8/24 Balance Patch Notes
[Shared]
| Before | After | |
| Element Resistance | ||
| Can resist Attribute Debuff Maximum 100% | Can resist Attribute Debuff Maximum 80% | |
| Blaze Attribute | ||
| Blaze – Stage 1: 120%, Stage 2: 180%, Stage 3: 240%Blaze II – Stage 1: 240%, Stage 2: 360%, Stage 3: 480%Blaze III – Stage 1: 360%, Stage 2: 540%, Stage 3: 720% Blaze IV |
Blaze Attribute’s damage changed
Blaze Blaze II Blaze III Blaze IV |
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| Poison Attribute | ||
| Poison – Stage 1: 50%, Stage 2: 75%, Stage 3: 100%Poison II – Stage 1: 100%, Stage 2: 150%, Stage 3: 200%Poison III – Stage 1: 150%, Stage 2: 225%, Stage 3: 300% Poison IV |
Poison Attribute’s damage changed
Poison Poison II Poison III Poison IV |
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| PvP Matching |
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| – | Matched with players with similar skill level | |
| Title : Eclipse |
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| 5% Chance of geting knocked down when hit (Doesn’t activate again for 30s after activation)(PvP) |
5% Chance of 3s 100% receieved Damage Decrease (Doesn’t activate again for 30s after activation)(PvP) |
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[Elsword]
| Before | After | |
| Sword Knight | Vitality | |
| MP gain Increase : 5.5% MP gain Increase : 7% MP gain Increase : 8.5% MP gain Increase : 10% |
Added damage increase to vitality Special Active effect
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| Rune Slayer | Triple Saber | |
| – Gigantic size 130%. | Black hole range Decreased
Regenerating(1) |
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| Magic Chain |
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| Activation Chance : 10%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -15%, Duration : 6s Activation Chance : 10%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -20%, Duration : 6s Activation Chance : 10%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -25%, Duration : 6s Activation Chance : 10%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -30%, Duration : 6s |
Activation Chance : 20%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -15%, Duration : 6s Activation Chance : 20%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -20%, Duration : 6s Activation Chance : 20%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -25%, Duration : 6s Activation Chance : 20%, MagicalDefense Decrease : -30%, Duration : 6s |
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[Aisha]
| Before | After | |
| Aisha | Gust Storm | |
| [Dungeon] 바깥 불기둥(Magical) : 461% Multi hit 중앙 불기둥(Magical) : 416% Multi hit [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 바깥 불기둥(Magical) : 241% Multi hit 중앙 불기둥(Magical) : 296% Multi hit [PvP] |
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| Elemental Master | Elemental Body |
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| Magical Defense Increase : 40%
[Mana Shield] |
Magical Defense Increase removed
[Mana Shield] |
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| Dimension Witch | Energetic Body |
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| Physical Damage Increase : 10% Physical Defense Increase : 25% MP gain Increase : 20% Recieved Damage Increase : 20% |
Physical Defense Increase removed
Physical Damage Increase : 15% |
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[Rena]
| Before | After | |
| Rena | Back Tumbling Shot | |
| Haste trait – Cooldown 80% |
Regenerating (2) – 20% Chance of Cooldown 0% |
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| Wind Sneaker | Flexible Body |
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| Time needed for HP Recovery: 30s
Attack Speed Increase: 2%, Per second HP Recovery rate: 0.1% |
Time needed for HP Recovery: 10s
Attack Speed Increase: 1%, Per second HP Recovery rate: 0.2% |
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| Grand Archer | Nature’s Sense | |
| MP recovery rate Increase : 6%, Max MP Increase : 55, Per second MP Recovery rate : +2 MP recovery rate Increase : 9%, Max MP Increase : 70, Per second MP Recovery rate : +3 MP recovery rate Increase : 12%, Max MP Increase : 85, Per second MP Recovery rate : +5 MP recovery rate Increase : 15%, Max MP Increase : 100, Per second MP Recovery rate : +7 |
[Dungeon] MP recovery rate Increase : 6%, Max MP Increase : 55, Per second MP Recovery rate : +2 MP recovery rate Increase : 9%, Max MP Increase : 70, Per second MP Recovery rate : +4 MP recovery rate Increase : 12%, Max MP Increase : 85, Per second MP Recovery rate : +6 MP recovery rate Increase : 15%, Max MP Increase : 100, Per second MP Recovery rate : +8 [PvP] |
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[Raven]
| Before | After | |
| Reckless Fist | Subliminal Rage |
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| [Dungeon] MagicalDamage Increase : 2.5%, Awakening Charge Increase : 4%, Awakening Decrease : -30% MagicalDamage Increase : 5%, Awakening Charge Increase : 8%, Awakening Decrease : -30% MagicalDamage Increase : 7.5%, Awakening Charge Increase : 12%, Awakening Decrease : -30% MagicalDamage Increase : 10%, Awakening Charge Increase : 16%, Awakening Decrease : -30% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] MagicalDamage Increase : 4%, Awakening Charge Increase : 4%, Awakening Decrease : 30% MagicalDamage Increase : 6%, Awakening Charge Increase : 8%, Awakening Decrease : 30% MagicalDamage Increase : 8%, Awakening Charge Increase : 12%, AwakeningDecrease : 30% MagicalDamage Increase : 10%, Awakening Charge Increase : 16%, Awakening Decrease : 30% [PvP] |
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| Refined Physique | ||
| [Dungeon] Damage Decrease : 3%, MP gain when hit Increase : 4%, when hit Awakening Charge Increase : 4% Damage Decrease : 4 MP gain when hit Increase : 6%, when hit Awakening Charge Increase : 6% Damage Decrease : 5%, MP gain when hit Increase : 8%, when hit Awakening Charge Increase : 8% Damage Decrease : 6%, MP gain when hit Increase : 10%, when hit Awakening Charge Increase : 10% [PvP] |
MP gain change, Awakening Charge Increase changed to when hitting
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| Weapon Taker | Veteran | |
| Damage Increase : 2.5%, KD reduction : 9%, MPRecovery rate : 15 Damage Increase : 5%, KD reduction : 18%, MPRecovery rate : 20 Damage Increase : 7.5%, KD reduction : 27%, MPRecovery rate : 25 Damage Increase : 10%, KD reduction : 36%, MPRecovery rate : 30 |
[Dungeon] Damage Increase : 22.5%, KD reduction : 9%, MPRecovery rate : 15 Damage Increase : 25%, KD reduction : 18%, MPRecovery rate : 20 Damage Increase : 27.5%, KD reduction : 27%, MPRecovery rate : 25 Damage Increase : 30%, KD reduction : 36%, MPRecovery rate : 30 [PvP] |
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| Mercenary Behavior | ||
| When HP is below 12.5% No Overheat Damage Overheat Damage Decrease : 67.5% (PvP 12.5%) When HP is below 15% No Overheat Damage Overheat Damage Decrease : 70% (PvP 25%) When HP is below 17.5% No Overheat Damage Overheat Damage Decrease : 72.5% (PvP 27.5%) When HP is below 20% No Overheat Damage Overheat Damage Decrease : 75% (PvP 30%) |
[Dungeon] When HP is below 28% No Overheat Damage, Overheat Damage Decrease : 67.5% When HP is below 32% No Overheat Damage, Overheat Damage Decrease : 70% When HP is below 36% No Overheat Damage, Overheat Damage Decrease : 72.5% When HP is below 40% No Overheat Damage, Overheat Damage Decrease : 75% [PvP] |
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[Eve]
| Before | After |
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| Eve | Dash X Command | |
| – | KD Increased. | |
| Code:Nemesis | Atomic Shield | |
| – | Delay time Decreased Movement cancel time Decreased |
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| Code: Battle Seraph |
