Special Active
: Power
MP 100 CD 8 |
Summons multiple blades from the ground using magic to strike surrounding enemies.
Gale Skill
<Current level> Flame sword(magic) : 401% Multi hit |
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Flame Protection | Active
MP 30 CD 5 |
Emit flame energy and surround the body with it for certain period of time to enhance self. Magical damage and defense increases during Flame Energy duration.
Annihilation Skill Flame Explosion(Magic) : 911% Flame Shield : Magic damage, magic defense +10%(10s) |
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Ignis Crasher | Special Active: Power
MP 200 CD 15 |
Fires countless explosive fire orbs towards the ground(Can only be used in air)
Gale Skill
<Current level> Fire orb explosion(magic) : 174% multi hit |
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Liberated Will: Blazing Heart | Passive | Enhances self by increasing knowledge and resistance to fire.
When hitting targets that are burning with command/actives, certain chance of ignoring enemy’s guard/defense/red damage stats. Adds portion of fire resistance into magical attack stat..
<Current level> [Knowledge about fire] – Guard/Defense/Damage reduction ignore when attacking targets with burning type debuffs : 15% – Magic attack increase in relation to fire resistance: x3 |
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Lord of Flame | Passive | Awakens to true flames and brings out power of flames to it’s limit
Explosive Fist, Sword Fire, Avatar of Fire, Eternal Fire, Blaze Wing, Fire Wall skills get enhanced.
<Current level> [Flame Lord] – Explosive Fist : KD decrease by 1.5 per flame hits – Sword Fire : Affected by attack speed, ignores guard. – Avatar of Fire : Additional Cast damage 721%(Magic) – Eternal Fire: Affected by attack speed, ignores guard – Blaze Wing: Initial hit burns 10 MP – Fire Wall: Each hit decreased target’s MP and KD by 3 |
Crimson Avenger
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Chasing Sword | Special Active: Power
MP 80 CD 8 |
Push target away using dark sword that shaves off enemy then performs a powerful stab.
Gale Skill
<Current level> Push(Physical) : 202% x4 Stab(Phyiscal) : 1613% |
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Blood Sting | Active
MP 30 CD 15 |
Instantly stab then pull to cause [Bleeding] status
Gale Skill
<Current level> Stab(Physical) : 612% Pull(Physical) : 612% Bleeding : 5s |
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Shade | Special Active: Power
MP 200 CD 15 |
Creates dark demonic energy storm around the area to strike repeatedly
Annihilation Skill
<Current level> Dark storm(Physical) : 367% multi hit |
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Liberated Will: Crimson Avenger | Passive | If Chivalry activates while in low HP, Stats related to damage increases greatly. Avenger’s instinct activates if there’s more enemies nearby and gains various abilities
<Current level> [Knight of Darkness] – Activates when Chivalry activates while HP is 50% or below [Annihilation] – Physical Damage: +10% – Critical: +10% – Maximize: +10% – Additional Damage: +10% [Gale] – Physical Damage: +10% – All Speed: +10% – MP gain rate for Hit/Getting hit: +15% – Reflects Magic Projectiles
[Avenger] – Activates when there’s 1 or more enemies nearby. (Stacks per 1 entity, max stack 5) – Critical Damage: +5% – HP absorption for normal/active attacks: 3% – Wind/Dark attribute proc chance: +10% |
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Madness | Passive | While in certain state, forgets pain and entrusts self to rage.
Chivalry gain rate increases when HP is below certain point. Gain various buffs during Iron Body-Strong, Brutal Cutter, Shade the Illusion
<Current level> [Madness] – While below 30% HP, Chivalry gauge gain rate x2 – Iron Body-Strong: Damage Reduction Stat increased by 20%, immune to various helpless debuffs – Brutal Cutter: All defense decreases by 10%, all damage increased by 20% – Shade the Illusion: Critical Damage Increased by 15% |
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Lunatic Psyker
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Pion Rushing | Special Active: Power
MP 100 DP 30 CD 15 |
Instantly causes explosion during energy flow to strike 3 times while in Dynamo Config state.
DP Consume Skill – Doesn’t consume DP while awakened
Uses MtP when Awakened – Uses 1 – 10% Damage increase per MtP (Can still use skill without MtP)
Nasod Armor Command Chainable
<Current level> Energy Explosion Punch(Magic): 521% Multi hit |
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Dynamo Configuration -Spear | Active
MP 30 DP 10 CD 6 |
Opens up magnetic field to strike then fires projectile(Pierces 2 time)
Gain 1 MtP upon successful hit Projectile gets enhances depending on Nasod Armor mode state and pierces all targets when using in awakening
DP Consume Skill – Doesn’t consume DP while awakened Magnetic Field(Magic) : 1064% |
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Quicksliver Strike | Special Active
: Power
MP 150 DP 40 CD 19 |
Emit magnetic field forward to lift enemy up then strike repeatedly using Nasod Armor Combo
DP Consume Skill – Doesn’t consume DP while awakened
Uses MtP when Awakened – Uses 3 – 5% damage increase per 1 MtP (Can still use without MtP)
Nasod Armor Command Chainable
<Current level> Magnetic Field(Magic) : 1856% Nasod Armor Combo hits(Magic) 62% Nasod Armor Combo explosion(Magic): 131% Shockwave(Magic) : 1114% |
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Liberated Will: Lunatic Psyker | Passive | Enhances Physical ability through Dynamo state
<Current level> Dynamo Dissolve Mode(Unawakened) – All speed: +10% – DP gain rate when hitting/being hit: +10%
Dynamo Configuration Mode(Awakened) – Critical Chance: +10% – Critical Damage: +10% – Maximize: +10% – All Element Resist: +100 |
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Energy Amplification | Passive | Enhances [Nasod Armor Mode-Battle Gear] to amplify Nasod Armor combos and expulsion skills. All hits of Nasod Armor combo ignores guard and has certain chance of activating as critical
<Current level> Energy Amplification – [Nasod Armor Combo] : +15% Crit – [Void Breaker] : Fires additional 50% smaller and 25% weaker projectile – [Quake Buster] : Additional effect to nullify enemies (7s) – [Pulse Cannon] : Ignores Guard and MP cost (DP cost when awk) for additional hit decreased by 5. – [Conqueror] : Upon successful hit while not awakened, 15% chance of gaining 1 MtP – [EMP Shock] : EMP storm’s outer radius increased by 25% |
Mastermind
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Install -Charged Impulser | Special Active
: Power MP 30 CD 10 |
Switches/Activates Dynamo Factory [Charged Impulser] mode. Maintained for certain time period upon activation and periodically creates drones that generates black holes. Drones get destroyed when they run out of HP or time and explodes. Explosion damage and radius increases depending on how long the drones remained.
DP Consume Skill – Doesn’t consume DP while awakened
Dynamo Factory Mode – Consumes 30 DP upon activation – Gain 1 MtP upon switching – Consumes 100 MP upon activating [Charged Impulser] – Factory Mode Duration: 30s
Uses MtP when Awakened – Uses 1 – Black hole generation interval decreased by 50% per 1 MtP (Can still use skill without MtP)
<Current level> Explosion Damage(Physical): 358% x duration of summoned drone(seconds) Explosion Radius: Increases depending on how long the drone lasted |
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Dynamo Configuration -Aiming Nova | Active
MP 35 DP 10 CD 5 |
Activates Dynamso in a arch shape to deal damage(Can be used in air)
Can charge up by holding skill key to create powerful chill that will cause damage over time and slow target’s attack speed.
