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12/21 Patch Notes

December 19th, 2017 | Posted by 2nafishisgood in Event Notices | Patch Notes

Maintenance Time: 05AM ~ 01PM (8hrs)

# Event

[Starting Event]

  1. 10th Year Anniversary Event

– Event 1. Elsword’s 10th Year, Thank you, We love you

– Time: 2017 12/21 ~ 11:59 PM

– For : All characters over level 10

– Log in for 30 minutes to get D-Day Special Cube (Version#). Version# depends on number of relay stamps you have.

Relay Stamps
Reward
1 ~ 5 엘소드 10주년 스페셜 D-Day 큐브 (I)
6 ~ 8 엘소드 10주년 스페셜 D-Day 큐브 (II)
9 ~ 10 엘소드 10주년 스페셜 D-Day 큐브 (III)

 

Event 2. Winter Hot-Time

– 2017 12 21 ~ 2017 12 27

– For : All players

Date Event Time
Detail
12 21 14:00 ~ 24:00 2x EXP, Unlimited Stamina
12 22 14:00 ~ 24:00
12 23 11:00 ~ 24:00 2x EXP, 2x Drop Rate, Unlimited Stamina
12 24 11:00 ~ 24:00
12 25 00:00 ~ 24:00
12 26 14:00 ~ 24:00 2x EXP, Unlimited Stamina
12 27 00:00 ~ 24:00 3x EXP, 2x Drop Rate, Unlimited Stamina
No fee for board market usage
No fee for Magic Stone socket/enhancement/repairs

 

Event 3. D-Day Present Sample Event

– 2017 12 27  00: 00 ~  11: 59PM

– For: All players over level 10 (per character)

– Log in for 30 minutes to get D-Day Sample cube that has Sage Scroll and [Cobo] 10th year anniversary skill-cutin(1 day cube)

 

Event 4. D-Day Attendance Event

– Time: 2017 12 21 ~ 2017 12 27 11: 59PM

– For : All characters over level 10 (per account)

– Participate in Attendance Event to get D-Day attendance stamp

Exchange stamps for items like [Cobo] Sage Stone, [Cobo] Sage Scroll Cube, 10th Year Anniversary Skill Cut-in(perm) cube. (From Ariel)

Log-in Event Name
Time Category Reward
두근두근
D-Day 출석 도장!
2017/12/21  ~ 2017/12/26 11: 59PM 1 time daily D-Day 출석 도장
(x1)
드디어 D-Day!
출석 도장! 4개 지급
2017/12/27 00:00 ~ 2017/12/27 11:59PM on this day D-Day 출석 도장
(x4)

 

# Cash Shop

[New]

  1. IB(Dawn Ruler, Dusk Ruler)

– 2017 12 21 ~ 2018 03 15

  1. IB(Dawn Ruler, Dusk Ruler) Celebration Package

– 2017 12 21 ~ 2018 01 03

-1x Dawn Ruler, Dusk Ruler Celebration cube

[Ending]

  1. IB:Mariposa Requiem
  2. Pet : Morte
  3. Custom: Mariposa Eye

 

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170 Responses

  • RedStriker says:

    10 years already huh? I’m surprised Els made it this far…LOL (jk)

    • Endgame says:

      But it IS a surprise Elsword has made it this far.

      -It was literally about to be canceled within a year of its release until Eve came out and people flocked to the game for her. (Yes, this is why KOG decided to make Add, a Rule 63 version of her. They even said they planned on releasing him before Elesis but decided not to for whatever reason.)

      -Grand Chase. The way they just up and canceled it despite a large international rally to beg KOG not to without giving the game a proper ending rubbed everyone the wrong way. You’d think that bad press towards KOG would have hurt Elsword more….. especially considering the apparent reason they canceled Grand Chase was so they could focus on then upcoming game Aima. Elsword players should have been concerned that Aima would also steal development resources from Elsword….. well, fortunately for them Aima shut down after 14 months. And KOG actually brought in Ronan in a last ditch effort to save the game.

      No, I am NOT making this shit up. YouTube it. Ronan was made a playable character in Aima.

      I wonder if someone at KOG is thinking “We should have used Elesis instead. Look how popular she is in Elsword!”

      -The ST Revamp. 2na and I can’t emphasize enough how badly this damaged KR. People really were ragequitting en masse. Some of us even kicked around the theory that Elesis was released right after it because they knew people wouldn’t like it. (Complete with the MASSIVE Elesis hype train leading up to her release to try to divert attention from it. She got hyped up more than any other character in any kMMO…..)