Final Strike | |
| Heavy Trait – Damage 140% , Cooldown도150% |
Regenerating (2) – 25% Chance of Cooldown 50% |
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| Linear Divider | ||
| [Dungeon] 빔 공격(Magical) : (Pass through field) 244% Multi hit (Awakening : 312%) [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 빔 공격(Magical) : (Pass through field)) 182% Multi hit (Awakening : 233%) [PvP] |
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[Chung]
| Before | After | |
| Iron Paladin | Rapid Guardian |
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| Reversed – Resource Cost 60% Cooldown 150% |
Gigantic -Range 120% Increase |
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| Deadly Chaser | Intense Showtime | |
| Berserker Mode MP cost : -15%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown : -30% Berserker Mode MP cost : -20%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown : -35% Berserker Mode MP cost : -25%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown : -40% Berserker Mode MP cost : -30%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown : -45% |
[Dungeon] Berserker Mode MP cost Decrease : 10%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown time Decrease : 20% Berserker Mode MP cost Decrease : 20%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown time Decrease : 30% Berserker Mode MP cost Decrease : 30%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown time Decrease : 40% Berserker Mode MP cost Decrease : 40%, Berserker Mode Skill Cooldown time Decrease : 50% [PvP] |
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| Tactical Trooper | Reaction Gloves | |
| Damage Decrease : 2.5% ×Awakening stage Damage Decrease : 5% ×Awakening stage Damage Decrease : 7.5% ×Awakening stage Damage Decrease : 10% ×Awakening stage |
[Dungeon] Damage Decrease : 4% ×Awakening stage Damage Decrease : 6% ×Awakening stage Damage Decrease : 8% ×Awakening stage Damage Decrease : 10% ×Awakening stage [PvP] |
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[Ara]
| Before |
After |
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| Ara | Exorcism Stance 3: Shadoweave | |
| [Dungeon] 그림자 엮기(Physical) : 479% Multi hit 그림자 베기(Physical) : 1031% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 그림자 엮기(Physical) : 638% Multi hit 그림자 베기(Physical) : 1031% [PvP] |
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| Wolf Stance 2: Wind Wedge | ||
| [Dungeon] 연속 찌르기(Physical) : 423% ×3 깊게 찌르기(Physical) : 469% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 연속 찌르기(Physical) : 564% ×3 깊게 찌르기(Physical) : 469% [PvP] |
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| Dragon Stance 2: Pulling Thrust | ||
| [Dungeon] 꿰기(Physical) : 1223% 당기기(Physical) : 449% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 꿰기(Physical) : 1629% 당기기(Physical) : 449% [PvP] |
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| Little Hsien | Tiger Stance 1: Rock Smash | |
| [Dungeon] 떠밀기(Physical) : 133% Multi hit 충격파(Physical) : 233% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 떠밀기(Physical) : 171% Multi hit 충격파(Physical) : 260% [PvP] |
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| Tiger Stance 2: Tiger Claw | ||
| [Dungeon] 전진베기(Physical) : 670% 돌려베기(Physical) : 193% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 전진베기(Physical) : 862% 돌려베기(Physical) : 216% [PvP] |
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| Dragon Stance 3: Eight Trigram Palm | ||
| [Dungeon] 폭장(Physical) : 913% 팔괘장(Physical) : 325% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 폭장(Physical) : 1175% 팔괘장(Physical) : 365% [PvP] |
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| Sakra Devanam | Tiger Stance 3: Earth Axis | |
| [Dungeon] 하단베기(Physical) : 992% 걷어차기(Physical) : 249% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 하단베기(Physical) : 1241% 걷어차기(Physical) : 311% [PvP] |
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| Tiger Stance 4: Raging Wave | ||
| [Dungeon] 바닥 긁기(Physical) : 123% Multi hit 바닥 엎기(Physical) : 518% [Tiger Art]
[PvP]
[Tiger Art] |
[Dungeon] 바닥 긁기(Physical) : 153% Multi hit 바닥 엎기(Physical) : 649% [Tiger Art]
[PvP]
[Tiger Art] |
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| Little Devil | Rakshasa Stance 1: Soul Reaping | |
| [Dungeon] 던지기(Magical) : 1229% 받기(Magical) : 553% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 던지기(Magical) : 1580% 받기(Magical) : 622% [PvP] |
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| Rakshasa Stance 3: Spear Prison | ||
| [Dungeon] Force Spear(Magical) : 239% Multi hit 마지막 Force Spear(Magical) : 604% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] Force Spear(Magical) : 307% Multi hit Force Spear(Magical) : 679% [PvP] |
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| Wolf Stance 3: Wolf Claw | ||
| [Dungeon] 연속 베기(Physical) : 100% ×2 충격파(Physical) : 384% 올려 베기(Physical) : 163% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 연속 베기(Physical) : 144% ×2 충격파(Physical) : 463% 올려 베기(Physical) : 184% [PvP] |
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| Wolf Stance 4: Wolf Fang | ||
| [Dungeon] Force Spear(Magical) : 449% Multi hit Force Spear(Magical) : 408% [Wolf Art]
[PvP]
[Wolf Art] |
[Dungeon] Force Spear(Magical) : 578% Multi hit Force Spear(Magical) : 459% [Wolf Art]
[PvP]
[Wolf Art] |
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| Yama Raja | Absorption Nova | |
| Tough – Super Armor, Cooldown 150% Increase |
Empowered Damage 120% |
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| Rakshasa Stance 2: Energy Blast | ||
| [Dungeon] 기탄(Magical) : 640% ×3 마지막 기탄(Magical) : 532% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 기탄(Magical) : 800% ×3 마지막 기탄(Magical) : 664% [PvP] |
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| Rakshasa Stance 4: Soul Escape | ||
| [Dungeon] 분신(Magical) : 2118% 혼 폭발(Magical) : 728% [Rakshasa Art] 연옥(Magical) : 1322% Multi hit [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 분신(Magical) : 2647% 혼 폭발(Magical) : 910% [Rakshasa Art] 연옥(Magical) : 1322% Multi hit [PvP] |
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| Little Specter | Exorcism Stance 2: Specter Restraints | |
| [Dungeon] 긁기(Physical) : 783% – Energy consume : 783% + (262% ×1~3) 가르기(Physical) : 451% – Energy 소모 시 : 451% + (151% ×1~3) [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 긁기(Physical) : 1006% – Energy consume : 1006% + (336% ×1~3) 가르기(Physical) : 508% – Energy 소모 시 : 508% + (170% ×1~3) [PvP] |
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| Phantom Fox Stance 1: Savor | ||
| [Dungeon] 할퀴기(Physical) : 331% ×2 – Energy consume : 662% ×2 날리기(Physical) : 46% Multi hit – Energy 소모 시 : 91% Multi hit [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 할퀴기(Physical) : 426% ×2 – Energy consume : 851% ×2 날리기(Physical) : 51% Multi hit – Energy consume : 103% Multi hit [PvP] |
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| Phantom Fox Stance 2: Discordance | ||
| [Dungeon] 할퀴기(Physical) : 371% ×2 – Energy consume : 648% ×2 날리기(Physical) : 211% – Energy consume : 371% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 할퀴기(Physical) : 476% ×2 – Energy consume : 834% ×2 날리기(Physical) : 238% – Energy consume : 417% [PvP] |
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| Asura | Phantom Fox Stance 3: Rapid Raid | |
| [Dungeon] 습격(Physical) : 192% Multi hit – Energy 소모 시 : 384% Multi hit 쳐내기(Physical) : 48% Multi hit – Energy 소모 시 : 96% Multi hit [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 습격(Physical) : 240% Multi hit – Energy 소모 시 : 480% Multi hit 쳐내기(Physical) : 48% Multi hit – Energy 소모 시 : 96% Multi hit [PvP] |
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| Phantom Fox Stance 4: Fox’s Meal | ||