Drone Activator chain – When lock on target is created using ‘Drone Activator’ skill, [Aiming Nova] is cast towards Lock on target. – 1.2x damage upon casting
Uses MtP when Awakened – When charging skill by pressing skill key for 1 second, uses 1 MtP and causes 3 second of [Sheer Cold] debuff (Can still use skill without MtP)
<Current level> Dynamo Activation(Phyiscal): 992% |
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Force Field | Special Active:Power
MP 200 CD 15 |
Cody Dynamo dummy to create special magnetic field in the area. With the field, damage,MP gain rate for hitting and being hit, awakening charge of all self and allies increases. MP cost and cooldown time dreases for using [Dynamo Configuration] skills.
DP recovery skill – Recovers 40 DP when casting – Doesn’t recover DP when awakened
Uses MtP when Awakened – Uses 1 MtP to increase field duration by 100%. (Can still use skill without point)
<Current level> Emit Dynamo Dummy(Physical): 2366% Force Field – Physical,Magical damage: +10% – MP gain rate for hitting/being hit: +30% – Awakening charge(DP charge) speed: +30% – MP and Cooldown reduction when using Dynamo Configuration skills: 50% – Effect duration: 60s |
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Liberated Will: Mastermind | Passive | When Switching Dynamo Factory Mode, certain chance of gaining MtP. Through Enhanced [Nasod Armor-Transform], goes into Overflow state when using [Special Active] skills
<Current level> When switching Factory Mode: – Chance to gain MtP : 15%
Overflow – MP cost of Install skills decreased by 10%, maximum 3 stacks(Max 30% decrease) – When using Dynamo Config skills, 15% chance of gaining 1 MtP – When consuming MtP, 15% chance of not using MtP – Overflow duration: 20s |
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Enhanced Artificial Intelligence | Passive | Enhances Drone Activator and other tracking skill AI
<Current level> Drone Activator Enhancement – DP cost for Factory Mode decreased by 20 – Unlimited Factory mode duration – Marker Duration increased by 20%
AI Enhancement – [Dynamo Config – Flick Disk] : Ignores Guard and increased maximum hit by 1 – [Phantom Seeker] : Drone hit speed increased by 50% – [Install – Starfall] : If there’s target with active drone activator, pressing skill key with focus fire on the target. – [Install – Ultimate Fury] : 20% faster hit speed – [Install – Shooting Chaser] : Psyonic shock does weak hitstun every 1.5 seconds |
Diabolic Esper
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Void Impact | Special Active: Power
MP 100 CD 8 |
Amplifies energy of closest entity to generate an alternate space to tear them apart. Shard of alternate space remains in the area of Void Impact to impede enemy’s movements. (Shard remains for 5 seconds)
Overlimit – Consumes DP when awakened recovers 10% of DP consumed to MP – Consumes MP when unawkakened recovers 10% of MP consumed to DP
Nasod Armor Command Chainable
<Current level> Alternate Space(Magic) : 352% ×5 |
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Dynamo Configuration -Reverse Field | Active
MP 15 CD 5 |
Activates Dynamo in an arch shape to reverse gravity
Reverse Gravitational Field – Maintains Gravitational Field in a super armor state while holding skill key – Consumes 5MP per additional hits (Max 30)
Uses MtP when Awakened – Uses 1 MtP – Consumes MtP to decrease Reverse Gravitational Field hit interval to 0.33s (Can still use skill without MtP)
<Current level> Gravitational Field(Magic) : 290% Reverse Gravitational Field(Magic) : 290% multi hit |
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Moonlight Breaker | Special Active: Power
MP 200 CD 16 |
Fixes spacetime coordinate then tears space apart. Can adjust angle with ↑↓ keys while holding skill key
Overlimit – Consumes DP when awakened recovers 10% of DP consumed to MP – Consumes MP when unawkakened recovers 10% of MP consumed to DP
Uses MtP when Awakened – Uses up to 2 maximum MtP – When using 1 MtP, ignores Guard – When using 2 MtP, 10% damage increase (Can still use skill without MtP)
<Current level> Shockwave(Magic) : 1368% Space destruction(Magic) : 456% multi hit |
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Liberated Will: Diabolic Esper | Passive | Directly and indirectly influences spacetime to increase various physical abilities and overlimit ability
<Current level> Physical Enhancement – Additional Crit&Crit damage : 10% – Additional Max : 10%
Overlimit Enhancement – While Awakened, using skills applied with Overlimit, chance of gaining MtP: 15% – While Unawakened, when using Space [Teleport], chance of not consuming MtP: 15% |
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Time Trouble | Passive | Directly interfere with timespace to greatly enhance related skills
<Current level> Time Trouble – [Space Distortion] : Ignores Guard – [Reverse Circle] : Consumes 1 MtP and added 0.5s [stun] – [Mind Break] : If used again on targets affected by Mind Break, ignores guard and defense – [Maximum Strike] : Ignores Guard – [Void Field] : Restraint time increased by 50% – [Moonlight Rhapsody] : When using MtP, stacking period increased from 33% -> 50% – [Reverse Stigma] : [Recall] Burns 30 MP |
Lu&Ciel
Dreadlord
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Fear Tomorrow | Special Active: Power
MP 100 CD 10 |
Gathers dark energy to cause explosion within area
Switching Skill(Ciel) – Gain 2 Combination Gauge upon switching
<Current level> Demonic energy(Physical) : 1070% Demonic energy explosion(Physical) : 311% |
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Bluff | Active
MP 20 CD 4 |
Hits enemy to make then show their back. If they are already showing their back then make then show their front. Does 2x damage on super armor targets.
<Current level> Forward strike(Physical) : 730% |
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Dead Cross | Special Active
: Power MP 200 CD 17 |
Giant Dark Demon beast appears to sweep across the area.
Switching Skill(Lu) – Gain 4 Combination Gauge upon switching
<Current level> Demon beast summon(Physical): 2320% Sweep(Physical) : 359% x4 |
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Liberated Will: Dreadlord | Passive | When Combination Gauge is lower than 5, cost of standby character’s skills decreases and physical abilities are increased
<Current level> Standby character skill cost decrease: MP -20% Crit : +10% Max : +10% Dark Resist : +100 Light Resist : -100 Dark Proc : +5% Light Proc : +5% |
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Power of the Throne | Passive | During Power state, Chance of Apollyon appearing as Dark Beast state increases. if Dark Beast state doesn’t appear, certain chance of getting Switching Point and Cooldown time accelerating. (Except HA/Wedding)
<Current level> Dark Beast appearance chance: 50% Switching Point increase/Cooldown reduction chance: 50% Switching Point increase :2 Skill Cooldown reduction : 20% |
Noblesse
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Soul Reaping | Special Active: Power
MP 100 CD 10 |
Create Magic Circle around self to trap enemy and hit repeatedly
Switching Skill(Lu) – Gain 2 Combination Gauge upon switching
<Current level> Shockwave(Magic) : 1063% Soul summon(Magic) : 334% x3 |
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Soul Spread | Active
MP 40 CD 6 |
Convert all collected souls to homing souls and fires them all at once(Fires 3 if there’s no collected soul. Fires up to 8 maximum)
<Current level> Soul expulsion(Magic) : 514% x3 Additional projectile if there’s [Collected soul(Max 5) |
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Magdonic Cannon | Special Active
: Power 200 MP CD 16
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Fires giant cannonball filled with soul forwards. Causes explosions at the enemy equal to amount of souls gathered in the cannonball. (Can be used in air)
Switching Skill (Ciel) – Gain 4 Combination Gauge upon switching
<Current level> Explosion(Magic) : 758% Soul Expulsion(Magic) : 36% Multi hit |
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Liberated Will: Noblesse | Passive | When Combination Gauge is lower than 5, cost of standby character’s skills decreases and physical abilities are increased
<Current level> Standby character skill cost decrease: MP -20% Crit : +10% Max : +10% Dark Resist : +100 Light Resist : -100 Dark Proc : +5% Light Proc : +5% |
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Noblesse Oblige | Passive | Shadow Bolt’s spear amount increases. Removing debuff using sacrifice recovers MP and Switching Point per debuff<Current level>
Spear amount increase : 6 Switching Point increase : 1 MP gain : 20 |
Demonio
| Skill Name |
Skill Info |
Description | |
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Abyss Sniping | Special Active: Power
MP 100 8s |
Snipe closest enemy within forward arch. Demonic bullet pierces through all targets and applies [Judgment] effect
Switching Skill(Ciel) – Gains 2 Combination Gauge when Switching
<Current level> Magic Bullet Sniping(Physical): 2139% Judgment duration : 2s |
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Rapid Fury | Active
MP 45 CD 6 |
Gather demonic energy to strike enemy in front. Using it as [Lu] will make her pierce through all enemies, using it as [Ciel] will make him fire a shot that pierces through all enemies. Hit targets get their knockdown count reduced.
