<Eclipse Title Becoming Unobtainable>
- Cannot unlock title after
– 2017 09 14 Maintenance
- Cannot obtain title after
– 2017 10 19 Maintenance
<Eclipse Title Becoming Unobtainable>
– 2017 09 14 Maintenance
– 2017 10 19 Maintenance
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I don’t even get why the fuck they do this shit.
What’s the point of making these titles unavailable instead of letting anyone who wants them grind for whichever endgame title they want? (Especially considering Reaper got nerfed after the fact.) They help extend the life of the game since different titles benefit different classes to different extents.
Eh. KOG is gonna KOG.
Then the next unobtainable will be the most OP title in elrianode
This is one of the really rare instances where I agree with you. It’s unfair to players who weren’t even able to get the title before they became unobtainable.
I never thought that I would agree with you… I mean, I regret not getting OoR so yah :U
Making game to be active
The point of removing titles is to prevent people from getting an easy pass through them just by waiting for power creep to make the dungeon easier and faster. Think about how hard it was to get reaper years ago. Now think about how easy it would be to get now. Without removing the title, the process to obtain these things would be:
Wait for the title to be released
Try the dungeon out, decide you’re too lazy/impatient
Wait for years of power creep
Blaze through the dungeon now that it only takes two minutes to clear
And because that’s not how it actually works, the actual title process is as follows
Wait for the title to be released
Try the dungeon out, decide you’re too lazy/impatient
Suck it up.
Removing the title also lets the people who obtained said titles have a symbol of accomplishment and hard work. If reaper was still obtainable, the title wouldn’t mean anything in terms of the sense of achievement (though it’s still applicable to achievement points). But because it was removed, everyone who has the title now knows that they got it the hard way – which is also, thankfully, the only way.
titles shouldnt even be OP in the first place :[ they should only be somewat useful for a little stat boost not some shit absurd like Reaper or Oath of Ruin tbh :[
Agreed. Sure, some titles are more useful than others, but the more useful ones are in later areas or from dungeons with level scaling, so they’re naturally harder to obtain anyway, but no title should be overpowered to the point where it can double your character’s potential.
you said eclipse is op while BM, CR and etc can escape combo without this title
How does that debunk his point?
and tbh those cool effects should be put in endgame armor sets not the titles bullshit :[ Elsword is the only game i’ve seen add ridiculously OP stats to the title :[ if u want those effect just fucking shove them in to armor set effects cuz most armor set in this damn game now are just redundant stats boost why not distribute them into armor sets accordingly and give players choices of waepon and armors
It was never hard to get Reaper. It was just incredibly tedious. And KR had that laser motorcycle mount at the time while NA didn’t, meaning the KR players with their better events + mount access were clearing 8-6 really quickly. (Since the main things that dragged the stage out were the high HP objects that spawn enemies.)
Besides, weren’t people already clearing 9-6 in 2 minutes when it was new?
Oh, so you mean the players that had all the money and time in the world as opposed to us who had things like SCHOOL or JOBS at the time?!
actually the accomplishment is in the fact that you got a title that took so long to get…
there’s only more satisfaction if you got it before it was removed….
still, it does completely say “fuck you” to newer players as they will either have little time to earn the title, or be completely screwed out of it….
and there’s also the fact that despite how OP a title is, they could always nerf it… it still doesn’t change the fact that you still need tons of runs to get the title in the first place and not everyone has the patience for that…
plus, we can all agree that the void weapon is stupidly overpowered, but KOG is making no means to remove that… but they limited the infinite stamina days as a response… instead of just making the weapon weaker. and who’s to say that class nerfs wasn’t part of the reason, cause nearly all classes took a PvE nerf not long after the weapon came out, but we eventually got some of it back when KOG realized that was a mistake
removing the ability to get said title doesn’t truly help cause those that got it will still use it anyway…. take it from someone that never took Oath of Ruin off after earning it. that title is still stupidly broken and removes the need to socket critical on top of that (making socketing much easier as a result)
sure power creep is a thing, but by that same point you brought up, i don’t see KOG trying to remove the speed run titles from Sander and Lanox, which are quite possible to do… even solo if done right… and those titles give quite a noticeable jump in the stats they have….
in fact, that removal thing is why so many raid weapon users got pissed at KOG for bringing a more powerful legend weapon in the mix… if you’re gonna remove something cause it was “too powerful” then toss something else that’s equal or grater in terms of power, seems a bit redundant don’t you think?
sorry for dragging this out, but i kinda had to explain my reasoning behind my thoughts… (plus i’m not surprised if this makes a youtube vid….)