| [Dungeon] 거두기(Physical) : 308% Multi hit 쳐내기(Physical) : 499% [Phantom Fox Art] 분쇄(Physical) : 352% Multi hit [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 거두기(Physical) : 385% Multi hit 쳐내기(Physical) : 624% [Phantom Fox Art] 분쇄(Physical) : 352% Multi hit [PvP] |
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[Elesis]
| Before |
After |
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| Saber Knight | Knight’s Destiny | |
| Guardian Sword – When party member is below 50% HP(except in fields) – Damage +2.5% Guardian Sword – When party member is below 50% HP(except in fields) – Damage +5% Guardian Sword – When party member is below 50% HP(except in fields) – Damage +7.5% Guardian Sword – When party member is below 50% HP(except in fields) – Damage +10% |
Steel Body effect calculation changed
[Dungeon]
[PvP] – Damage +2.5% – Damage +5% – Damage +7.5% – Damage +10% |
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| Blazing Heart | Blaze Wing | |
| [Dungeon] 연속 타격(Magical) : 321% Multi hit first hit Additional damage(Magical) : 1443% [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 연속 타격(Magical) : 482% Multi hit first hit Additional damage(Magical) : 722% [PvP] |
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| Crimson Avenger | Blood Falls |
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| Heavy trait – Damage 140% IncreaseCooldown 150% |
Regenerating (2) Trait – 25% Chance of Cooldown 50% |
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[Add]
| Before |
After |
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| Diabolic Esper | Moonlight Rhapsody | |
| [Dungeon] 에스퍼 방출(Magical) : 1333% 랩소디 – stack 1(Magical) : 649% – stack 2회(Magical) : 907% – stack 3회(Magical) : 1185% – Duration : 24s [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 에스퍼 방출(Magical) : 1333% 랩소디 – stack 1(Magical) : 649% – stack 2회(Magical) : 907% – stack 3회(Magical) : 1185% – Duration : 24s [PvP] |
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[LuCiel]
| Before | After |
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| LuCiel | Stats display setting | |
| Use stat of current character | Can choose which stat to use in character UI: – Lu/Ciel Stat(Current character) – Lu stat – Ciel stat |
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| Noblesse | Magdonic Cannon | |
| [Dungeon] 폭발(Magical) : 1494% Multi hit 영혼 방출(Magical) : 73% Multi hit [PvP] |
[Dungeon] 폭발(Magical) : 466% Multi hit 영혼 방출(Magical) : 272% Multi hit [PvP] |
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[Rose]
| Before | After | |
| Storm Trooper | Lock-on Stratos | |
| Reversed – Resource Cost 60% Cooldown130% |
Persistent – KD 13 Decrease |
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| CrimsonRose | Bloody Action | |
| Chain Skill Damage Increase 6% Chain Skill Damage Increase 9% Chain Skill Damage Increase 12% Chain Skill Damage Increase 15% [Blood Carnival] |
[Dungeon] Chain Skill Damage Increase 8% Chain Skill Damage Increase 10% Chain Skill Damage Increase 12% Chain Skill Damage Increase 14%[Blood Carnival] – Physical Damage Increase : 1% – All speed Increase : 0.4% – Critical Chance Increase : 2%
[PvP]
[Blood Carnival] |
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| Saw Blade | ||
| All Defense Decrease 10% All Defense Decrease 15% All Defense Decrease 20% All Defense Decrease 25% |
[Dungeon] All Defense Decrease 10% All Defense Decrease 15% All Defense Decrease 20% All Defense Decrease 25% [PvP] |
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| Liberated Will : CrimsonRose | ||
| Physical Damage/Additional damage/Attack Speed Increase 0.5% | [Dungeon] Physical Damage/Additional damage/Attack Speed Increase 0.6% [PvP] |
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[Ain]
| Before | After | |
| Arme Thaumaturgy | Erst der Letzt | |
| – | hitbox revamped | |
| Erbluhen Emotion | Satz Aurora | |
| Heavy – Damage 140% Cooldown 150% |
Regenerating(2) – 25% Chance of Cooldown 50% |
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“Can resist Attribute Debuff Maximum 80%”
Dammit, KoG! The hell were you thinking?!
They were thinking that skills with Stun need to not be worse than useless in PvP.
No one wants to be punished for hitting properly with a skill because their target had 450-499 Light resistance and they didn’t know it, and no one likes only having one usable damaging 100 MP-tier skill either (like DW has).
Not to mention that the concept of complete resistance to an element (and any related status effect, like Stun, Bleed, Slow, Curse, etc.) is actually stupid and makes balancing some things unnecessarily difficult.
there was a simpler way: remove stun and bleed from the list of attribute affected status and reduce their duration times on pvp…
or at least make the 80% resistance a PVP only thing
I agree with that, being immune to some elements in PvE save lifes…
PvE players get nerfed only for PvP player’s sake…
Removing those status effects from resistance would be going back on a balance decision that did not have a bad intention, when the main problem with that decision was only that you could resist those status effects by nearly 100%. And reducing Stun times in PvP when Stun doesn’t even really do anything in PvE seems kind of stupid.
Also, complete resistance isn’t just stupid in PvP, it’s a stupid concept in general, and having overpowered elemental effects in PvE doesn’t change that (though those overpowered effects could use a nerf).
Ugh… they could have at least nerfed Poison’s speed reduction. That shit is fucking bull.
Is the Luciel change just a stat display feature? Or can you use the stats of just 1 character now?
For luciel you apply the stats of either lu or ciel to the character as a whole so now you don’t need to double fund them in order to be on par with everyone.
WOW NO MATE
It’s just a UI change, you can see lu or ciel stats without having to change your character
Only Lu stat, only Ciel stat, or you can keep them separate like it currently it. Basically you don’t have to double fund Lu/Ciel anymore, but you still can if you want them to have individual builds.
“Stats display setting”
DISPLAY setting. Meaning it’s not the actual stats, it’s just a way to see your other char’s stats without having to swap between them.
Hmm are you sure? From after:
Can choose which stat to USE in character UI:
– Lu/Ciel Stat(Current character)
– Lu stat
– Ciel stat
Note how is say “USE” not display, not view. USE. If something is being shown, you aren’t using it. Also note how in the new version there is 3 options, if it was simply a display function which simply allowed you to toggle whose stats you’re seeing, that is literally almost no different than it is now and the 3rd option of keeping it as it would be near pointless.
Yeah, it does say use… in character display, which could mean the DISPLAY is using them.
Sure, you’re not wrong, but it doesn’t really debunk what I’m saying.
so luciel gets an absolutely useless feature or is it just mistranslation?
You can have good sockets on lu but shit on ciel and lock lu stats on both chars. So it’s really good if you don’t want to waste time and money.
Nope, LuCiel stats aren’t changed at all.
It’s only useless if you already have both Lu and Ciel completely funded. The feature makes it so you can have one character’s stats count as both characters. So you only need to fund one of the duo and they will both benefit from it. Or you can keep it as is and have them both individually funded.
Why do people keep getting this wrong?!
Why useless? The change means you only need to gear one side and the stats get shared even when you switch.
Seriously, have you all caught Endgamme syndrome?
Flare pls.
대표 스탯 설정 = ‘Representative’ Stat Setting. Not sure why 2na went with Display for the translation; but it oesn’t refer to the UI display whatsoever; It means that the stats used to represent your character in general can now be chosen between both seperately; only lu; or only ciel.