<Current level> [Lu] – Charge(Physical) : 1167%
[Ciel] – Snipe(Physical) : 1167% KD reduction : 2 |
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Demonic Rush | Special Active: Power
MP 200 CD 17 |
Swiftly strike repeatedly then jump to up stomp down with demonic energy orb.
Switching Skill(Lu) – Gain 4 Combination Gauge upon switching
<Current level> Rush(Physical) : 468% x4 Demonic orb explosion(Physical) : 327% x4 |
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Liberated Will: Demonio | Passive | When Combination Gauge is lower than 5, cost of standby character’s skills decreases and physical abilities are increased
<Current level> Standby character skill cost decrease: MP -20% Crit : +10% Max : +10% Dark Resist : +100 Light Resist : -100 Dark Proc : +5% Light Proc : +5% |
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Stable Demonic Energy | Passive | Stabilizes the enhanced demonic energy using a contract to enable using the power effectively without recoils. Phantom Rush, Sinister Mind, Punisher skills get enhanced. Stablized Demonic energy increases all speeds during [Madness mode]
<Current level> [Phantom Rush] – Can use [Rush] while being hit [Sinister Mind] – 15%+ Range – Can be used in air [Punisher] [Demonic explosion] explosion duration decrease: 1s |
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Time to wait for Endgame to bitch about Elesis eh?
Why bitch about sombody dat ain’t not even close to be broken as Raven?
Except she is more broken.
GrM’s new 100mp does 494% for 100mp, that is beyond awful.
Just because she slashes twice doesn’t mean the skill will only hit twice.
Case in point: LK’s similar skill that can get up to 10 hits.
It’s basically air slash, you know that one skill that no one used on GrM….it’s back.
this long ass argument with endgame… wow..
we all know endgame is a dumbass that doesn’t know what the fuck goes on cause he quit long ago…
just let him wallow in his own world until he’s finally out of our hair
I put that comment in the wrong spot, but you’ll see what I mean
Did Flare Kyn transfer his longing for Endgame’s dick to you? :/
It does 6-8 hits tho, do your research :(
no, cause you’re too busy sucking endgame’s dick lucky
Lol Elesis will never be as strongh as Raven KOG gives Raven what he deserv naw
Except she’s much stronger than Raven.
Raven was never overpowered. EVER.
Let me guess, you’re still bitching about his core too, aren’t you? Still haven’t learned how to exploit that core shield? Ha.
never overpowered…. ok time to write this off already
I’m sorry to hear that you suck at Elsword, facedesk.
But it’s true. Raven has never been overpowered.
You know how you can write off most of the Elbrat and Raven bitching? Because most of the bitching began when they first got WotS and Core, which didn’t do shit for them. All they did was give the people that were already losing to them a new excuse to cry about instead of accept that they suck and that they need to improve.
…..And that’s the mindset that holds you people back.
Endgame, you’re retarded if you think Elsword and Raven were never overpowered. LOL
pushed back into insults when your opinion is ignored due to lack of anything in your statement, you seem to have no idea what actually goes on besides what you choose to read
its just funny you call everyone idiots when they dont agree and yet a lot of them have a better understanding of the game overall besides whats seen on paper
Don’t give me that “pushed into insults” bullshit when you’re not even bothering to defend your stance but instead focusing on me calling you stupid because you are, in fact, stupid. While giving The Truth a free pass because he’s on your side.
Well, it’s clear to see Elsword isn’t the only thing you suck at…..
well actually i dont need to do much besides remind you of VC’s and RF’s one shotting not too long ago. (cbf pulling all of ravens history) and if i wasnt defending my stance why would you have to revert to insulting then? did i upset you because i didnt agree with what you said?
uhh why would i argue with the truth if i have nothing to argue about? lmfao
@Endgame
Citations needed
Shut the fuck up unless you’re going to call everyone else out for their lack of citations. Facedesk isn’t citing anything he’s saying neither.
And Facedesk….. everyone has +12 weapons on KR now. Raven one shotting others merely puts him on par with everyone else. As long as he and Elbrat continue to have shitty catching games, they will forever not be overpowered.
“Raven was never overpowered” is true, but after renewal sh*t hit the fan, Raven is now broken beyond repair, is stupidly overpowered now, he can one shot almost anything now even without a proper gear.
“Uuuh rab3n so b0dken”
>classic rat kid
>mains add
>started playing after ara’s reléase
>blames kog and other players for his lack of fingers
“Shut the fuck up unless you’re going to call everyone else out for their lack of citations. Facedesk isn’t citing anything he’s saying neither.”
Oh yeah? Have you played Elsword recently?
I think you know the answer to that Tangelos
He’s right tho, Raven was never OP but VC, BM, and RF is beyond OP. Elesis? If u have skills, u’ll be God but if u have them same skills, u are Chuck Norris. Free KFC 1-shot, Free punch from weaker ver of One pucnh man (cuz RF have hair) and sapmming + Endless combo. Now what do Elesis have that make u say Elesis is weaker than Raven. ANSWER US
*same skills with Raven
That he’s gonna be over defensive, whine and curse like 13 year old, keep making claims without evidence, tell everyone that they suck at the game, and call everyone retard who disagrees with him.
Funny that he is so sure with his arguments that he won’t put up at least some evidence to back it up.
So where’s YOUR evidence that I’m wrong, you little hypocrite? No one ever provides any real evidence in Babel arguments but you’re singling me out. So you can just kindly shut the fuck up.
Going with me not having played the game lately? That’s a shitty thing to go with. I could instantly take your pathetic little argument away if I saw fit…..
But no. A shit stain like you isn’t even worth acknowledgement.
experience and knowledge vs knowledge from paper
I never said you were wrong. You could be right about Elboy and Raven or whatever. But you still haven’t provided any proof just like the the people who disagrees with you.
So are you gonna prove that they’re wrong by bringing up some evidence or are you still gonna procrastinate and continue playing victim while lashing insults.
experience and knowledge vs knowledge from paper
More like experience and knowledge vs a complete lack of brain functionality.