      -Rose Rage. Such a PR disaster I’m surprised KOG didn’t decide to pull the plug right then and there. (Especially after recent failures like Sudden Attack 2, Maple Story 2, Tree of Savior, and Peria Chronicles STILL being missing.)

      -KurtzPel. Remember how KOG announced a new game and then Grand Chase died? Well…..

      You know how Elsword hasn’t been getting as many updates lately and the 3rd Jobs finally came out all half-assed? Yeah.

      • TheStranger says:

        Every keep talking about how Rose ruined the game. I don’t know why you guys hate her so much? she’s just a character in the game. so why? Rose joning elsword and ST revamp , why the player base has to rage for her? I’ve been wondering why. But I can’t configure myself

        • Kiz says:

          KoG said a few months back before rose got released 2 years ago in december that they wouldn’t release any new characters. Everyone wanted balanced instead of a new broken af character but guess who we got instead of balance? Yea..we got a even more broken and annoying character named Rose to shit on balance even more. Plus shes from another game called Dungeon Fighter Online if you haven’t heard. shes not even original. She has been in other games as well besides elsword i think.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Any links to prove this claim?

          • Anon says:

            Rose is the second crossover character. Elesis is the first, originally from Grand Chase. Grand Chase also did a smaller scale crossover with Elsword before it got shut down where Elsword himself appeared in the story as Elesis’s younger brother, however the two games do not seem to take place in the same universe.

            Personally, I kinda get why people might have had negative feelings toward Rose at the time, but that was 2 years ago. As it stands now, like it or not Rose is in the game and has been for some time, any lingering negativity towards her for any reason other than how she actually plays is just petty.

            Also I don’t really get why KR players hated the new Skill Tree. It’s much better than the shitty revamp that came before it. You had to choose between 2 skills on most tiers, once you chose a skill the other got locked off from you. The only way to use the other skill would be to reset your tree or purchase another one. Personally I still prefer the original skill tree, but the newest version of the tree is much closer to it than the first ST revamp.

            Really, the only major change I would make to the current skill tree is to bring back SP, and make it so depending on how you spend your points you can have all the skills, but it’s better not to so you can get skills you actually use up in level. This would make having multiple skill trees less redundant again.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            I personally like the most recent skill tree the most. Honestly, who cares if you have all the skills or not if you can only equip 10 at most? Plus, this way you can actually try the skills and see if you actually like it before you decide if you want it or not.

            I mean, I know everyone pretty much has the same passives because of it, not including Force Skills, but coming for someone like me who would try to get every single Passive Skill AND enough equipable skills to fill up the skill slots, that’s actually a freaking godsend.

            And don’t even get me started on Ara’s Secret Arts.

          • Endgame says:

            It’s true. Female Gunner is Nexon’s village bicycle. She’s been in Sudden Attack, Balloon Fight, and other Nexon games before getting into Elsword.

            …..Yeah. The Koreans hated her. They still do.

          • zetgeist says:

            >Also I don’t really get why KR players hated the new Skill Tree. It’s much better than the shitty revamp that came before it
            prrrrrretty sure he’s talking about the “you can cut off your left arm, or your right arm” skill tree disaster that came before the current “you get everything eventually” thing.

          • thatguy says:

            @anon elesis isn’t a crossover character they wanted her to be but gc’s company didn’t want them tomorrow

            @endgame ive heard a few of these from older players especially the st revamp one ugh the amount of stupid on that hype train which only boiled down to durr we get lv 20 skills

            @kiz she only got in elsword cuz shes the most played character in dfo hell you can say that for every other game shes appears in

        • Wowidk says:

          Personally, because she’s a very boring character and she just seems like sexual fanservice. I know she’s DFO’s poster girl, but they could have tried to grab someone more interesting from DFO to put into the game. She was probably the worst option for Elsword.

          • Zygal says:

            Wowidk fun playability is quite subjective, some people find some chr fun some others not, an with a lot of things i would argue its just cos well CR and FR are a bit unbalance to say the least in pvp and still are, thats mainly the reason why chr are hated, and just tell me one chr that doesn’t get hate, just 1, all chr have some broken stuff, some more than others which is kind of obivious, some underpower while some overpower, KD valeus are fuck up in a lot of attacks, like some have like what 1 KD per attacks while others have 5 and thats with the same amount of hits, which doesn’t make much sence, and even if they nerf them like with DE after he came out, which ended up leaving DE’s pve dmg stupidly low since they had to nerf for both before, and they haven’t give any back for pve, for one patch for some reason they decided to increse ML dmg on pvp even, which is stupid to say the least, they would still complain, cos well thats how people are

            i personaly like Opt a lot, she is fun to play and quite powerful too(not in pvp, which i don’t care about so no problem there), i mean tech, mechas, explosion, sing me up

            and can you really call fanservice much for a chr that doesn’t have much compair to others, i hope they don’t give extra fanservice to the other classes when they come out

          • thatguy says:

            Which floors me cuz ppl were begging for a rogue class dfo has that , a fighter class dfo has that and yall just went shes popular so here’s our newest character

        • Wowidk says:

          By boring I meant character design wise.