If it was just a display settng, it wouldn’t even…do anything? Like how would the stats even show? You already switch between Lu and Ciel in town with the star UI icon, did you think being on Ciel would just show Lu’s stats visually then? Meaning the game would be showing you the wrong stats?
And I’m not even sure what you mean with Endgame syndrome; I dont see anyone crying about elesis/ara/add Kappa.
Representative? That doesn’t automatically mean that. Besides, 2na is Korean, as well as very fluid in English, so I highly doubt he’d make such a mistake, unless it was changed after the fact.
“And I’m not even sure what you mean with Endgame syndrome” It’s an exaggerated joke >_>
I’m well aware 2na is fluent in English and lives in Korea, but that doesn’t mean he can’t make mistakes; The fact remains that the word used does not mean display as in the screen’s UI. It actually refers to someone or something that represents a bigger whole (it’s used for leaders of various groups even). Wether or not it does mean a UI only change you can’t tell from that alone no, that’s true.
However, then it splits into the ‘before’ and ‘after’ changes. We don’t have a stat switching UI at all right now, so if it was just that, that part would just be empty with a ‘ – ‘. Instead it says ‘Current character’s stats apply’. Which heavily implies the stats actually functioning on a character. The after then has Lu/Ciel, Lu and Ciel.
On top of that, this is a balance patch note, which never lists misc changes to UI; Those would appear in the ‘Other’ or ‘Character’ subsections of the full patchnotes, not a page like this. KoG is at least consistent with that.
@Flare Kyn
2nafish is also human and can make mistakes (such as how he missed translating that Iron Body – Strong couldn’t be used in hitstun from the last balance patch notes).
Considering that these are balance patch notes that have been released early, before the relevant patch notes, I don’t think that it would be very likely for a UI feature that doesn’t affect gameplay to be listed in these notes.
He missed that because that detail of Iron Body – Strong was updated AFTER he made the post and didn’t see the update!
“We don’t have a stat switching UI at all right now”
Don’t have a stat switching UI? Um… The UI shows the stats of the ACTIVE CHARACTER, so we actually kinda do.
“which never lists misc changes to UI”
To be fair, this is the first time that the character window specifically is being changed outside of removing/adding stats.
I made a mock up of what you think is going to happen with this patch just to make sure I even understand how you think it’ll work now; https://puu.sh/xelgo/eb5704fdb6.png
1: Lu/Ciel applies. Star button switches to the other character and also switches the stats to that character’s stats
2 and 3: Lu or Ciel applies. Star button switches to the other character but doesnt change to the character’s stats; essentially showing the wrong stats for that character then.
That seems to be what you think this change is going to be.
Now question yourself *why* this would ever be part of a balance patch update that never, *never* mentions mere UI QoL changes? Even the Skill Slot resizing or A-type slot removal was just a small mention in the full patch notes. Not to mention how completely pointless of a change that would be. In which world would you ever want to see the other character’s stats without switching to that character? That doesn’t even matter for dungeons by the way, that button will only switch the stats and show you the character in the U window, it wont switch the character like in towns.
And no, it’s not the first time they’ve changed the UI. The PvE/PvP buttons weren’t always there, and they’ve rearranged the stats a few times as well.
Look, I get that KoG makes silly changes sometimes, but they’re never truly pointless.
And again, the korean mentions nothing as far as UI is concerned (not “display” or anything)
Trust Eternal. If there is anybody the ElWiki staff trusts for general translations other than 2na, it’s him. The thing is definitely a mechanical change and not a UI one.
Then how about you link me to where the info came from so I can google translate it and see for myself?
Hit reply to the wrong comment >_>
Anyway, your mock-up is assuming it’s just the stats that would be visible, but what if it also allows you to change the costumes/accessories of that character without switching to them? Sure, it may technically be a useless change, but just because it’s useless doesn’t mean it’s bad.
“And no, it’s not the first time they’ve changed the UI. The PvE/PvP buttons weren’t always there, and they’ve rearranged the stats a few times as well.”
First off, I said CHARACTER MENU, NOT UI! Yes, I know the UI as a whole has been changed many times, but I’m not talking about the UI as a whole! Also, I said “outside of removing/adding stats”, and outside of stats being added/removed or general UI reworks, I don’t remember those rearrangements happening, but even then, those would apply for all characters while this is specifically for LuCiel.
You’re obnoxious geez
Just wait until Thursday so we can find out who is right
And I shall always laugh when there’s someone who is so wrong and an ass.
it is useless to main luciels, but for those who were averted from the character because of the need of having 2 of each thing, well, it is useful and appealing
I actually do quite well with LuCiels.
Believe it or not, them having two MP bars actually makes it a lot easier to use skills in succession. I’m almost always finding myself being able to fill up my Combination Cauge with two Strength skills and a Tenacity skill without using a single Z or X attack in between them.
Nerf aisha but buff elboy
“ DOWN WITH WATERMELON HEAD BOY
Elboy did nothing wrong
So have you guys heard about the tapeworm diet?
I hear it’s a growing thing.
why all the Ara damage buffs?
*secret art buffs
My guess is that they were buffed because they take a long time to activate yet they do less damage than equally costly skills, or something. For example Pulling Thrust did ~1200% for 100MP while Rail Stinger does ~2000% and Dimension Link Sentry does ~1750%. But Shadoweave will now hit as hard as a Bravery for 150MP.
*apparently Shadoweave IS a Bravery, just a low-cost one
*Sigh* Why do they even have Bravery skills that cost less MP than they should (excluding ones that take up all of a char’s unique resource, like LuCiel’s Combination Skills or Ara’s 10 Energy skills)?
ShadowWeave has “additional” resource consumption….
Then again those beads are quite easy to obtain…..
if only they had just retained it at 250MP, and made final enhanced as that 190MP….
Actually make 190Mp higher,perhaps 225? 10% dec should suffice….
They were only buffed in PvE, and got either minor buffs, nerfs, or just damage rearrangements in PvP. I don’t see any problems with that.
Because, as the game says, each orb represents 30 MP (even though it’s so much easier to get them), and Shadoweave’s default cost is 190 MP and 2 orbs (the [Enhanced] version makes it 40 MP cheaper).
As for the Secret Art skill buffs, it’s probably to compensate for the fact that Secret Arts no longer receive damage boosts for skill damage boosts on the final skill of the Secret Art.
I’m not just talking about Ara’s skills, though. Meteor Shower is a Bravery skill that only costs 150 (yes I know you can hold it to consume more MP and get more hits in, but still), and same goes to M-3 Flamethrower. Also, Energy Void costs 150MP and can be used without energy, so I’d count that as well.
Those are the ones I found with a quick look through the Bravery category page on elwiki. There might be others, but I’m not entirely sure.
Every orb counts as 30mp. That’s why 10 orb skills are considered as bravery and wind wedge as tenacity.
The game says that Tenacity is 0~150, so even if Wind Wedge didn’t consume orbs, it could realistically be a Tenacity skill. That being said,, literally 11 minutes before you posted that, I stated that I wasn’t just talking about Ara’s skills, but in general.
Yeah, sorry the messages weren’t being displayed so I didn’t know. They only appeared after I had already commented.
Ara Online incoming (jesus those buffs)
meh, they could at least buff energy wave and energy void on YR
Ara is finally getting the love she deserves~.
Considering that her stance skills are the least damaging in her kit dps wise because you can’t stack it with ERP + Gloves, the buff was very necessary. Ara was already bad at PvE and this is just making that problem less prominent.
Actually, the Secret Arts are in fact considered to be Special Actives, so ERP damage buffs should affect them, they just don’t have their own MP costs or cooldowns.