…..You guys are the ones lacking brain functionality. Not once have you people put forth anything resembling a valid argument as to how me quitting the game two years ago is at all relevant. The game has not fundamentally changed at all since then. All the “new” characters since then are just already existing skills and combos repackaged since KOG is lazy as fuck.
And on top of that, while most of you probably haven’t even heard the game before the NA version launched, I was already playing the TW version for a year. And even then I played some of KR through guest accounts before TW. There were certain things that were already updated when the NA version launched. (NA only ever had nerfed versions of King Nasod and Berthe. And never even got the original 5 stage Ruben.) I know the game’s history better than you gits.
And what did I do while on NA? Oh, right. My DW had the full Darkened Wyvern accessory set, Sword of Splendor and the full Absolute set at +8 when the level cap was 60, and then I got Reaper and the 70 Henir weapon at 70. And that was just my main character. I also grinded my VP up to 60 back when NA had highly inflated EXP tables.
So don’t you dare tell me I have no experience with the game, little Facedesk.
And yes, my DW has beaten plenty of Elbrats and Ravens. They have never been overpowered. Stop making excuses for yourself.
But you never experienced the new updates.
newer updates*
hahaha dude your the one without experience anymore, good job you insulted yourself
woh thats a really long time…. after everything thats happened you still think everything is the same? hahaha this joke, i love this
“me quitting the game two years ago”
It’s this. This is why I don’t fully believe in your arguments and wanted citations. And I believe this is what people meant by no experience. You never experienced fighting Elboys and Ravens in the newer changes during your 2 years of quitting. Not because you don’t have experience in general.
Like I said before I never said you we’re wrong and you could be right but there needs to be evidence to back that up.
So I’m gonna ask again. Are you gonna bring up some evidence to back up your arguments and prove that they’re wrong or not?
Endgame keeps saying how knowledgable he is but he keeps forgetting his knowledge is outdated. Same as learning history but saying it’s still happening now. Emphasis on “history” meaning in the past before any new events occurred. He’s stuck insulting people and telling them something he hasn’t experienced himself (meaning recently playing KR server). To think that he’d call experience from 2 years ago still viable at our present time. Tch.
Expect more from him as I guarantee he won’t give this up no matter how much we prove his reasons to be flawed.
Alright Facedesk, I give you one last chance to redeem yourself instead of making braindead statements like “woh thats a really long time…. after everything thats happened you still think everything is the same? hahaha this joke, i love this”.
Name ONE fundamental difference in the game mechanics that has taken place since then.
No reworking how SP works. No smaller changes like the Ring of Fury nerf or skill nerfs.
Something BIG. Something SIGNIFICANT. Something that can’t just be read up about. (EM and DW being where they are now isn’t even new. It’s how they were before all the nerfs they’ve gotten. Not that you’d remember that.)
Or you know, just vomit out more of your verbal diarrhea and show why I should not waste any more time acknowledging your hypocritical ass. (Worthless insults are all you’ve thrown at me.) Because, you know. There is nothing that I can’t just read up about and understand.
Seriously. Speaking of experience as if it’s something that just goes away over time. What a fucking idiot. I bet you think Mike Tyson can’t speak about boxing because he’s been retired for over a decade, don’t you boy?
I’m starting to believe that Engame is a huge sociopath.
-Has no regards for others, make subtly or overtly demeaning comments
-Don’t respect boundaries,
-Wants to leave you feeling bad
-expresses extensive callous
-twist your words to confuse/manipulate you
-aren’t willing to consider your point of view or listen to your side of things
and so on and so forth
I had a feeling that Endgame has some sort or social disorder. And here’s one interesting read I found.
“Evidence, means little with the sociopath as the sociopath who will do and say anything to Protect the lie!”
Citation you ask? Just simply type Sociopath in whatever search engine you use.
Gonna leave this link as a starter read for people to look at.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy
well actually you dont seem to know a lot. thank you for being amusing though
Your response basically said nothing. Which is what your value is.
Goodbye Facedesk, you worthless soon of a bitch.
@Taker
It’s because he’s a sociopath.
“Most sociopaths will become angry or aggressive when their integrity is questioned, whereas a sane person would simply be happy to help clear up any misinformation or misunderstanding.”
well you cant reason with an idiot, try to point out one thing about ravens damage after revamps (VC and BM not so much anymore after nerfs) and you use 12+ as an excuse? lawl i was using sparring settings
RF still hits like a truck btw
as an EM in NA server that is currently lv 80 wearing sparring set. beating RF is just too easy, they are practically worthless. “Hits like a truck” but no way of hitting me at all. all I do is combo them with my poison 3 and everytme I feed them lots of mp, I charge my mp break before they get up, so their Guardian thing skill wno’t damage me at all. Every time he awakens, I run the whole time and spam lightning shower . The only way they could kill me is if they have 3 bead awaken and kill me with that aura with their +9 or above grend set, anything else is free rank points
“dont get hit” isnt a great argument as you will still get hit (more so with classes not called EM) also
“hits like a truck” is not just talking about this combo damage, there are other factors (like mana-break cancel which forces you to eat some of that damage)
if an RF cant catch you beside from awakening and only going for nukes, you just are not facing good RF’s
Thank you for illustrating how stupid these people are to whine about Raven, Cat.
EM is unquestionably the best class in the game right now. But people are whining about RF because….. he hits like a truck? Who the fuck doesn’t now that everyone and their grandmother has +12 weapons and some people are actually going for +13 weapons? GM and WS have been hitting like a truck before it was the trend, but the community at large never quite whined about them….. (Or at least, they flip flopped on whether or not WS is OP despite her being consistently OP.)
1. lmfao you really have no knowledge of this game anymore endgame. GrM’s combo damage has had a considerable damage drop (its pretty mediocre compared to the rest of the cast now but shes still good because of the tools the has to make up for it) and WS lacks almost everything and is one of the worst right now.
2. also just drop the 12+/13+ argument, you look like a fool trying to argue about balance then falling back on that
3. CN is better than EM right now
@Facedesk
Endgame sure do love arguing with you with some reason. Could’ve easily ignored you too like he did with me and I think MagicSpice.
remember I’m wearing a sparring set and lv 80 not Grend Set, If im wearing Grend Set and a +8, I will be the one doing the oneshotting with a 150+ mp lightning shower at the very start of the fight. And I guess the RF with SSS ranks with Grend are worthless then :) maybe you should try using EM and learn to do aerobic exercise so you would now how worthless RFs are. The only guys worth taking note are VC but that is because I wore sparring set.
Endgame always seems to shut up when I post cause he used DW years ago while i still use her currently. He can’t try to argue with or convince someone that HAS used DW since S2 PvP started while he quit before lv 75 was a thing.
but as par for the course, watch lucky come from nowhere saying i have a hard-on for Endgame’s dick cause I debate against him a lot.
I despute against Endgame and even lucky at times because Endgame just know shit about current experience and lucky just sounds like a cancerous trouble maker.
But main point that so many are trying to say? PRESENT experience is ALWAYS more reliable than PAST experience, especially when it comes to games that actively get new content. So opinions from those that DO NOT play the current classes ARE NOT law and anyone acting that way needs to go the fuck away.
meant to say “Endgame just doesn’t know shit about current experience.”
but either way, HOPEFULLY that can put this massive argument to rest, cause this shit has gone on far to long. just the dates on this reply chain prove that
EM is good we know this, but not all classes are EM. EM vs RF is in EM’s favor but doesnt mean its 100%, he has more options than awakening and nukes and better player know this (also EM cant 1 shot with lightning shower whut)
this is not really about how good or bad a player is, stop trying to show off or whatever. we are using sparring settings (most fair ground to judge class ability) not that hell arena
VC hits hard but his lack of everything else gives him problems unlike RF
anyone who is skillful at any character is strong or sometimes OP. but yes some characters tend to take less effort (or WAY LESS) but any class can be broken guys.( or not)
HOW DARE U ELESIS IS MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN BITCH ASS RAVEN
yes they bring back some of the deleted skill, this make my days of waiting ….WORTH ….so worth.