Speaking of wait weapons, why have people not realized that Heroic Weapons have the potential to be even better than Raid weapons?
Apo-Void gets all the hate for doing something Heroic weapons already did: overpowering Raid weapons while being available all the time.
“Wait” weapon?! I meant raid >_>
If that is the reason, there is a kind of solution: limit the title acquisition to lv X or lower players.
How would that fix anything?
dubico that would only cause people to waste time, remember lvling up dungeon farming is still quite fast, so you would lvl out of the acquistion range before you notice, if they add a lvl up lock mechanic that could work, but i would say they could just make that title acquisition change to be on heroic version when you have it unlock, since that wouldn’t need a lvl up lock mechanic to work
PS: still wouldn’t be worth it in the next patch theres gonna be a new endgame title anyway, and it doesn’t even mess with the achivement system if they remove them, cos thoes titles aren’t even counted for the achivement, you need about every single title but not the one they remove so it doesn’t matter
thanks to actually giving a good answer to why they remove it, never though of that
That’s interesting.
Why is Commander’s Dignity still around? Is it because it didn’t end up being meta? So Kog decided not to remove it?
to be honest the title it self doesn’t look desing to be meta in anyway, Eclipse it self seem more usefull pvp only too
Oh look, KOG is preparing to release another dungeon with another broken title. Boy I can’t wait.
well, this title cannot be obtained anyway by +9 gears
Nah, it can, +9 void weapon here and i have the title, it’s not that hard
“Void Weapon” You mean the best weapon in the game? The one that’s obtained from the same dungeon with the BS Berauks that drain all your HP and MP in just a few seconds, making it difficult to obtain?
Flare Kyn to be honest berauks is more anoying if you have good coordination, freazing skills or a light 3 weapon help too
TheMuffenMan you literally just said “its not that hard with a semi-OP weapon”, thats not a good point to make
the dungeon it self isn’t that hard, is just the requirements that are the somewhat dificult part
WHYYYY ARE ARE THEY DOING THIS??
Cause we’re probably gonna get a new meta title in a few weeks anyways. Why is anybody surprised by this? Really?
and it isn’t like OoR lvls of strengh even, for me it doesn’t really even seem worth it
Why couldn’t they give us 3 months in advance. Now i have to panic run.
They gave you a month. They aren’t removing it this update. You still have some time.
Start working now. If you haven’t even started working on it, you have nobody to blame but yourself for putting it off.
welp
I don’t get why this title should be OP. HP recovery? Well, Colossus Liberator has it too. Solace’s tracking swords? IMO Reaper, Dancing Flame Weapon or Grim Gaze are better for that type of proc attacks. The resurrection thing? Maybe the only OP one for me, but as I’m main YR I don’t really care that much.
Anyway I’m not going for this. Enough of me having Reaper on my AS and 4 chars with OoR
Eplipse is really just free manabreaks and a last ditch counter attack in PvP. It really isn’t much of an offensive title. Much more a defensive one. Also pretty much gives you a free 1-up something that would kill you in PvE.
actually, the fact that it gives you a res is why it should stay…
only some classes having access to that shit is kinda unfair
That only classes with res passives are WS and YR. DE if you count Seal of Time, but that can easily be worked around. Even then, YR does require good orb management to even kick in.
Not to mention Eclipse doesn’t just let you survive, it just straight up gives you invincibility upon reaching 0 HP, meaning it is specifically designed for last ditch reversals in PvP.
kind of unfair but its still part of chrs uniqueness, some have ress(one of them is a party ress, and a CD lowering skill), some have block chances, and other have deffencive modes(Eve’s and Raven’s nasod cores, Add’s nasod armor block(which can tank a one shot in normal dungeons, LP’s one can even tank bug out hit from enemies that are frosen), and stoic which can also tank one shots one normal dungeons(unless it gets hit by a really high multihit)), it is kind of unfair but remember the disadvantages of a chr before you talk about the advantages of them
I’m more in favor of shadow’s descent
i’ll just stay with the MP title for CBS, and the el tower title for the rest
eclipse is lame anw, I prefer the destiny tittle that give 5% attack
but such effect exist on new region soo :(