I happen to know this because I tested it myself with my SD by changing out the skill cut-ins and using them in Free Training. The Secret Arts always used the same cut-in as the part 4 skill, so the Secret Arts are considered to be the same type as the part 4 skill. They just activate automatically when the conditions are met.
Flare you really are a piece of work. ERP + Gloves is always in reference to stacking via % bonuses on specific sets. Strength ERP + Strength stacking gloves and so forth. Ara uses Bravery, so there’s no way that anyone other than Asura would consistently be rewarded for using the Stance skills over and over. Her main form of DPS unlike other characters is in the stances as well. Strength is not worth taking on Ara, therefore her stances suffered. These buffs are logical if we use that kind of reasoning. But you’re going with the assumption that the stances are rewarded the same no matter which ERP / gloves you took which is an obvious level of bs.
Um, except the Secret Arts are considered to be the same type of Special Active as the last skill used to initiate it?
The way I tested them was to first have Tenacity and Strength have a different cut-in than Bravery to narrow it down, and all of them used the one that I had set for Tenacity/Bravery, so then I changed Tenacity’s cut-in back to normal, and I found that they all used the same cut=in as the part 4 skill. Hsien’s Blast used the Strength cut-in, Sakra’s Fierce Tiger used the Tenacity cut-in, Devil’s Killing Howl used the Tenacity cut=in, Yama’s Purgatory used the Strength cut-in, Specter’s Night Parade of One Hundred Souls used the Strength cut-in, and Asura’s Pulverization used the Tenacity cut-in.
“But you’re going with the assumption that the stances are rewarded the same no matter which ERP / gloves you took which is an obvious level of bs.”
WHEN DAFUQ DID I SAY THAT?! My point was that Stances are considered the same type of Special Active as the Part 4 skill! Don’t misinterpret my words like that!
“Ara uses Bravery, so there’s no way that anyone other than Asura would consistently be rewarded for using the Stance skills over and over.”
… First off, everyone has Bravery skills, so it’s not like she’s unique in that regard. Second, you’re kinda not supposed to spam them. Sure, there are some that are easy to spam, but even Night Parade of One Hundred Souls, which I’d argue to be Ara’s best stance skill, launches opponents into the air, causing knockdown if you don’t have an ally that catches them right away.
“Actually, the Secret Arts are in fact considered to be Special Actives, so ERP damage buffs should affect them, they just don’t have their own MP costs or cooldowns.”
By saying this you really just ignore where the highest damage efficiency goes into the game. We stack damage based on skill cast due to Heroic gear meta (and now Elrianode) for the gloves, making one type of skill your best DPS. Ara’s best 300 MP is Shadoweave which every Ara class uses and is spammable, leading them to just stack Bravery skills for highest overall DPS.
The stance skills, which are of varying skill types, do not get a direct bonus from ERP stacking and Gloves, which are always going to require you to dump it into the skill type you’re intending to spam, since it’s multiplicative. Meaning, Yama Raja cannot just dump ERP into Strength tier, that’s a complete waste. Yama Raja specifically still uses Rakshasa Stance very often and it was not rewarding compared to other characters if you consider that she uses Bravery stacking for highest DPS.
Anyway not sure why I’m trying to explain what is essentially very obvious endgame information (everyone doing Heroic who is optimizing their gear already should know this stuff) to a casual like yourself. Probably because I don’t like seeing your naivete spread all over these comments. You should learn what I’m talking about when referring to ERP + gloves stacking before you spew out comments that miss the point of what I’m saying.
Or just give Party Add Damage +10% to Gloves. Already more useful than the “upon using X skill, increase X skill damage for 10 seconds” effects, as not only is it permanent, it also gives buffs to party members as well.
Oh, and it works for all skills and command attacks.
Also, I’ve got a pretty solid ERP build.
HO/MP, Element Proc, Tenacity, Flexibility, Strength, Bravery, MP Cost, Cooldown, ED, Item Drop, and Hyper. Everything but Hyper is maxed out.
Or are you saying you put points into the Attack/Defense effects? ‘Cause those effects just plain suck.
HP*
bullshit, you saying you are about lv600 at resonance at least to have all that maxed out; and also the party buffs are pants only, not gloves; just what are you talking about? do you even play the game?
Sorry, I meant my PLANNED build. Yeah, I’m obviously nowhere near 600 at this point, but it’s still something to work toward.
“and also the party buffs are pants only” For Heroic, yes, but… https://elwiki.net/w/Elrianode_Equipment
According to this page, Elrianode gloves CAN have the “Party Add Damage” effect.
Even if it’s just a plan, that ERP is absolutely unrealistic. Focus on 200 or something realistic.
HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THAT VC BUFF THE DAMAGE INCREASE HOLY SHIT GODS HAVE LISTENED HALLELUAH
Nice CBS nerfs :D nerf more pls :D
another salty player
Keep nerfing CBS, what’s do you think KOG?
cbs is clearly Op
scarcasom
Some element balances, but endgame bosses are still inmune to everything so i guess elements are useless in pve for another season
VC BUFFS?!?! GODS HAV LISTENED
Cmon keg, I’m still waiting for an acceptable damage increase and power stun for heavens fist pressure. 991% for a 200mp skill is still a nono.
MM’s trans skill force field is 200 mp and does 745%
But forcefield is a Buff type skill, so it’s justifiable.
KOG nerfs CBS and meanwhile Code Empress can do Type Void under 4 minutes with 13k damage. Sure.
Does anybody know why comments sometimes disappear only to appear again when you posted another one? It’s kinda annoying.
I think the browser is just loading the saved version of the page. Try spamming F5 next time.
brb job changing
Im okay with all of this tbh owo
Ok all left for LK is change the windslicer into useful stats passive xD
It is useful, though. Sure, you can’t control it, but it essentially increases both your damage output and MP recovery.
Well in INT wont be that useful due to lag =3=
well I’m here wishing they chance evacuation from BM into a stat passive
And plz buff warrior physique and counter patiance… and plz buff LK modifiers since he’s not really that tanky.. buff him again KOG :D
Rip fire ;-;
I see more nerf on CR .3.
Wutda??? Ara buff??? Are you serious, KOG? -_-
Stop buffing that piece of sh*t -_-
Hi Brancliff!
OK… Sometimes, idk why people keep saying that CBS “iz 2 broken xd “. Without gear, she’s nothing…
I can clear SD very fast with my +8 GA and FJ, but can’t clear that fast with +8 CBS. CBS’ MP gain is sh*t!! They nerfed her Noodles, and now Final Strike – her only 1 hit skill’s trait and her main damaging skill – Linear Divider…
Please… CBS needs a buff. If they wanna nerf her skill, then give her good command and good damage command.
Preach it buddy >__< Clearing dungeons with CBS is the biggest pain in the butt… I love her, but it gets on my nerves that I literally have to use half of my potions to survive hero dungeons.. And she is literally the only character I have these issues with… Whether it's the mana gain through skills or normal combo… it's the worst mana gain in the whole game… Henir Challenge? With a low levelled gear it's impossible.. These nerfes are only appropriate for Koreans that have plus 10 gear and higher.. If you don't believe me.. then promise.. play with her.. you will understand the struggle… And with Linear Divider getting this kind of nerf.. she is practically trash.. on of the most ruined classes…
smart na player
smart na player
so for noblesse, is the change to magadon cannon a nerf or a buff? cause i dont know how much the multi hit for it is…
Gosh that magdonic cannon nerf…
I cry
so what was the fucking point of the pvp/pve tooltip separation if pve player keep recieving nerf just for the sake of pvp player or just because some players go around with their +12 void weap…. this is so fucking stupid…..
