2016/10/20 Balance Patch Notes
| Character | Changed | Detail |
| Shared | Critical Trait | – Critical Trait changed from 100% Ignore Defense ⇒ 50% Ignore(25% in PvP). |
| Blade Master | Dash Jump ZZZZ | – Fixed problem of Dash Jump ZZZZ attack hitbox lasting longer than attack motion. |
| Veteran Commander | Overheat | – Amount of key inputs needed for overheat decreased |
| Mercenary Survival Strategy | – level 1 effect changed as follows
Physical Defense 10% ⇒ Physical Defense 12.5% Magical Defense 5% ⇒ Magical Defense 12.5% Element Resistance +50 ⇒ Element Resistance +25 – Per level increase changed to Physical/Magical Defense 2.5%, Element Resistance +25 |
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| Code Nemesis | Assault Spear
– Judgement |
– Black Hole range decreased |
| Generate Black Hole | – [Enhanced] skill effect changed from black hole range and power increase ⇒ to 5sec cooldown decrease | |
| Queen of Destruction | – level 1 MP recovery rate changed from 5 ⇒ 2
– Per level MP recovery rate changed from 2.5 ⇒ 2 |
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| Queen of Vengeance | – level 1 conversion rate changed from 33% ⇒ 15%
– Per level conversion rate changed from 33% ⇒ 5% |
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| Atomic Blaster | – Plasma particle bullet damage changed from 288% ⇒ 115% | |
| Code Empress | Liberated Will :
Code Empress |
– Unlimited summon duration removed and changed to 1.5x base summon duration. |
| Tactical Trooper | Reaction Gloves | – level 1 reduced damage rate changed from 5% ⇒ 2.5%
– Per level reduced damage rate changed from 5% ⇒ 2.5% |
| Tactical Field | – Reduced damage effect changed from 30% ⇒ 20%
– [Enhanced] skill 5% reduced damage increase effect removed |
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| Grand Master | Knight’s Destiny | – Guardian’s Sword activation condition changed from HP 75% ⇒ 50%
– level 1 Guardian’s sword damage increase changed from 6% ⇒ 2.5% – per level Guardian’s sword damage increase changed from 3% ⇒ 2.5% – level 1 body of steel defense/reduced damage rate changed from 7% ⇒ 2.5% – per level body of steel defense/reduced damage rate changed from7,6,5% ⇒ 2.5% |
| Waltz of the Sword | – Changed to increase rushing sword amount every 2 levels increase instead of 1 | |
| Saber – Extinction | – Damage 627% ⇒ 488% | |
| Crimson Avenger | Ejection Buster | – Damage 592% ⇒ 332%
– Cooldown 11 ⇒ 14sec |
| Mastermind | Phantom Seeker | – PvP modifiers changed
– Drone hit damage 319% ⇒ 228% |
| Dynamo Configuration
– Fission Shot |
– Core explosion damage 1091% ⇒ 849%
– Fission explosion damage 339% ⇒ 319% – Mutation Point amount increased from 1 ⇒ 2 |
CN: I HOPE YOU DONT THINK I DONT STILL RUN THE TOP TIER OF PVP
I AM THE ALMIGHTY, YOU’RE JUST SOME FREAK.
It is just me who think that they should fiz the minor problems before try to do this balance crazy patches? Like, Raven having a crazy passive in base class? Or caracters that have comands and skills of who should only hit foward but his bugged hitbox make then hit behind ? I dont know, but i think that should be the way to go.
Sorry for typos, i just woke up
Bruh, numbers ARE a minor problem. Scaling is easily fixed. Hitboxes are a different thing. Hitboxes are important but they are definitely not the most relevant issue.
Im here thinking about roses guns backward hitboxes. that is a necessary asap fix
And the sudden bullet shoot even when you interrupt the command with an attack (yeah you finally caught her and a random bullet suddenly comes out).
crazy passive? which crazy passive? talking about that atk increase passive? let me remind you: that one only becomes “crazy” after lv70, before that the increase is not that much
i see your point, but still a problem after 70, it makes even more of a problem for the fact the all raven classes have attack buffs, is not like a class that need this, i personally think this a problem, but is something that we can discuss with time.