AH HAH, I told u Void Impact will be back
DE passive : Time Trouble
Kneeling =]]
DE passive makes me remember the light novel immediately
the Add skillz ORGAMSIC
Why? You can’t even see them.
Hype for all Addies & Ele-neechan tachi!!!!!!
Especially Lupsie baby~ 8(> ㅈ <")8
I have never cringed so hard in my life
But Addurabuer-kun! Kairu-chan’s post is totes kawaii-desu~1!!!!11!11!!1
All I ask is one new post without EndGame recruiting for the autist assylum…..
Uuuu~. SuperND-kun. Why must you be so mean? Am I not kawaii and moe enough~?
Your like the kid that gets locked under the stairs, you should stay there.
…..Locked under the stairs? What?
Don’t you mean shoved into the locker?
that works too. we should just shut your ass in a locker and keep you locked up there.
don’t worry endgame, we’ll give you your food through the vent you can stare out of
From what I have read on the page (as of the time I wrote this post, the fields were still blank), every Elesis, Lu/Ciel and Add class gets 10% crit chance and maximization…from the Level 70 passive.
I checked it again, so nevermind. BH and MM are excluded from this and CrA only gets this for Annihilation.
and only when below 50% HP
Meh Elesis will be no problem but Add and LuCiel …. e- e
lol
CrA’s transcendence looks great….. but below 50% and 30% HP when she already heals WAY TOO MUCH!?
and that’s the thing… it’s more for PvP where her healing is massively gutted
rip DL
Whelp sounds like Ele can dethrone EM….
Look at that CrA Magic Reflect
At least GA’s kicks and works….
This means Endgame is going to bitch that his waifu isn’t on top anymore
Love and Justice shall prevail.
Prostitute Elesis cannot reflect projectiles if EM doesn’t let her activate Gale~.
DW says fuck you to projectile deflections with staff whacks
and energy road if under super armor trait
I think u meant +11
more like +12…. maybe +13 given KR’s enhancement revamp
Do you have to reply to every little thing he posts? Do you want his dick that badly? :/
with how much you talk about endgame’s dick, you must want his up your ass and then some
go be cancer with him somewhere else. it’s just a fucking opinion I started
keep in mind that reflect only is in gale AND below %50 hp. no dethroning yet
Aww always wanted Endgame to bitch because its funny that he doesnt even play the game XD
There’s a good chance I played the game more than you idiots who keep spouting this “doesn’t play the game” bullshit ever will.
It means nothing.
You mean nothing.
dude, Elesis got minor buffs, BH excluded cause she’s busted
BM and RF are both busted too smh
Free 16% Crit Rate and Maximize is “minor”. lolsure.
aren’t you an EM fag? lol sure
I mained DW, actually.
Not that Aisha has anything to do with Elesis’ passives…..
I mean, really? You get a hole poked in your statement and you retort by bringing up Aisha? What the hell?
funny, I STILL main DW…
see the difference? you quit long ago, yet I’m STILL playing her
Um OG don’t forget VC man he is busted too
No.
I guess when ignition crow can one shot its fair but if sword fire does 25% its too op.
So let me get this straight. VC needs to build up 200 MP then unleash the fire birdy of doom?!
…..
You know other classes can kill you for much less MP at this point, right?
You know other classes have +12 weapons and can instakill with a 200 MP skill, right?
You know EM and Eve don’t need to even hit you before they can hit you up with special actives, right?
There’s nothing overpowered about that in the current metagame. It’s par the course. Just because you lose to more of them does not mean he’s overpowered. It could be a variety of factors. VC being more popular than the actual overpowered classes, (What? Did everyone stop playing DE?) the queue pitting you against more of them at random, you sucking…..
Funny how people are quick to leap on me for saying Raven isn’t overpowered. But as soon as I tear apart their idiocy in detail, (Suggesting someone that doesn’t have easy access to MP like Aisha, Eve, or Add is broken for a 200 MP in +12 land.) they immediately go silent.
Hmm…..
boy, you sure forgot about RF and the fact that he fists someone so hard that it hits MORE than DW staff damage (which already can reach 5 digits if you’re strong enough)
and the fact that RF has a combo canceling manabreak… and this is without looking at his skills.
you asked for a response, there it is.
If you were talking to me about becoming silent EndGame, its because I have a life. I look at updates on this website, post a comment or two, then go back to the real world. Sucks you dont seem to know what that is. But referring to your raven response, I play raven. I have a VC in fact. The fact that I can one shot players who tried harder to win the match then I did is proof enough by how broken the class is right now.
When people would call you stupid I used to think they were being facetious but I see now what they mean.
yeah Raven OP?? give me +8 grend set and I will crush those bitches with my EM. One Lightning Shower followed by ZZX~X could end their whole career with +8. (Magic Missile or Meteor Call against VC cause that darn reduce stun duration is helpng him alot).
When they say ‘ignores guard’ what are they referring to? Like, is there anyone else who uses guard besides ching anyways?
Love the ‘every hit with Sword of victory ignores guard and defense’ (not really)
monsters that have shield
Well i mean i think this means that if u use damage reduction stats it doesnt mean shit if im right that means shit is op
There is a socketing effect called “reduced damage” that you can apply to your armor and weapon. Ignore guard simply ignores that socketing effect and deals the full damage of your weapon. It is silly nowadays if you think about it bc everybody one-shots anyways, but it is useful against NPCs pvp battles because it ignores their mag/phy defense. It is also useful in dungeons.
No that’s not what ignoring guard does.
Ignoring guard ignores things like what happens when a monster puts up their shield in a dungeon. It doesn’t effect the socket damage reduction at all. It might also effect the damage on Core Shields and Heavystance but im too lazy to check
Nothing ignores damage reduce unless it specifically states damage reduce.
add dam also ignores damage reduction.
not sure about critical skill trait (the one saying “ignores defense and guard”), but that does seem to ignore red dam
Time to see Endgame do his weekly bitching :^)
and yet BM can’t have his Flying Impact back
I think that GrM will be a bit OP on 1v1 with her new passives…
All of Add stuff looks disgusting.
Luciel looks ok.
“A bit”?
…..GM was the class that was one comboing people back when +10 was as high as most pay2winners were willing to go. But you think passives that in 1v1 PVP basically amount to her getting 16% Crit Rate and Maximize (Which might not be affected by diminishing returns yet stack with what you have from sockets like passive boosts to stats usually are.) on top of all the shit she already has are going to make her “a bit” overpowered?
Whatever.
She seems like BM tbh idk why but they do seem the same o -o
They are nothing alike GM does not even need to struggle to get a catch.
LK is the pure strength swordfighter.
BM is the speedy swordfighter.
…..And GM is stronger than LK AND faster than BM! AND she has some ranged combos while they don’t!
Why? Because fuck you. That’s why!
BM with 11-36% crit passive and 1k atk/mag passive are nothing worth ?
didnt event count new trans skills
The T.LP’s active is more or less just a copy of Disolver: stronger but can only gain 1 MtP
So im guessing Dissolver for pve and the other is for pvp.