          The guns are also not very interesting.

          • Zygal says:

            my general point is to each their own, some people find Rose fun, by example i find CEm stupidly boring, but some people like CEm cos they find her fun

        • zetgeist says:

          >Every keep talking about how Rose ruined the game.
          they don’t say that she ruined the game, they say that she was released at a really bad time. and she was – people were fed up with balance issues and it was largely agreed (and I’m talking .kr here) that the game was in no state for more characters at that time, and then kog` with their shitty netcode utterly screwed the pooch on a live tourney, and their attempt to keep people from leaving was to reveal f.gunner… which actually made more people throw up their hands and leave, because the general consensus was that balance needed to be addressed before they added anyone else to make it even more of a mess. their inability to properly react to customer input and shitty PR skills make it a wonder that nexon hasn’t just given them the boot.

      • El-Desu says:

        Hm, by your logic Elsword should’ve been shut down by now, starting with the release of HeroWarz. But where do I see it? No where, because HeroWarz shut down and elsword is still up and running. And 3rd job wasn’t half assed. They promised us a new system, and we got force change. And they didn’t release all of them at once, to build up hype. Also each character got noticable boosts in their Passives. Sure I was looking forward to new skills, but this can be good, fixing otherwise useless skills from before, like Em’s cyclone, and how now strength EM is now more viable, and this happened with a lot of the classes. They also added mythology to most if the characters, showing effort. They say they have been working in this for a year, and I am looking forward to new things they might add. Also, they are different from skill notes, like force land demolisher, so they might have some new things to the force skill. Adding flexibility by allowing us to switch mid dungeon is nice as well~

        • Anon says:

          I see 3rd job as being like the 2nd half of the same thing Transcendence is. Trans advances you without adding new combos, only new skills and passives, then 3rd job gives you the new combos and a new passive and hyper.

          I don’t really see a point to how they did it though. Splitting one advancement into 2 halves like this just seems kinda… Odd. Getting most of it at level 70 and then getting the rest at 99. The only reason I can think of that they did it this way is to get players to cash for it twice.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            @Anon The way I see it: Trans is just a stronger 2nd Job with more skills, and 3rd Job is the actual advancement.

            Most of it? Dude, the Force Skill system is MORE than what Trans gave. Sure, we have to get the skills via drops, but it lets us customize our characters beyond just what skills we use or what stats we give our characters: we can give them two passive skills and five “ability” skills of our own choice, as well as changing skills from previous classes, and more passive, active, and change Force Skills are going to be added in the future.

            And btw, it’s two passives, not just one.

            @El-Desu Not all the skills changed by Force Change skills are useless, plus using Force Change gets rid of the original skill’s Enhanced/True effect. Some are clear improvements, but others are basically just different.

        • Endgame says:

          1. HeroWarz was not a KOG developed game. KOG NA simply published it.

          2. Furthermore, HeroWarz is now dead in all regions. Proof that KOG kills all that they touch~?

          • Flare Kyn says:

            No, probably just a lack of players.

          • Endgame says:

            But why did HeroWarz lack players?

            Probably because people thought it was another KOG game!

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Then why isn’t Elsword dead?

            Probably because people don’t care if it’s KoG or not.

          • Endgame says:

            Elsword’s continued existence is one of the greatest mysteries of the universe.

            Other kMMOs have died for less than the shit KOG has pulled. (See: Lunia.)

          • Zygal says:

            the amount of people that like the game is enough to keep it running and make it profitable, and its easier for people to stay on the same game than starting on a new one, if people play MMOs they usualy play one, since its quite the time sink, updates are quite often, so people get the i might miss out on something feeling

          • Endgame knows nothing says:

            @Endgame
            HeroWarz was already dying in KR before KOG announced a western release.
            The game was lacking content, all KR players had was 20~30 hours of PvE Content then the rest was
            mainly MOBA-PVP. It only took about 6~8 hours to reach Level 192 in KR) which was the softcap
            before leveling to 200 became very slow. (Lv.1~190 was through story quests)

            The whole point on why A.Storm tried releasing a completely redesigned version for NA/JP was to hope the rework would do better, which it didn’t, it turned out to be worst by making characters more slow-paced, and more RNG heavy than it already was.