Dw’s change is kinda bittersweet…
the defense increase on energetic is gone (so now it’s a flat 20% damage increase period), but it buffs your phys attack even more.
it honestly was fine where it was at but eh, we’ll see
Just nerf that betch to the point people give up in playing her please :>
DWs should be erased
Hail Hitler
sounds like you got corner raped by a DW’s impact zone huh?
No I’m just a DW player who is ashamed by fellow players :>
Who df dies to impact zone nowadays tbh, you can MB it easily and the effect doesnt even bother as you can still attack.
but the fact that you can’t move (and players using it WON’T LET YOU MOVE) means you can still get corner raped rather easy.
between screw drvier, impact zone, wormhole, distortion, and crazy worm, good luck getting out of your corner. made even worse if some elements are in effect which guess what… you can’t get immune to now!
and to put icing on the cake, that also means you can’t have full immunity to DW’s stun moves… all you can do is cut down the time they work, but it’ll still mean MB canceling easy and any smart DW player will be super armored before using those.
good luck
Even with my main being IS, who can not only remove that debuff and become immune to it for a few seconds using Iron Body, I agree that it’s a pretty BS debuff.
On the topic of debuff mitigation/immunity,
How does Sakra Devanam’s two passives interact?
Skill pages says that
Energy Activation reduces Debuff duration by 45% max, and Awajened will does too by 50% in full bead along with 200 resist…
Do they reduce 95% duration in total or something?
i’m honestly not sure on that since els isn’t too clear on what’s additive (in that case it’d be 45+50 to get 95%) or multiplicative (it’d be 0.55 times 0.5 to get 0.275 or 72.5% resistance).
els has math all over the place going in weird directions…. but given the logic they use half the time…. why question it?
Wait a sec… What exactly does “Can resist Attribute Debuff Maximum 80%” mean? Do we still have a 500 point limit with the amount of resist per point lowered, or is the limit reduced to 400 points?
The lowered resist thing, so at full resist (500) it would be 80% resistance against element, but not immunity like before balance
Oka, good. I was kind of afraid I’d have to remove one of my “100 resist to all attribute” effects from my build (believe it or not, I actually don’t like having all resist maxed out), but that won’t make me have to alter my build in any way.
Okay* Somehow the Y key didn’t register.
As this braindead change will affect PvE as well I hope that at least it works also for bosses with high resist status like Joakin or Hero bosses, if not we’ll be totally screwed up
yeah, that’d be kinda fucked up if they have 450 res and it still follows the old 100% scale…
but there are a few with a flat out immunity to everything.. i’m guessing it doesn’t come from res, but a built in skill instead
Today is Elesis’ birthday.
…..And Eclipse Day.
That can’t be a coincidence.
Irony. The Day of Black Sun on her birthday.
Nerf deadly chaser in pvp :( WHY. I GET he can use lots of moves in succession but how many people do you see playing dc especially at high levels… pretty sure he was fine before :( pve buff is nice but necessary
Because being able to spam more abilities when most other characters have had their passives for MP gain and such nerfed made him above the rest if he secured any form of a lead. Don’t really know KOG’s reasoning, but when you can’t get punished at all for casting Shooting Star over and over, there’s a problem.
lol even with that there are many characters that can out SA DC and i have near max spec A a ton of resonance on mp red and beserk hell even LK can out do me with fking vitality. to name a few, rena, ara, Elboy , lu,ciel the list goes on. granted it can be overkill on DC but its rare and again shooting star in pvp unless you do crazy damage is not viable it just feeds even with heavy besides you can mb it now so why are you complaining about that? the nerf was stupid and unnecessary, the pve buff was stupid and unecessary but ppl still wanna nerf dc? cause the small amount you do see in pvp are really that threatening? i mean if shooting star killed you they have the damage to kill you with other moves. only thing that i could agree is bullet blitz and even that is nerfed compared to guide arrow (wind blast finally got nerfed though but has better homing range still)… ppl keep wanting to nerf DC but the reasons are so dumb.in my opinion
Anyway, since today is Elesis’ birthday, it’s time to hate on that evil bitch!
Elesis is still, to date, the worst thing to ever happen to Elsword. (Especially the boy himself.) She may not be as overpowered as she used to be (And just got Iron Body – Strong fucked over for good.), but 3rd Jobs are coming and the story still reminds us that she’s the next El Lady. Things can change.
As long as Elesis still lives, Elsword can never improve.
Let us never forget Elesis’ crimes!
-Came in out of nowhere and completely eclipsed poor Ara’s AND Elbrat’s existences.
-Her original trailer made everyone else look bad and like they couldn’t even put their pants on in the morning wihout Big Sis Elesis. But not Ara. Ara was flat out excluded from the video. The way she killed Dark Nephilim in that video was also needlessly brutal. Because that’s just it: Elesis is an evil bitch.
-“Elesis” is a corruption of “Elise”. Characters named Elise tend to be cancer. (See: Sonic 2006 and Fire Emblem: Fates.) Therefore “Elesis” denotes a mutation of cancer!
-A common typo of Elesis is “Eelsis”. Eels are creepy. Being reminded of eels is not nice.
-Even our more sexualized female classes in Elsword had a level of dignity and class. And then here comes Crimson Avenger in a honest to god prostitute outfit…..
-She’s fugly and suffers sameface syndrome with her brother. (Even moreso in the anime. But the less said about the anime the better.)
-She’s such a god damn Mary Sue. She beat the leader of the demon army when she was still a loli. (Granted, Scar DOES suck and is more or less the easiest boss in the game despite being the final boss at one point and main villain before the Solace plot was pulled out of KOG’s asses…..) Comes in at just the right moment to save Elbrat from Chloe while everyone else could do nothing to help him. And then she singlehandedly saves Elrios from a demon god. And then Solace reveals to her that she was The Chosen One™ all along! And then when little brother finally gets plot significance and powers….. he uses it irresponsibly and Big Sis has to save his ass.
-She bullies dear sweet Aisha and Ara.
http://i.imgur.com/L0BBba3.png
-Her Military costume outfit is flat out inspired by the Nazi soldier uniform.
…..I wish I was making this shit up. (Apparently South Korea has less hangups about Nazis and Hitler since they didn’t deal with them, just their allies Japan. In case you’re wondering as to how something like this or Wally’s statue doing the Nazi salute got into the game in the first place.)
HATE HER DAMN YOU!
chill out dude/
Never.
DEATH TO ELESIS!
I miss the old Endgame. Wonder where he/she went :l
What old Endgame? I’ve always been vehemently anti-Elesis.
Yeah, and you’ve always tried to push that hate onto us, despite your reasons being flawed and/or subjective.
I agree the old endgame was better. He was all about Aisha now it cant stop talking about the most useless character which only serve to slow down the group (ara).
This is really sad indeed
So, uhh….. were you not around when Ara first released?
I was VERY welcoming of the new girl.
…..And very upset when KOG threw her under the bus for Elesis.
As for neglecting Aisha, what? You really think these nerfs don’t bother me? The “tapeworm diet” post was actually a setup for an insult to KOG. But no one asked why I’m talking about tapeworms so I didn’t get to use it…..
Probably because people thought you were losing your mind.
Not that you had one to begin with.
Well at least it’s kinda funny. Endgame you should go write a fanfic tbh
I like it when people think Elesis is broken. Hell, shadow step finally got the ironbody-strong treatment(you know, the skill that’s only 40mp, can be used while being attacked, has 11 second cooldown, and not only gets you out of being attacked, but ALSO gives you a free catch?). Good thing too, Raven was broken. But it’s funny that endgame still thinks ara isn’t broken in PVP. it’s truly laughable. with every skill she uses, she gains back 30-90mp in the form of beads. 30-90. can you imagine that on someone like elesis? “used ironbody, now I get 90mp back lololol”. Her range is ridiculously broken. Asura’s midair catch is OP AF. All aras have a 0mp superarmor approach, and because of the way her skills work, there are no breaks in between, and she’s entirely immune to damage for 95% of them. in addition, Asura has an extra 100mp? and… you think ELESIS was broken? O_o serious right now?