Even tho I -cough cough- main veteran commander I do agree his overheats and over moves are broken as hell and he needs to be needed or some shit like that cause well the salt in pvp is overwhelming.
don’t even try to argue with a raven player, they would throw some shitty excuse and blame some other character or say their still no OP enough….
Not me 0-0
Say ty Raven dosen’t get 2000 attack and magic just saying
MORE, MORE. GIVE ME MORE OF THIS GOOD STUFF.
*SHOOTS UP THESE PATCH NOTES INTO HIS VEINS*
lmao
Give us more nerf, more and more
if they nerfed the enemy as well, I might think gimping the players was justified. but if all they’re going to do is gimp the players and make the enemies more and more busted (like they’ve done in the past)…
well, we all know they live on getting people to spend $$$$ trying to get +12 or whatever the highest 0.0000000000001% success 99% breakage chance upgrade is these days, but it’s a shame they don’t try to hide it.
Nerf Critical Trait make some character job noob more and more :v
i like almost everything but the ejection buster nerf, her clearing needed that and there were so many other things they could’ve done to fix her but no…… they had to half ass that one
That’s actually a good point. For pvp its good but pve wise not so much. If they were to start implementing different tool tips, it’d have to start with ejection buster i guess. Unless they’re planning on a completel overhaul where all the skills get seperate tooltips.
maybe they are trying to force users to do party plays? don’t know, ejection buster has a huge range and really fast activation, reducing its damage is not the real way to balance it but its something
I LIKE IT I LIKE IT I LIKE IT *GIVES KOG A PAT ON THE BACK AND A ICECREAM WITH 2 CHERRIES) ?
Noooooooo T_T why must fatal be nerfed?!
That is a pretty huge indirect WS nerf since most of her skills are Fatal…so sad about that
CN : Meh who even uses salt spear judgement and atomic blaster in pvp/pve unless its for precise iframe dodges for the latter and to annoy the living daylights of salters for the prior
*gracefully still dominates top tier pvp*
Loved that nerf at critical trait, and bm hitbox, now nerf rf hitbox and gg
Critical Trait changed from 100% Ignore Defense ⇒ 50% Ignore(25% in PvP).
So you said i can’t even hit damage with my special actives anymore (WS) and gonna just spam siege huh ??? Okey KoG thank you , really appreciate it
I couldn’t care less bout those cheesy character changes… I AM BLOODY MAD ABOUT KOG NERFING THE DAMN CRITICAL TRAIT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT BROKEN AND USELESS PVP SYSTEM THEY’VE GOT. Oh My… How many resources are the PVE players gonna lose to satisfy those crybabies from Arena? Fuck.
should have been something like 100%pve 50%pvp
but then again they could be trying to force us into either party or cashing
so much for bypassing joaquin and nasod inspector’s shields…
unless you have like +13 or something, the damage isn’t worth it
>they could be trying to force us into either party or cashing
presentation of the implication that kog` hasn’t been doing both of those things for years. you’re funny.
What are you talking abaut, this is one of the best thing KoG have done, Critical trait is broken and one of the reason people get one shooted by Ignition Crow or Saber – Extinction now days whit not even a chance to MB or mabye MB in time cause your HP is aredy as low for you opponent win easy, so atleast they are not removing it from game (i wish they would)
>How many resources are the PVE players gonna lose to satisfy those crybabies from Arena? Fuck.
all of them. the consequence of KOG` refusing to make things work differently between two dissimilar modes of play is that PVE suffers continually for the sake of obnoxious PVPfags who think all games that have PVP exist only for PVP.
true true
Trivial TT nerfs. There is your TF nerf guys :^)
ARA??? DE??? where???
as always from XXX KoG
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insert any cute animal name here
if you’re expecting KOG to nerf add, leave the game then cus that will nerver happen LOL
well both space crack and reverse stigma will no longer do massive damage.