Geezus christ, as mained CrA I ofc love this, especially for PvE xD even Hero Mode might become less challenging now.. them Chivalry Gauge buffs <3
I'll flame Add lateron, I'm just too fangirl'ish bout Elesis (all 3) atm ♥
Anyone else think it’s lazy how all three Loli Cancer and Pedo Butler classes just get the same Liberated Will?
And -100 Light Resist? Is that really a fair thing to do to them? We’re up to our ass in darkness themed classes (With Prostitute Elesis’ darkness being even darker than theirs!) but only they have a weakness to light?
I mean, sure. VP shouldn’t have it since she’s just using dark magic. But IS and CA outright eat Dark El with clear mutation as a result and may as well be considered demons at this point.
Eh.
there is a thing called anti-hero’s
and yes it seems like they got way too lazy with luciel’s passives but at they same time, they are fairly damn good (event though copy+paste). -100 light resist is a good trade off for everything else
What the hell do anti-heroes have to do with anything I said?
…..Is your brain mush because you named yourself after your favorite activity?
uh you called anti-heros “demons”, why not just leave it at anti-heros and save some wasted time
actually im named this after seeing you talk so much (not even joking)
No, I called humans that injected themselves with Dark El demons. Because that is the definition of “demon” in Elsword. A creature empowered by Dark El.
Ran was once Aren Haan. A human. But then Dark El turned him into a demon.
What’s wrong with my posts? Are they too complicated for your feeble mind to comprehend? Because I never said ANYTHING about darkness or demons being inherently evil.
well actually i was referring to almost every other week but i guess it was too hard for you to understand
What makes you think that I didn’t get that and that I wasn’t also talking about every other week?
Gods you’re a fucking idiot.
actually its called misunderstanding because you’re trying to talk about this week and others in 1 sentence. its actually pretty common but probably not for you because you think you’re the only one thats ever right.
You’re not even being coherent anymore.
was going to point it out but gg i give up, to lazy to waste the effort explaining to someone who cant be reasoned with even if they are wrong
can you at least make an attempt to hold a discussion without the use of swearing?
it sort of writes you off as a kid.
Whining about other people swearing makes you sound like a kid~.
best comeback 2k16 ^
watch out everyone. we got a real badass here…
Maybe it’s a mistranslation.
If that was the case, then that +5% Light proc shouldn’t be there. Wouldn’t make any sense to me.
some people think it’s a typo and is meant to add +100 instead because why would their light proc increase but resistance decrease?
>implying there is suprise to be had at kog` being lazy
http://gif.co/vj8x.gif
Tell me Why?
“When Combination Gauge is lower than 5, cost of standby character’s skills decreases and physical abilities are increased”. When you play Lu/ciel you have always more than 5 points , are seroius?
I have Standby character skill cost decrease: MP -20%
Crit : +10%
Max : +10%
Dark Resist : +100
Light Resist : -100
Dark Proc : +5%
Light Proc : +5%
only when i have 5 combination gauge? Pls Stop This Shit
is lower*
LuCiel buff a little -_-
someone forgets about PvP….
you’re not gonna have more than 5 points there all the time
hell, given that you start at 0, you’ll have this buff a ton… PLUS 3rd route Luciel can just burn their CP outside of combination skills
I’m still wondering.. Space Distortion..
Are the combos going to ignore defense or what?
no, it ignore the guard, for example: it ignore the shield of shield mobs but not their defense and damg reduction part
so much for IP’s broken blocking with that…
ugnh……..why…….why is CA still so f*king weak……..
also really no time duration extend for Shade Illusion? or mp reduction? damn it all.
and plz dont tell me that 80mp Stab special active is just a CA version of Critical Stab (GrM)
and how the HELL AM I SUPPOESD TO GET MY HP BELOW EVEN 60% BECAUSE LIKE, I”M TOO IMMORTAL
They don’t give a fak bout CA and keep buffing OP classes.
Cries*
no, they do…
she’s got her broken healing back. I’ve even seen a PvP vid with that shit healing over 1 mil in there…
this is a buff…. but no main CrA wants it
only for pvp*
Woah. this day finally come!
what a great view i see.
all those passive are great! not too op, not too lame.
im satisfied now. the game is great! (no sarcasm!)
My Crimson Avenger. Not sure if this was useless or something I should be happy about. I’ll still main her either way
Huh? And here I thought these would be worse in the silly its broken as balls category. Imagine that, this is just very middle ground honestly. To be fair the more recent classes were not like the old ones where they needed a damn good kick in pants to get back to standard, but this feels so underwhelming. Out of all of these I say I like is probably BH’s Burst Rising, its like it never left at all. Granted at this point I have gotten use to BH without that move in PvE. I see the Add stuff and Lu/Ciel stuff ,but I am either not impressed or really quaking in my boots. So I guess this leaves Rose left. Predictions?
Rose is probably going to get the skills that were left out from DFO.
I expect to see Freyja have multiple clones of herself. Hopefully they try to go towards the route of being original though.
YES! YES! This Is DELICIOUS! LET’S CANCER IN PVP :D
PvP already was cancer though…
you gotta be geared just to fucking function in it…
And y’all where fapping to new director
Ded game
Am i the only one thinking that kog is really buffing whatever class was op after renewals and keeping it down with the weaker classes?
VP used to be OP…..until they removed that trait from Hell Drop that makes it not mana-breakable
Losing her gravity ball catching game when they gutted its launch is when VP fell off, actually.
yeh no catch or dmg anymore… we can be proud of being punchbags
there’s always the hit and run bullshit they do…
you know, firing dark balls constantly for cheap ass amounts of MP?
And thank god they did. Hell drop was absolutely ridiculous.
I wonderd how the T.GM’s passives works in winners match (even thou the que is pretty much dead by now).
So, has anyone else tried Arpiel?
I feel like GrM didn’t get any new skills , besides passives..
Divine Blade , it’s just mini version of GrM’s hyper . Upper slash might be the old snap crasher , and cross slash , just how many times does it hit ? , description says 2 , but 247 % x 2 , it’s too low for a 100 MP skill
GM was never about special actives. She’s always been about high damage combos and overpowered debuffs + passives. Hence why she excells at PVP but sucks at PVE.
Also, KOG is lazy as fuck.
OK KOG You buff LuCiel with one skill but you buff Elesis Add with >1 skills T-T
Looks at GrM pasives and compare them to her little bro ones…
-takes a bucket of chocolate ice cream and goes to cry in a corner-
No matter how many directors they go through, shitting all over LK while lavishing GM with overpowered passives is the one form of consistency with KOG.
“fak we running out of ideas for luciel liberated will”
“Copy/paste them to every luciel class”
NAILED IT.(lol)
ikr
they might as well call it: Liberated Will – Luciel
I feel like they’re trying to make CA an all-around PVP class after reading this. I just hope she’s fine in PVE now. Doesn’t feel like I’m using my +11 when I use her.
I don’t know how I feel about BH getting Burst Rising back. I would have rather got Burst Wave back instead. I never really liked Burst Rising as a skill for her. It was way too weak. But, eh, doesn’t matter to me since it was only 1 skill.
I would have preferred if Liberated Will: Blazing Heart was a passive for CA instead. Since BH already has a load of ignore defense capabilities while CA has none.
But, I can’t really complain. Everything is looking very nice for the 3 Elesis.
So how much magic attack does BH get from 500 fire resist according to the passive i need someone to confirm this :c
Well Elboy class except Rune Slayer still is the most balance characters in this game
Being underpowered is not being balanced.
Dude, stop! Get some help, you need it. Your facts are all wrong.