            Since JP already died during CBT1 and NA was falling apart due to “not being like KR’s version” they decided to just shutdown the game in every region since A.Storm was planning on taking KR down to rework it like the Western version if it did well, but no one liked how the NA version didn’t play like the KR one.

            It wasn’t KOG’s fault, get your head out your ass dude.
            A.Storm was trash at creating content, the reworked Western version had even less content than their
            original one.
            I’m not defending KOG or Elsword, since I couldn’t care less about Elsword as much anymore, but do your research before posting non-sense when A.Storm was the retarded company that destroyed their own game.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Right, not a lot of MMO players play multiple MMOs. And even the ones that do will have one that they spend most of their playtime on.

          • Endgame says:

            So A.Storm partnered with KOG because birds of a feather and whatnot?

            You know who has more experience with killing their own games than A.Storm? KOG.

            Grand Chase, Fighters Club, Aima, Ultimate Race….. wait, UR doesn’t count because it never even got hosted in the first place! ZING!

            And let’s not forget how close Elsword came to dying on several occasions.

            And KurtzPel….. ha. Dead game walking!

          • Flare Kyn says:

            But WHY did those games close? You have yet to prove that KoG just said “Let’s stop hosting this game just ’cause”. There was most likely financial reasons for them closing down, like them not getting enough cash to justify keeping it up. Remember, servers cost money to have up..

          • Endgame says:

            Only Grand Chase was a case of KOG pulling the plug on their own.

            Fighters Club and Aima were straight up failures.

        • thatguy says:

          “They also added mythology to most if the characters, showing effort.”

          So add information that has nothing to do with the Characters is good now? It hurts how stupid that sounds

          @anon i kinda agree but i need you to elaborate on the second paragraph

      • Croire says:

        Alot of my own complaints wrapped into one.
        But my only 2 reasons for hating Rose (otherwise I like her) is that essentially that Rose (to me) feels like a Rena 2.0, except with guns, and that makes the already pathetic WindSneaker feel even less enjoyable to use.

        Also can I point out, that Rushing Dance literally looks like something WS could’ve had; WS, whose combat appeal is supposed to be kicking. Feels like a kick in my gonads.

        I knew my eyes werent deceiving me, I couldve sworn I saw Ronan on a news site talking about AIMA in korean. hard to find on google.

        And has anyone else noticed or pointed out yet that these so-called 3rd jobs are basically the ST skill split in the form of a job advancement? I really dont like these new 3rd jobs, not just cuz of disservice to Transcendence concept and also some of the designs just dont match up to 2nd job designs at all (and the fact it’s being released just a year after Transcendence, with so few core changes to contribute to existing classes in comparison, just makes this look even more like the obvious desperation move it is)

        PS, the Anemos combos and special actives (aside from the dash wind kick) suck, and Ill rather stay as a Grand Master than become Imperial Sword, cuz that way, Ill always have my Princess Knight

    • eccnec says:

      nothing surprising, RESS made good looking char since the start so game alives. or not this game’d ended already like Fists of Fu

      • Endgame says:

        But RESS left us after Velder.

        And now he left Closers too because his contract with Nexon expired.

        And now the latest Closers character is a 15 year old big foreheaded brat who uses a fucking selfie-stick in her victory animation.

        ‘Tis a dark time…..

  • ghndngd fjtzedfhsfb says:

    Feels like it’s been ears since the last IB w/ third jobs and all

  • Endgame says:

    God dammit KOG. Just show us Noblesse’s advancement already so I know whether to curse your name for denying us Adult Lu or if I have something to look forward to in fanart land.

    • Soren says:

      Why are you so obsessed over getting an adult Lu? Even though you know it’ll never happen? So why “curse their name” for something you know you won’t get?

      • Endgame says:

        https://i.imgpile.com/nJPKdo.png

        Because we need Adult Lu, dammit.

        Women >>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbait >>>>>>>> loli cancer.

        Plus, they dug themselves into this hole. Noblesse is the one path where she already goes through puberty and loses her loli appeal. (Case in point: Elwiki says Ciel has voice clips where he laments Lu’s growth spurt.) Not having her go all the way back to her original self would be a real cop-out.

        • BAJAJA says:

          keep hoping, u aint the only one here

        • Flare Kyn says:

          Voice clips? Dafuq you talking about?

          Actually, I do know what you’re talking about: “Ciel quotes that Lu was cuter when she was shorter and would prefer her to stay that way.” But here’s the thing: unless it was in the description of a Job Change quest, THAT’S NOT IN-GAME!! And even if it was in a Job Change quest description, that’s still not a Voice Clip!