In all fairness MM, gets nerfed with almost every patch while his brothers generally go unscathed or even buffed at times. MM gets all the hate from KoG so technically add still does get nerfed… only reason MM doesn’t seem to be nerfed is cause pretty much every MM you come across are fairly heavily geared and aren’t stupid enough to rely on 1 specific style to win I.E. Phantom spam when he first came out, Fury->Prism after renewals just to name a couple that were popular and now utterly unviable.
its all about panzar burster now
Panzer is so garbage it’s not even funny. It’s never been a good skill and the only reason it’s remotely relevant right now is cause of critical which in case you hadn’t noticed gets a severe nerf. My 100k crit with panzer will probs drop to 60k crit which btw I deal more damage than that with chaser alone so why the fuck would I bother with panzer?
ikr, the painful thing is the nerf on grand master, Grm has already been hit hard with z nerf in NA(not sure about kr). Then we get another extra Nerf. WTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH is this. do they really think before nerfing
GM has been one combo killing everyone before it was cool with just +10 weapons.
GM has enjoyed having the most ridiculously broken defensive passive in the game.
GM has enjoyed having her newer >>XXX which I cannot stress enough how stupid stupid stupid it is.
GM has enjoyed all the other bullshit favoritism that comes with being Elesis. (Don’t tell me her older hitstun with the bigger pushback that allowed her to jump out of certain combos in lag wasn’t intentional.)
Her nerfs were a long time coming.
the past is not present, your logic sound like KoG’s to be honest
Before character revamp GrM was the shittiest class ever together with CN, i know they buff her way too much, but even with this nerf i think it’s still better than playing CBS….
i guess i will have to deal whit it :/
GM was never not broken. Ever. Her kit is just too damn good. Even now it’s +12 weapons for everyone and Aisha, Eve, and DE having better catching games/access to resources that finally knocked her down. She used to be the undisputed queen of one combo kills. (Whereas others needed to be comboing an Add to pull that one off.) Now anyone kills anyone in one combo.
Nor can GM ever be considered the worst class when at no point in time will she ever NOT be a superior version of LK, who has only ever been worse than another class because NW was shit until the ST Revamp buffed her, YR’s godawful initial release state (She had a hard time getting away from that stigma in KR long after they fixed her.), or when CN and DW were nerfed down beneath him. (Only to later rise to the top.)
true, cbs got dragged through the dirt by kog.
I rather play the grm which had heavy stunner than play this grm now. Because they just ruined her. Now the real thing is where is RF FUCKING NERF> NERF THAT >>^ZXX HITBOX, THAT HITBOX IS LIKE OLD GRM HITBOX >>^XZ with a very large range. THEY SHOULD JUST BRING BACK OUR >>^XZ HITBOX IF THEY ARE GONNA KEEP THAT >>^XZ RF HITBOX. He has already a lot of actives with good hitstun . KOG DO YOUR JOB
Your telling me that grm deserved that nerf just because of the past. WTH didn’t they nerf her a lot and now they are nerfing her again. I don’t really get your point. For a class to deserve a nerf after she was pre nerfed. After they nerfed even her dodge and slash which became Dash and slash, after the nerfed her defensive passive, after they nerfed all her passive but they just brought back her Z active back. In NA, there is no pvp modifier right now so i am pretty sure that z nerf is still there. And your saying she deserves another nerf. LOOK AT THAT SABER EXTINCTION NERF> yes it is op but tell me other class does not have a skill that one shots in dungeon or pvp. They nerf it to 488%. I am pretty sure when i use saber extinction in dungeon. I won’t even do anything and start struggling in dungeon why my sisters (CRA, BH) are being a boss in pve and pvp.