Let’s not forget about chung here now, either. all chungs have access to siege, and all it requires are cannonballs(of which you can recover what, 1, every 2 seconds, for free?)
. if you’re in 2v2, and you have a chung on your team, you have a GUARANTEED catch from the start of the game. siege doesn’t cost mp, has ridiculous range, has ridiculous splash damage, and, if you’re tactical trooper, can literally be infinite. On top of that, it does, what, 500% per shot? that’s crazy for a skill that doesn’t use MP.
Siege not use MP for stance but cost 25mp every shot, total is 5shot so it cost 125mp/siege full.
um no. unless you are a TT you cant siege at the start lol. and even then there are only like 3 stages that are large enough for you to load more than 2 to do that. The animation for reload makes sense as 70-80% of chung moves require at least one cannonball to use some need even more so you need to constantly reload. The animation idle takes 2-3 seconds if your opponent can do that multiple times a game regardless some situations like burning a potion you are doing something wrong, siege takes mp to cast and maintain dont know where you got that incredibly inaccurate info of a free mp move like that (again tt has mp red for that but not the others). Its why all 3 classes have many passives and even a specialization stat because without it not only are 50% of commands useless but you would literally be without options. damage… really even renas seige can do more and they are arrows not cannonballs, rf and a bunch more have more damaging options. and unless its tt that has increased fire rate it is stupid easy to dodge and bait. and the animation to startup is slow. I do play chung and while i agree he has stupid broken things this is certainly not one of them
Elise is the best Fire Emblem character. I was triggered so hard when I saw her called ‘cancer’. >:(
But then I remembered it’s just Endy. So this is just his way of saying he loves her too. :3
Marth saved the continent twice. Without pants.
…..But yeah, sure. A stupid little girl who exists solely to be pedobait and even has the same face (Kozaki is a bad character designer.) and personality as the pedobait character from the game right before hers is the best character in Fire Emblem’s 27 year history. Uh huh.
This is why nobody takes you seriously.
Because I said the character who most people only know from Super Smash Bros. where he has consistently been a top tier character is better than a pandery little girl?
…..
This is why nobody takes you seriously.
Or are you questioning my claim that Marth saved the continent twice without pants?
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/3/3a/Marth_FE1.png/revision/latest?cb=20130618215507
https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/a/a4/Marth-2S.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100721074306
Oh baby he’s done it. Ignore those remakes that retconned pants onto him.
Literally the only “evidence” you linked to was the “bullying” one, but you fail to realize that one, what she’s doing does actually happen between some groups of friends, and two, IT’S JUST TO PROMOTE THE COSTUME!
Based off of a Nazi uniform? Last I checked, Nazis don’t even have a unique look aside from the swastika, and the swastika existed LONG before Hitler was even born!
Gah, that was supposed to be a reply to Endgame’s comment!
Oh, btw, Crimson Avenger… DARK EL WARPED HER PERSONALITY!!!
Oh, and as for Elsword never improving… Do you mean the character? ‘Cause Elboy has had major buffs recently, like his Arma Blade becoming the same as Sword of Victory, aside from it increasing Attack Speed instead of MP Gain.
Eclipsed Elboy’s existence? ELBOY WAS ALWAYS THE MAIN FOCUS!! As for Ara: Fuck no, Ara’s still an important character!
Her original trailer… WHICH ISN’T EVEN FUCKING CANON! WHO WOULD THEY BE FIRST JOB IN FUCKING VELDER?! JOB CHANGES HAPPEN IN FEITA, YA MORON!
Same face syndrome? You do realize they’re siblings, right? Also, Elly’s face is more rounded than Elboy’s. Also, “ugly” is subjective, but most of us agree that she’s not ugly!
What the fuck do typos have to do with Elesis?! THEY’RE FUCKING TYPOS! AS IN NOT INTENTIONAL!
You’re using her NAME as a point?! First off, no, Elise herself is not cancer! The main reason she’s not liked is because of how she revives Sonic: BY KISSING HIM!
SHE DID NOT BEAT SCAR BY HERSELF, DAMMIT! DO YOU EVEN READ THE TUTORIALS?! SHE ONLY WON *AFTER* ELBOY CAME IN! BEFORE THAT, THE TWO WERE *EVENLY MATCHED*!
(I somehow forgot to type this) Secondly, names don’t mean a damn when it comes to that kind of thing!
Point is, you’re just using VERY flawed arguments to try to get us to hate Elly, only to prove that you don’t actually know what the fuck you’re talking about!
The only real flawed argument is yours rn.
Elsword never improving was probaly a statement about his character. How he remains a basic protag.
And, no. Elsword was not really the main focus all the time. With the new characters rolling in, the story turned and focused on them.
The reason they’re 1st job in that trailer is bc 3rd class was still in swing. Plus, you see the feita end video? They aren’t job changed. They’re still BASE.
Who cares about Elise? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
And It is very dumb that lil loli Elesis was able to beat scar. He’s a demon general. She wasn’t even a ruben “knight” yet. Its just a cliche show of friendship, family, and magic.
@Rolling Troll Eh…i highly doubt they were still base in Feita. KoG was probably lazy to make new models for 1st job and just used base models until they reached Velder. They meet add in Sanders end video instead of Hamel and Ara is with them in Feita end video when she was suppose to appear in hamel also (Correct me if im wrong.)
But here’s the thing: Elsword was ALWAYS with the group, except during Hall of El, where the goal is to SAVE him! Elsword was always fighting, whether it be against Banthus and Wally, the Nasod King, the demons, or even Solace, and even now against the Henir Fanatics! As for the other characters, you can have focuses other than the main focus. It’s called the MAIN focus, doesn’t mean it’s the only one!
Infinity Sword, Dimension Witch, Night Watcher, Veteran Commander, Code Battle Seraph, and Tactical Trooper were ALREADY RELEASED before Elesis was even REVEALED to come to the game!
SHE DIDN’T BEAT HIM ON HER OWN DAMMIT! WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?! SHE WAS ONLY ABLE TO BEAT HIM *AFTER* ELBOY CAME IN!
Fine Flare. Elesis did not beat Scar on her own. It was a team effort.
However, it still doesn’t change the fact that two children managed to force a demon general to retreat, which indicates that the El siblings (mostly Elesis) are overpowered as hell or the demon general is far weaker than what his rank would indicate.
Or maybe he was weaker (maybe not even a general) then than he was in Lanox.
It’s just speculation, but still.
“-SHE DIDN’T BEAT HIM ON HER OWN DAMMIT! WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?! SHE WAS ONLY ABLE TO BEAT HIM *AFTER* ELBOY CAME IN!-”
“-Its just a cliche show of friendship, family, and magic.-”
You need some logic and reasoning in your life.
“Infinity Sword, Dimension Witch, Night Watcher, Veteran Commander, Code Battle Seraph, and Tactical Trooper were ALREADY RELEASED before Elesis was even REVEALED to come to the game!”
“3rd class was still in swing.”
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“Eh…i highly doubt they were still base in Feita. KoG was probably lazy to make new models for 1st job and just used base models until they reached Velder. They meet add in Sanders end video instead of Hamel and Ara is with them in Feita end video when she was suppose to appear in hamel also (Correct me if im wrong.)”
@Kiz Yahh, ara was supposed to appear in hamel. That cutscene made me think {Farmhan} is in Feita. They were too lazy, to make models for Feita End cutscene.