If you want to make a statement, play the game first and then say what’s good or bad about a character.
btw Rs is not underpowered at all and, if you don’t believe me, try it (trns RS, obviously).
Can you shit stains come up with anything other than me having not played the game recently? (It actually hurts you guys more than it hurts me. All you’re saying is that I was smart enough to leave this hollow shell of a game for better ones while you’re all dumb enough to stick around.)
Do you really think if I reinstalled the game (And instantly took away your ONLY “argument”.) I would have any problems adjusting to what’s changed since then? (Read: My main class getting better.)
You people truly are fucking idiots.
How do I know this? Because you people are STILL whining about little RS and his >>^XZ, which is one of, if not, the worst catches when used offensively. (Well, trying to catch with Rolling Smash is worse, I suppose…..) It leaves RS open for a ^X from Aisha or Rena. Then he gets caught and destroyed.
Oh, but you know what >>^XZ IS good as? A defensive catch.
Why are you fucking idiots still running straight into RSes?! If you learn how to avoid it, he cannot catch you. And thus, cannot do anything to you.
Why do you even care about posting here instead of playing those other games then?
If you have moved on to other games but are just staying here to provoke other users then kindly leave. Plus, using offensive language is just one sign that you are immature and can be seen as an individual who gives off immature points or arguments in a debate.
On top of that, I think most people are using the “You are not playing this game anymore” argument because they are tired of your intolerence since even with valid arguments and with personal opinions especially you will give out unnecessary insults.
leave endgame alone! Your just jealos your not big a frick and hotness bastard as endgame!!!!!!!
I just want to watch KOG burn at this point.
I love you Rose.
As for “maturity”….. there is a very real chance that Donald Trump could be the next president of the United States. If the most narcissitic, thin skinned, facist piece of shit can end up becoming the leader of the most powerful nation of the world….. how much is “maturity” really worth?
Never mind how most of my detractors are being very “immature” themselves. You don’t see me using the word “retarded” to refer to them, now do you? Yet people are calling me “retarded” for saying Raven isn’t broken…..
Really, the complaining about me “swearing” when it is pretty much the norm in American society reeks of grasping at straws and comes off as very “childish”. “OOH! YOU SAID A BAD WORD! I’M TELLING MOMMY!”
“Maturity” is just a buzzword. It doesn’t mean anything. Especially not in heated internet arguments over video games which are, let’s be honest, inherently “immature”.
I KNEW VOID IMPACT WOULD BE BACK WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IM TOO HYPE FOR THE ADD SKILLS
LEVELING IN KR RITE NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ALSO DID THEY JUST GIVE DIE PANZER BUSTER 2.0?
im too hype
new icons will be gr8 for Add just watch
gonna be
hot
mmmmm
So Void Impact makes it’s return..
Sure hope somebody picked up that phone, because I fucking called it.
Did anyone else notice that Time Trouble’s Icon has LP on it…… and Welcome back the “most broken skill for DiE” Void Impact
shushhhhhhhh~, its Time Tracer with the similer hair style as LP
I’m willing to bet they don’t nerf how it aims in PvP
Cross Slash reinstated, moved to Grand Master : Transcendent.
…………………It’s air slash with a new name……………………………..
True
I don’t get pulse gatling back?
/cry
For the record u dont need skill to play elsword and win, just a +11 gear and an add/luciel/raven/rose :DD
That’s right. Raven is more overpowered than Aisha, (Minus VP.) Eve, and Elesis.
…..Can I have what you’re smoking?
I think you’re the one smoking something, cause +11 makes EVERY class OP….
but wait, KR can always reach +13, even outside of events now…
Hold up, CrA’s new passive that stacks five times can give 10% wind/dark proc rate. Does that mean if there are 5 enemies that the proc rate goes to 50%? If so then dark 3 would have 60% chance of striking. If thats true then thats broken af.
I assume so. Wind is also quite expensive in KR, so I might either go for Dark, Dark, Wind or Dark, Water, Wind for my CrA now.
Goodbye sweet Gatling ._.
I like how everyone is complaining xD..
and LF> DiE’s sexy transendence picture * u *
didnt give spear to CBS but gave to LP
ok, pls rot in underground waterway
yeah, I don’t get the logic in this…
or is LP confirmed to be based off CN a bit?
While almost everyone is complaining about how “underpowered” their mains are, and she thinking that the rest are broken as hell. I just sat here reading the comments. PS: Endgame stop acting like a child, swearing and thinking that you’re always right.
Raven is really broken actually.. Quit defending him.
Elboy.. Im pretty sure he’s really strong when played well.
LuCiel’s Liberated wills are completely ridiculous. DL is still the weakest LuCiel Job. Rip
Im pretty sure Aisha isn’t underpowered at all.
Ill ignore whatever Endgame says about my opinion. He’s really not even worth to argue with.
And thinking*
If you’re just going to ignore him then why even call him out? You don’t see how childish you are acting right now? :/
So what? Ryu should let him go on a rant thinking hes right about what he said?Ryu is “calling him out” first to make a point of opposition because Endgame clearly has problems with the “game” even though he does not play it anymore. He or she will ignore any further comment made by Endgame after that post.
So LuckyDucky, if I may ask, why are you defending Endgame and calling Ryu childish. Any “good” person would attempt to protect the game they love from any hate. If indeed you are insulting Ryu by saying he is “childish”; if childish is an insult at all. Then you my “friend” are the childish one.
The only subject I agree with Endgame on is the matter with LK. LK has always had poor catching game that only gear can provide a sufficent support. Without gear LK pales in comparison to any other character.
LK has a pretty bad neutral, but not the worst
Lucky defends endgame cause he’s too busy sucking his dick
he’s tried to get on me a few times when I said something to endgame.
they both need to just go fuck each other in the ass somewhere and leave us all alone, cause they’re practically the two cancers of this site
Leave Ryu alone! Leaving a steaming pile of shit and running away from the argument before anyone can tear apart your braindead idiocy is a cornerstone of internet arguments!
a lot of this is nothing surprising… some copy-pasted skills (literally in the case of some passives), some old stuff returned (if they nerf void impact’s aiming area in PvP, I’m okay with it returning).
I’m just wondering how rose will be soon, cause after her comes PvP S5 by the looks of it
maybe it’d help prevent matches ending in less than a minute if they had everyone start off with over 200k HP (and not cut it down).
I can tell we normally don’t get it cause 150k damage one-shots my DW who has 230k HP… get rid of that reduced HP formula already
Will endgame reply?
well raven is not broken if u can play right then they should not be a problem..
o
Hey Endgame, how many years did you play Elsword and when did you drop it?
I’m curious…
Started in 2009. Quit in 2013 because of the combination of the ST Revamp + Elesis + completely throwing Ara under the bus. Came back for a bit for the sole purpose of killing Elesises in PVP. Quit again because it took 2 hours just to find a single Elesis. And then I played KR for a few days when Lu and Ciel first came out because they were giving out free NX. (Which I couldn’t even get because I don’t have the e-mail address associated with my Nexon KR account. Yet Closers’ free NX events just gave me NX codes directly from the website…..)
You know what’s REALLY sad about all this bitching about Raven?
Most of the people here are NA players. They’re bitching about NA Ravens.
The fucking idiots that mindlessly charge at you and call you a “runner” as soon as you don’t do the same thing/jump out of the way of RF’s dive after correctly predicting it. Those idiots.
Those are the guys these people are whining about. Maybe it’s time to consider quitting video games…..