Now we talk about cbs nerf. Ok we know that it was stupid to nerf her so hard like that, but she was just to disgusting. That people trolled with cbs even in sparr by shooting you to the sky ( while you sing i believe i can fly). Sry for cbs but i don’t feel any pity. She gotta suffer for a bit. She enjoyed her time tho.
Dat critical trait nerf, they don’t even think about separate pvp from pve…..sigh
tbh i like elsword(the game) a lot, but i won’t be able to deal with kogs bullshit for too long i think :/
50% defense ignore on pve is still quite large and it forces you to use wind orbs, ice atributte or party member with defense reducing skills (we still need a mdef reducing active tho); it actually adds a little more difficulty to the game
KOG doesn’t accept feedback from other servers, that’s why they kill some characters and break others. KOG doesn’t know what balance means.
Yep.
You may see everyone and their mother whine about Rose in NA, but in KR everyone still hates her and thus nobody plays her.
Same goes for Chung. Hardly anyone plays him in KR so KOG keeps buffing him to try to encourage people to play him. But he’s more common in NA.
…..But everyone in all the regions are playing DE. So they can’t nerf him lest they bring about the end that they are actually trying to avoid for as long as possible.
kog` doesn’t care about proper feedback. kog` cares about popularity. buffs go to the unpopular, nerfs go to the popular, and random exceptions are made for their own preferences.
they themselves admitted to the popularity-driven “balance” years ago.
Ara has been able to slip through the cracks since her release.
It’s so good to see all these retards abusers crying just cuz ur chara OP was nerfed lmao
Did….. did I just see massive nerfs to GRAND MASTER?! Namely for her incredibly broken passive? (That’s already been rendered obsolete by mass +12 and +13 weapons.)
…..
It’s a fucking miracle!
I just hope this isn’t followed by something bad as the universe balancing out this miracle. Like, you know. Trump winning the election…..
don’t even joke about that…
with all the idiots in America that’s STILL on Trump’s side, him winning doesn’t seem so impossible
Holy shit. I can’t believe you two really just brought politics into Elsword. I’m just going to say you’re treading a dangerous line. Please stop.
“When Gaia sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing lag. They’re bringing +13 weapons. They’re runners. And some, I assume, have gotten gud.”
i have to admit that was dumb as hell of those two reading it made me cringe
Regardless of politics this is a totally unrelated thing and insulting half of the population with your virtue signaling is disgusting but hey freedom of speech y’all. But if you would like to have a civil conversation on the history of U.S elections feel free to ask for my personal information and PM me :3
BROKEN Passive. are you confusing crimson avenger for grand master ???????.
and trump winning election is like turning america into hell’s ground. Hilary is a crook and also trump is a crook. But i did side with Hilary than a pedophile/racist crook who keeps saying stupid things to voice his message
Knight’s Destiny was helluva drug back before the mass +12 weapons and defense ignore skills for everyone. (Which just got nerfed.)
Everyone associates CA with survivability because of the healing, but they’ve all overlooked the huge amounts of defense mitigation + resistances that GM got. Get her below 50% HP and she suddenly became a lot harder to kill.
And then they slapped on the status immunity at 25% HP thing. What the fuck were they thinking?!
“Oh, but Agility Mastery is better!” They said….. even though it was bugged and did nothing for the longest time.
Yeah personally I have to admit GrM’s passive was a little too good ahaha. Still kinda upsets me that while I’m glad they nerfed her passive, they still haven’t really done a whole lot to IP and YR which are the other top classes this season. As for the status immunity, after it got nerfed to 15% it became practically pointless xD as for defense mitigation, other than SoV resistance piercing (Thank GOD they got rid of that) she’s been constantly nerfed after that. Power Break doesn’t stack anymore so RIP defense piercing, the resistances lowered by it got decreased as well. They nerfed the proc rate increase from Annihalation aura from 25% to 20%. And overall her defense mitigation has been slowly nerfed over balance patches. Personally I wish KoG would actually make GrM have a clear stat build =w=; as it stands they can’t decide their mind between Speed vs Defense builds… Oh well. Personally I prefer just stacking full speed and going all in xD overall as long as they don’t overnerf GrM again after this (Knowing KoG they probably will. her damage buff to the party needs to get nerfed to hell though. That thing is broken as heck) I think she’ll be a solidly high tier character without being super “unbalanced”. Although we don’t have ERP yet so I couldn’t say how much the -25% MP cost is gonna help. But that 210 SoV definitely looks attractive >.>
trump winning, billary winning, both are bad outcomes. let’s be realistic.