Most of this makes sense except for “Ara’s still an important character”. Story quests barely show her (and because of her personality she usually just says something obvious or negligible) and all her business with Ran isn’t focused on at all anymore, they only mentioned it in the latest epic because they were talking about everyone’s goals. We might see Ran in the next region but if he just escapes again like in Hamel (which also did not focus on Ara for long despite her being in the cutscene) then Ara will still be unimportant. Though she probably will be important if she actually saves Ran or they have some significant interactions. In Elrianode they kind of made Elsword, Aisha, and Rena more relevant because of the Hall of El, the rune stuff, and Ventus/Lincy respectively. So it would make sense if Ara and Chung became more important because of Ran and Helputt. I’d say Karis and Lu might interact too but I can’t actually remember if Karis is alive or not.
Karis died at the end of Sander. Has been ever since the release of 8-5 and 8-6.
The ending video made it more explicit with Eve crushing the fuck out of her.
This balance patch seems all fine except for another DiE nerf. His damage already terrible in pve and pvp ffs. But meh no biggy. And I find it ironic these people complaining about luciel nerfs and how “useless” it is to play them yet they are wiping out my entire HP(350k HP 25% red) with one skill not to mention that ridiculous combo on demonio that goes on forever doing sht tons of damage and drags you all over the map. Anyways stop saying they’re useless while they’re still that powerful. The nerfs that CBS needs is her many hitboxes and them tracking your acrosss the map. And DC would be fine if his Bullet nonsense didn’t also fracked that far and hits you so many times and adding his specializing effect makes him able to spam it any time. Aisha nerfs are and were needed. I’m not talking about you decent Aisha’s out thee but I’m sick and tired of those running Aisha’s in arena who are able to get mp from and active and while standing around waiting to be able to use a skill then does it to catch and repeat the whole process until the timer runs out. The worse part is these b*tches are proud to do it smfh.
KOG just seems to hate Wind Sneaker. This is the reason why very few people play as her.
She’s so beautifully designed too.
I still main her [I switched to Nightwatcher when released, but switched back in 2015].
But her combos feel wonky now. Her old Kick ZZ>ZZZ combo worked waaaay better, because at least then, you could properly connect hits, rather than fail to start any combo at all.
Sometimes no matter how many times I press Z, WS just keeps kicking the first combo kick over and over again.
I would seriously trade off some of her [excess] active skills just to get a much needed revamp for her.
Also I wish Dive Bomb Kick was flashier and and AOE instead. Like a Kamen Rider Ryuki Flame kick explosion. Or maybe just scrap the skill and give her some Bruce Lee style “Siege Kick Mode”
They nerf CrA’s Blood Fall…….FUCKING SHIT!!!!! What the fuck is wrong with KOG they nerf every single character in Elsword. Now were totally gonna suck in heroic dungeons and that damn el tower defense.
on one hand, it’s nice to see ara get buffs. on the other hand, I do not understand why the squishy wizard needs to lose squishiness-mitigation options.
but it’s kog`, it’s never about “need”.
i just now paid attention, but gust storm got it’s damage roughly cut in half….
maybe now people will stop telling me to put that on my DW… yes it did a lot of damage, but it was still MAGIC DAMAGE. DW is not only HEAVILY phys based, but she also has THE LEAST mag attack among the aisha…
and now that it does half damage, i can’t see any aisha using it, let alone DW
it still has the absorbing trait, which will go great with DW’s nerfed MMU
still good for bravery stacking as well since it already regen a lot of mp with “Empowered” trait.
Yes.. Aisha is already dead, and they are still killing her.
Leave aisha alone ;-;
The movement speed of aisha is ridiculous, the only way to defend itself was with teleport and shield, and have been nerfed
I got bored, if few people use aisha now, then no one will. including me.
Oh sure buff Ara…….Eve needs the love she deserves
They should buff all the girls.
Except Elesis. Nerf her. Nerf her into the ground.
And Lu’s buffs should come in the form of becoming a woman again because no shit a woman is going to be more powerful than a dumb little girl!
Wow… everyone got lots of dungeon buffs…
and then there is BH.. Blaze Wing damage become trash… 50% dmg gone? really KoG?
Previously back then it was around 2400% then lose 1/2 into 1200%, then several buffs into 1400%..
AND NOW ANOTHER 1/2 NERF BAT INTO 722%!! WOW
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A GOOD TIER 2 ANNIHILATION SKILL!?!??!
At least return that Pyro Knight Fire Wave thingy that got deleted years ago.
It was useful one-hit annihilation skill!!
agh fcking godamnit KoG
They nerf CBS again.
Again. A-Fucking-gain
They will keep nerfing her again and again and again and again and again and again and again I am so sick and tired of this bullshit happen over and over again.
Nerfing needles is not enough? They nerf her mp gain? Nerf her fucking damage? She deals so much hits, yet barely gets anything back. PvP is hideous as CBS because even though she have screen pausing and spammy skills she is still biggest mana feeder! Everyone can just mana break so easily and still have more mana to either one-shot or punish her badly.
I keep thinking that it will get better someday but no it keeps getting worse and worse. It stresses me so much because this is my favourite class and character. But I’ll keep playing CBS even though she’s beginning to become an unplayable class because I love Eve and I love CBS….
Not even a +12 or whatever will help CBS because KOG will always find a way to downgrade her even when unnecessary.. Every other class will still do better damage. I will expect her 3rd Class to be absolutely terrible too. I can’t expect from KOG to make a good job with CBS…
Ikr. People just whine like a baby about how broken cbs is. Yet their class is broken.
lovely Na player
Gawd Crimson rose NERF TF KOG but thanks for buffing YR and pls. Buff Erbluhen change 100%% crit. Blatt blume to light pls….
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This is actually a good patch.
Although I feel like the Aisha players are gonna be a bit salty. Oh well.
Next, KoG just needs to nerf Ara’s hitboxes. The invisible vertical ones.
Also, still looking for those “Enchanced” trait removals or revamps.
Otherwise, excellent patch.
80% max resist.
is that mean max 400 element resist for 80% or it still need 500 but just giving 80% ?
If u nerf ..Ain (erbluhen emotion) im sure u will lose 50% ur player and fans ^^ there will be a lot player leave this game if u nerf EE..so plz dont nerf EE skill (Satz Aurora) we begging u KOG…!
dont nerf Ain Class EE ( Erbluhen Emotion ) if u nerf this class there will a lot player leave this game soon ..trust me ! Plz dont nerf EE ..he already nerf so my time …better u nerf rose ……plz notice this message KOG ! we begging you dont nerf EE skil ( Satz aurora) u can nerf other skill but not satz aurora …..
So they won’t nerf IP’s Burst Wolf freeze time or his passives, neither CBS and her ridicolous special active skill Needles Cutting… Nice job.
Bro you must be crazy if you seriously think that IP’s Burst Wolf have too much freeze time, because it doesn’t.
Cbs’s needles has a delay. Just learn how to avoid it.
salty Na player
Really? Nerf cbs more? Isnt she nerfed enough already???
Cbs doesnt need any more nerfs for pve shes already useless.
cbs more nurfs salty players rejoice but elesiss is still BUsted yes busted any class with stoic body gains 100% pressureand the dration lasts too long yet everyone defends that its fair ok cbs has no dmg what so ever all she can do is burn mp but thats STILL OP AS EASY AS IT IS TO COMPLEATLY BODY CBS AS EASY AS IT IS TO GAIN FREE MANA AND BRAKE HER EVER MOVE SKILL AS EASY AS IT IS TO SEE THAT EVERY CLASS CAN COMPLEATLY COUNTER CBS OUT OUT DMG HER she still deserves nurfs salty na players