No, not just Elsword. ALL video games. Even shit like Fire Emblem: Fates’ Phoenix Mode.
Meanwhile, Add’s disadvantages compared to everyone else have all but disappeared (Mass +12 weapons make EVERYONE as squishy as he was. He still gets DP to start off with from RoF while everyone else loses the free unavoidable catch he never had.) finally making him as overpowered as he was always made out to be. (At first he wasn’t and the problem was no one knowing how to fight him….. you know. Add hard countering the playstyle I described of NA Ravens.) But now everyone’s quiet about him…..
LF>DL active dagger skills (KoG should change DreadLord to DeadLord, they should’ve made a passive to buff their Apol and Obli just not to the point of one shotting players).
NB needs a better passive, sacrifice is a good passive but it’s not the kind I depend on. Hell, I even forgot it even exist, the passive should enchant more skills, not just Shadow bolt.
DM is alright. (I guess).
And for God’s sake why do they all have the same effect Liberated Will effects. (Come on, even I can think better ways to improve them, like come on Bossing with Lu/Ciel is utterly impossible with bosses that has Super Armor!)
I shouldn’t be phased by this… this is just KoG being KoG…
LF>Bossing skill for NB and DM
plz gimme Burning Phantom with Blood hit back. seriously kog. im fine making it cost 300 mp, just make it charge using hp instead of mp. cuz you know, the Blood Hit gimmick? forgot about that did you?
As someone who mains a GA, what can i do to a 30% hp CrA?
Good thing i have a CrA as a secondary, but sad thing i have to rework my water III to dark or wind T_T
Honestly… I could careless about the characters’ power in itself, What i’m really pissed off about is that about half the transcendence skills for most of these characters are fucking reused from previous skill trees like that shit’s ok….
Took me forever to get to the comment box. You guys were going in on those arguments
ANYWAYS! I wouldn’t be surprised if Endgame still played Elsword. Also, Raven is still more OP than Elesis. Reason being is that his overall damage output is higher. Also his natural defense is pretty decent too. Also, considering renewal gave RF and BM a good amount of catches compared to Elesis, I would say Raven has gotten a bit more OP. BM is notorious for his many ways of catching. While RF isn’t known for his catches, we can all agree that his damage is something to not play with. Both from commands and skills alike. VC has always been the same. Except this time instead of a good Harpoon finisher, he can dish out some DoT and ignition finisher, and if that doesn’t kill you, the HP difference is enough to decide the match. Same all applies in PvE. However, Elesis is a different story. (Am a faithful SSS Crimson Avenger. I never bandwagoned :D) Sure BH is known for having DoT off the ass, but that’s about it. She is a very straightforward class. When she’s using her triple fireball command or her bowling ball command she’s share in the air. And there is a 2 second drop that players can awaken to catch or if you’re really experienced, while she’s about to get in the air, you can just get behind her. As far as damage. Her damage is actually decent. But again, her skills required you to be on the ground or be at some distance in front of her. Such as her pull ability. GrM on the other hand is good at catching. All her commands are designed to catch and combo along with Leap, rushing sword, (her spinning ability) and it goes on. However her damage is OK. It’s not really the best. In fact I’d go as far too say that’s it’s inferior to BH and CrA. However she does have a break ability and her abilities tend to give off air pretty good damage. But still compares very little to Raven. With my Crimson Avenger. I attach wind element. She has a good damage output. Actually better than the other 2 from my experience. Her healing is decent(more so with trancende) however as far as catches her commands aren’t great. Objection abilities is a way to catch but overall you’d have to rely on dodge and slash and stigma. That or you rely on base commands. However combos are pretty nice and I can get a pretty good heal on with a few skills and xdrops. But still compares to Raven who can dish out exceptionally high damage, Elesis is still inferior.
But that’s just my opinion based on my experience
There were some typos. My objection was meant to be Injection.
True you’re right (i main CrA too btw ^^) and wind does help out a lot. I can agree on GrM also. but i have a question. Am i the only one that misses crimson break or….? O.o
Agreed on all points. Raven has more resilience and damage, and in lagless KR has seen broad success. Critical skills allow people to have a set win condition from the push of a button, and anything lacking that kind of burst right now (or preventative measures like seen with Shadow step or forcing mana breaks) is shafted. Dodge and Slash losing I-frames hurt every Elesis extremely hard as she cannot juke things the same way as Raven can, all because Grand Masters abused it too hard. Then their damage got nerfed and now a GrM’s only strong point is being a punching bag with a “chance” of winning if the opponent gets ahead of themselves. +11s/+12s ignore that and critical skills combined with that….Grand Master’s best trait doesn’t shine at all. CrA in comparison is based on initial momentum and BH is based off of if the opponent can’t close gaps with her easily. Raven has proven that his only limitation so far is that he cannot contest characters like Ara who have longer range and multiple gap closing options. Everyone and their mother has a gap closer after transcendence, and Raven just happens to have gotten some as well, boosting his lackluster approach game (along with Shadow Step) finally out of the rut it has been in for years. It’s just a matter of playing well, and since RoF nerf everyone has been getting a GIGANTIC reality check of their own class’ weaknesses.
All arguments based off of damage output are completely moot. (Reminder that GM was one comboing others back when +10 was the highest most would go and +11s were event only.) With the advent of mass +12 weapons and even lol +13 weapons, anyone can kill anyone in one combo. (Dying in one combo isn’t just for Add anymore~.)
And with that and the fact that free RoF catches are a thing of the past, the catching game is now the only thing that matters.
…..Who wins the catching game? Raven with his loldive and subpar ranged combos? Or Elesis with her massive normal attack hitboxes and superior ranged attacks to VC in all three classes? (GM’s even coming with fucking super armor.)
…..Elbrat and Raven were never overpowered, and they never will be. Simply because KOG has no intention of addressing their core weakness.
Endgame please understand that I don’t want to join your hate base, but I have to say you are very incorrect. Elsword is a bit OP for the simple fact that he has a mega damage output. Ever been hit by an Elsword, their normal commands hurt like hell for NO reason. Also, Raven, as I explained is OP. I’m sorry Endgame but if you truly do not post the game. Come back for about 2 weeks, experience PvP or sparring. Raven has gotten out of hand. And you say GrM from when +10 era was 1 comboing? That’s irrelevant. We have +12 and in Korea and Japan, +13. Things have changed buddy. Also, the fact that Raven only needs a +7 to one combo people (except BM) is atrocious. When in history has that ever been possible? I’m a OBT player (means open beta) and I’ve never seen someone 1 combo someone else with a +7. It’s not OK. I mean VC and his old Harpoon Spear were…..”Shady” but I seriously can’t recall a true one combo. And DW didn’t really count because the MP cost on her energy spurt wasn’t worth using.
Just my opinion.
DW honestly just needs her staff now…
+9 with oath already meant easy 1 combo for her (needs energy drain at least once and at least one of her 100 mp stuns). Now she lowers phys defense AS she staff whacks the hell out you…
main thing about pvp now is that nearly everyone’s damage is absurd… but some classes like RF, VC, DC, etc… they got it far too easy….
I mean hell, there’s supposedly a nerf on projectile damage in PvP but it doesn’t stop rose, DC, and GA from shooting you to death…
I love how I can rely on Babel and Endgame to provide entertainment in the comment section. You guys are great. Keep arguing over stupid shit kty.
I don’t know if I should feel honored or disturbed that the comment section would instantly die if I were to leave.
no, we’d just keep it moving…
it’d be no different if any one of us stopped posting on here, people would just move the hell on
awesome!