HE DID YOU IDIOT UGHHH I HATE TRUMP SM
Wow, obviously CA is ballanced now
It’s incredible how much KOG refuses to nerf her.
They should know by now that PVE and PVP are two different things. They nerf based on PVP and the character keeps getting worse and worse in PVE.
Actually, I think KOG hás a broken system on the root program, and they simply can’t unchange it now. I don’t ser other reasons for the poor ballances.
I’m certain they don’t play their own game.
Now? Fuck do you mean now? So you even know how hard it is to main Crimson Avenger? Fuck are you even saying? Ejection Buster was literally the bread and butter of CrA in both PvE and PvP. We NEED that skill. It’s damage is good, it’s activation speed is good, with the right trait it’s hit count is even better and with Annihilation it’s even better.
Fuck out of here with that finally balanced. You mean finally fucked over?
Hmmm CrA is kinda OP in PVE o.o She could proc like nobody’s business, sure she was impossible to kill because Crimson Cleric is too good for death, but honestly while Ejection Buster got nerfed, it doesn’t mean that much with the high ends of PVE, since people have such high power gear, this nerf is pretty minor. It’s like if I said “ok lets nerf LP’s NAC”. Well sure that’s a hard hit to LP players but NAC isn’t the only thing they can do. Their Special Active damage is pretty insane. CrA may use Ejection Buster religiously, but now its just used in specific situations over using it the second the cooldown was available like most BH players with Sword Fire or GrM players with SoV and saber (I’m a GrM player btw so I’m including myself lol)
just gone nerf TT huh and have no consideration for pve gg KoG gg
TT was more than fine. He was so god tier it was crazy. I would’ve said the same thing but after playing a boosted TT with just spar gear, I changed my mind.
Oh I see
Critical trait which is important in hero dungeon got nerfed
oh okay
While some time ago lots of critical trait skills got increased MP cost
example, Blaze wing from 110% to 120% MP cost
fvck damn it KoG. You promised separate PvE PvP toolstip and this is what you do?
Nerfing current CrA’s ejection buster too? Do they even realize it’s her sole best fielding skill?
Blood cutter isnt even good anymore and often bugged out passing units instead. In the first place for Blood Cutter to deal full hits need to be cast at melee range..
poor CrA… deep condolences for scrub CrA players out there (non sparky weap)
I mean I agree with the separation of PVE and PVP thing definitely xD but while ejection buster is godly, she does have other skills, like her new Shade skill for bossing, or Brutal Cutter for some really nasty command damage. You just have to adjust to a different playstyle xD sure it sucks and all, but everyone gets heavily nerfed eventually. And tbh CrA imo was a little too strong in PVE. She could just brainlessly run past all the enemies with little to no effort on planning for MP or anything since her new T. passives are busted xD plus with ERP coming out soon these nerfs are sort of necessary since the damage on all special actives is gonna be boosted by approximately 35% at max levels of ERP, so the damage nerfs and CD nerfs aren’t going to be as apparent. It’s a necessary nerf before she gets OP again xD
CR nerf where…
GG PvE without the ignore 100% attribute.
Standard TT nerf as usual, no care for him in pve at all, good job
Nice job KoG just nice job, keep this going, critical trait should be remove from game but this 25% on pvp is close enought so ill take it any day.
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no more ignore defence eh? Good this very good -chuckles madly-
Just you wait PVP I will coming in dry…. since everyone wont have dmg advantage over me no more mwahahahhaahahahahhahahahah …….ku ku ku. they always wanted more nerf but all the good add know what nerf feel like more than these scrubs, we know how to fight with nerf , I wonder if they do kuku mwwhahahahahhahahaahha -vanishes-
Skye ur ass lol
I gottan handed to you there is one that still ignore def stats and is not Nerf in PVP or PVE
*will be coming in dry* -Vanishes again-
Well these “balances” are fucking fantastic aren’t they. Nerf PvE more, Hit skills no longer needing hitting, Hit skills with minor nerfs, Buff VC?, Ignore RF, Ignore pretty much every char really needing a nerf (Ara, EM, RF, VC ……plz destroy crow with pvp modifiers), where is Elshit’s nerfs? LK and RS are still ridiculously broken, as an Add main I’d like to say he doesn’t need more nerfs but that’s obviously bs LP and DiE are still pretty broken. And what about delay? Delay needs to be nerfed to shit. At the bare minimum halved. Smh, yet again they’ve done wonderfully at “balancing” the game.
LK isn’t broken. He’s more hate to say the term but, balanced, compared to RS and IS.
Actually at the higher levels of PVP, LK is much stronger than IS. IS can hit really hard and a lot but, at higher levels that’s overshadowed heavily by LK’s damage xD At the highest levels I’ve seen LK’s hit over 80k on their normals. And that’s pretty common even without broken gear.
Still have yet to really see some changes focusing on stuns, counters to stuns, etc. The whole thing needs a revamp.
Regardless, this is a good first step to take. Critical skills will now no longer auto win. The tanking nerfs as a result are because critical skills were a direct counter to it, but they didn’t touch WS or IP. Questionable.
Other nerfs are related to ERP. Ejection Buster is being treated as a 150 MP now.
You are thinking strictly pvp man, nerfing critical In PvE is one of the most retarded things they could have done. They should have left it at 100% in PvE. 100% fine with it being nerfed in pvp but the nerf in PvE just makes it more of a pain for people w/o +11s and up.
guess what: they want you to go for +11 or more, they are that blatant
Actually critical skills in pve were so good that normal skills were lame so is a pve balalnce to.
First relevant changes I seen in awhile
They still need to change the extreme delay on CrA DD, DC SAs.
And balance out the passives for all classes again lv 99 passives get pretty ridiculous , and the trans passives that got ignored > CrA
KOG said they’re going to start applying separate tool tips for PVP and PVE respectively. Why is CA’s ejection buster nerfed in PVE as well? That skill shouldn’t even be nerfed to begin with. IT can’t even one shot with a +12. You have skills like Ignition Crow on the other hand that can fucking one shot with a +7. Fuck off?
They also nerf TT’s red dmg on his TF? But you need MP to fucking get the red dmg? RF on the other hand has a free passive that gives like a free 30% red dmg without any prerequisites? Are you fucking kidding me??
Don’t even get me started on those “nerfs” for Add. He needs way more than that.
MM actually got a legitimate nerf…. fission shot going to 2 DMP hurts how quickly he can burst and how hard too by quite a bit, as for the other 2 ya they basicly didn’t get hit. If you wanna complain about chars not getting nerfs then look at IP,DC, Ara, ect ect. Plenty of other chars desperately in need of nerfs didn’t get them. Rather than rhaping the “hate add hype train” take a look at all the other chars too. Plenty of them need nerfs more than add does yet people are still salty about him despite him(DiE) not even being god teir anymore. I’m not against add being nerfed but lets first look at other chars who need it more.
On top of which TT still needs heavy nerfing, unlimited siege is utter bullshit and TF was always extremely cancerous…. but in all honesty it needs its CD and MP cost increased.
TF does need a nerf but i a different way.
making TF gives 0 mp gain in attacking or attacked for TT and his party. thats the real reason why TF is cancer in small maps of pvp. it gives super armor and 5+ mp per second(i think) then there is the traits. increase the cast time or large range. yet, there is no down side to the skill. with all i said, it makes it easy for them to spam siege or normal to gain enough mp to re cast it. with stun got nerf, it became more harder to punish them unless u have a ice related skill. if mp gain was removed while in the shield, TT will only use it to catch then just spamming it to win easily.
Is better if they just makeo TF like before. TF raid and endurance one give redmg and super armor and the other mp and extra dmg no more mp abuse and is still pve worth it i guess
Sigh… “hate Add hype train”. No, that’s just what you decided to see. Add is actually by favorite character. But anyway, in my original post I mainly talked about Raven and only gave Add a short bit of complaints. And I didn’t even call out what needed to be nerfed in my original post for Add .
On top of you also overlooked what I was saying for TT as well. You’re able to get the reduce damage by using MP. You HAVE to sacrifice something in order to get the red damage, while characters like Raven (RF specifically) you don’t need to do anything to have a free 30% red damage that STACKS with your current gear. So if you have 30% red damage the passive automatically gives you 60% as a result. Rather you feel it should have been nerfed or not is irrelevant. It’s completely unfair that certain characters get certain things nerfed while other characters which are way more cancerous don’t get touched.
Want another example? Dodge and Slash for Elesis was gutted because of how Grm’s decided to use it. While Shadow Step on the other hand didn’t. Even though Shadow Step and Dodge and Slash VIRTUALLY ACTS THE SAME WAY.
So blow it out your ass, bro.
It’s so fucking funny.
~Complains mostly about Raven but the one part about Add (that’s not even detailed about what should be nerfed for him for that matter) means I’m on board the Add hate train~
You must be a special type of fucking idiot, huh?
Lols, why would I comment on your opinion on raven when I agree that he needs to be nerfed. Raven’s need to be nerfed(especially VC) is so blatant it shouldn’t have to even be said at this point.
>KOG said they’re going to start applying separate tool tips for PVP and PVE respectively.
why would they do that when they insist that the playerbase is too dumb to handle things not working the same between PVP and PVE?
I swear I read that in a previous post that was on this site. And I’m not the only one who read it either because there are various other people even in this comment section that have said the same thing I’ve said.
Here is the exact quote: How is PvE, PvP tooltip separation coming along?
We couldn’t update it in the end.
When continuing to make contents, since Elsword is an old game, doing the base work is much more difficult than newer games. This is because it takes longer to get from base job to setting job.
But we’ll continue to try our best to keep our promise.
So it KOG has taken it into consideration of doing so. If you also look at some of the recent balance changes certain skills have changes in PVP and PVE separately. So…
They should make fixes to PvP while not bothering PvE because of the fixes :I
WEEEEEEEEEE MM GOT NERFED AGAIN JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I COULD USE PHANTOM SEEKER IN PVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Kog stop nerfing because of pvp its just making heroic modes harder for me
CN is back to getting nerfed i see.
Really you nerfed my Injection Buster, one if the only good heavy hitting skills that mattered and basically kept CrA alive when she was “rebalanced” after renewals? And even now?
Yeah, OK. CrA was fine where she was and you’re steady fucking
with my class*
IKR SERIOUSLY HOW THE FCK AM I GOING TO PLAY CrA IN PVE NOW. THEY SHOULD JUST ADD A PVP MODIFIER IF IT TROUBLED PVP THAT MUCH LIKE WTF.
Well, at the end of the day the important part is that Aisha and Ara were untouched. (Critical skills aside.)
aisha has been the most nerfed character tho
Yes. And yet they didn’t nerf her this time around (Critical skills aside.) even though it’s one of their favorite pastimes.
Critical trait reduced for PvE… that is not good ‘ ^ ‘
but for PvP.. its needed
They don’t fckin know how to balance PVP WITHOUT FCKING RUINING PVE. this is becoming more p2w than ever before
all these cancerous comments from skrubs who don’t know what balance is lol
as if the company knows what it means either anyway lol
OH YEAH BABY NERF NERF NERF MORE NERF ALL MY BELOVED AND BEHATED CHARACTERS AND TURN US ALL INTO PANCAKES DiE’s GONNA DELETE THE WORLD SOON ANYWAY, SO WHY NOT?!
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LETS GET HIGH
Still waitng for that RF nerf….and that Rose deletion…
And the Ara nerf now that I think about it.
No! No Ara nerfs!
Hasn’t she suffered enough already?
When her jump Z dies it will be enough(?)
just missing the nerf to DC and rose
Finally kog did something good. its funny to see ppl crying about it but then you all abused of it so there’s your nerf. mostly critical trait deserved it
lick them boots a bit harder, you don’t have rubber on your tongue from it yet.
KOG is retarded.
I’m good.
Oh for gods sake, GrM already does +7 dmg with a +11; why does she need more nerfs, shes already a dead class.. Hell if I see one every 100 matches in arena; if that.
lol
She was the one that was one combo killing others with just a +10 weapon before the power creep got even more ridiculous than it is right now with Transcendence, raid weapons and especially the Void weapon. And you mean to tell me she just magically got weaker even though they’re only NOW giving her real direct nerfs after all this time and not just token nerfs that mean very little to make it look like they’re nerfing her too when they really weren’t?
Please.
…..Now if you were talking about PVE and for some mentioned worked in an unrelated PVP comment towards the end, then yeah. You’re right. GM has always been in that weird place with WS where they suck in PVE but dominate PVP.
She is so useful in pvp is really strong, high defense and mobility and now party passives, she just need a pve buff thats all
Wind sneaker is trash for PVE since beggining, and now Elsword made her trash tier for arena too. GIVE HER SOME CATCHING SKILL OR COMBO PLZ
I’m aware you can one shot people in PvP with Ejection buster
But does KoG even bother thinking about putting a drastic PvP modifier instead of half gutting one of her few skills that redeems her otherwise lackluster PvE game?
imo KoG nerfed the wrong class.
Simplest pvp balance:
-fix le freeze frames such that special actives are not auto-catch when used (now players will be forced to put special acitves in their combos not just for cheap catching)
-why not do the same with awakening(now cheap catching is cut in half)
-put damage decay in successive hits in pvp (like they did with add’s nasod armor combo but not that ridiculously high)
-disable all mp regen in pvp (except for mp gain from attacking or attacked )and remove aisha and rena’s charging stance in pvp (now running will not be that effective)
-all skills with homing capabilities are disabled in pvp (rip magic missiles, guided arrows etc.)
-return all things with invulnerability frames to the way it is (e.g. dodge and slash more like tank and slash)
-fix KD computation (seriously it is 2016 already and its like we are playing a 1996 fighting game cause of too much infinite/semi-inifinte combos)
-do ur balance patches that wont affect pve
Oh forgot one thing: also… retarded hitboxes
getting tired with this nerfs please stop
PVE: Critical Trait nerf too bad for players
PVP: Every class that depends on the critical trait to one shot the opponet really good.
I dont understand why for PVE they decrease from 100% to 50% and with that the adjust for pvp is 25%, why not to decrease that amount for pvp to 10% or 5% and leave the trait 100% for the pve.
They really need to create different systems for PvE and PvP
Why are they nerfing MM for he seems balance imo.
I guess the Add hate still there…
So they can say they’re nerfing Add without nerfing DE.
DE is Elsword’s life support. They piss off the DE players, it’s the end.
he’s Kr’s life support yes
While you’re at it why not just make all skills disabled and make all Z attacks similar to Aisha and all X attacks similar to elboi.
Now that’s freaking balance.
Are you high? MP charge is there since those classes have relatively weak combos or normal attacks so it’s justified. Unless they have some combos like Aras and Ravens or etc then that MP charge should remain. Plus, when the heck are they going to buff Aisha’s X? Those fireballs don’t only cost a lot of MP but are freaking slow and weak.