          Anyway, you’re apparently not going to understand this regardless of how many times I say it, BUT NOT EVERYONE THAT LIKES LU IS SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HER!

          • Anon says:

            I don’t really see how making her an adult could work, in a practical sense. She would require an entirely new character model, hitbox, and reworked combos to adjust to her change in scaling. It would be a much more drastic change than any of the other characters go through in job advancement. That doesn’t even include the work of having to redo every single costume outfit she can equip to fit her new proportions.

            It makes much more sense for there to be a way for her to stay transformed on 3rd path for as long as the player wants at the expense of the usual super armor.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            I’ve brought the character model thing up in the past as well, but he keeps ignoring me because he thinks I’m braindead or something. And the combos wouldn’t need to be changed: before a certain model revamp, some characters actually used to change heights in certain classes, though I have no idea what that meant for costumes. That no longer happens, though, so characters now stay the same height regardless of class.

          • Endgame says:

            Yeah, I get the whole model thing. But they said they were working on 3rd Jobs for over a year and surely there’s a separate team that works on models and animations from the team that works on the programming. Animations that there aren’t even that many new ones of since 3rd Job skills are just pre-existing skills. So there’s not really that many excuses. ESPECIALLY when there is already an existing model for Adult Lu already in the game.

            They should have thought about this back when they first released Noblesse instead of designing 2nd Jobs with a degree of finality. Or not just release a pedobait character in a market still dominated by boobs. (And god dammit, it should stay that way. We’ve already lost Japan to the loli scourge.)

          • Flare Kyn says:

            If you understood the model thing, you would know that THERE’S NO WAY FOR THEM TO MAKE A PLAYABLE PERMANENT ADULT LU THE MOMENT LU/CIEL WAS EVEN REVEALED!!

          • Endgame says:

            Noblesse already involves modifications to Lu’s model and there’s already an existing model for Adult Lu in the game.

            Stop making excuses for them. (Especially the “they homogenized the models for all job advancements” thing. There was no real reason for that from a game balance perspective as no one should be PVPing below max level anyway. The game lost some of its flavor when they did that.) They absolutely could do it. Anything else is pure laziness on their part.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Modifications? Dafuq? Are you talking about her PROMO COSTUME?! WHICH *EVERYONE* HAS?! THOSE DON’T EVEN CHANGE ANYONE’S HITBOX DATA, ‘CAUSE *THEY’RE JUST COSTUMES AND NOT AN ACTUAL MODEL MODIFICATION*!

            Yes, ,there is an adult Lu in the game, BUT IT’S USED THE SAME WAY AS AISHA’S MAGICAL MAKEUP MODEL! THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A *TRANSFORMATION SKILL* AND ACTUALLY CHANGING THE PLAYER’S DEFAULT MODEL!

            Actually, them changing the heights to be the same was a good idea, especially since *even different Second Jobs of the same character had different heights back then*! Also, you see any Third Jobs with different heights from their Second Jobs? No? Exactly.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Also, even Asura, who canonically has bigger boobs, only has that in her promo costume. Any other costume or equipment piece and her boobs are still the same size as base Ara’s.

          • Endgame says:

            No she doesn’t have bigger boobs as Asura.

            Good god, do you people know nothing about how boobs work?

          • awsed says:

            boobs are overrated, plus, if you want adult lu artwork, there’s already plenty, go fap like a virgin elsewhere pls

          • Endgame says:

            Boobs contain the hopes and dreams of men.

            Lu cannot contain the hopes and dreams of demon men as a loli. And Karis and Jin are dead. Ergo, if she is not restored to her former glory, the Demon Realm will die.

            …..And then Elrios will have a massive refuge crisis with lots of blatant racism on both sides.

            We don’t want that, do we?

          • awsed says:

            I’ll say it again:
            boobs. are. overrated. c:

          • Flare Kyn says:

            “No she doesn’t have bigger boobs as Asura.” – Endgame 2017.

            In all seriousness, compare these OFFICIAL images of Ara’s Transcendant classes. You can clearly see that Asura has the bigger chest of the three.

            https://elwiki.net/wiki/images/c/c9/SDTrans.png
            https://elwiki.net/wiki/images/7/7a/YRTrans.png
            https://elwiki.net/wiki/images/5/51/ASTrans.png

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Also, Karis and Jin being dead means there’s no big-booded demons left? Dafuq are you talking about? Those were only TWO demon women: there’s likely at least HUNDREDS more! And that’s not even including the Succubi you fight in Sander!

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Oh, but wait, Jin’s NOT dead: she appears in LANOX’S SECRET DUNGEON!

            Seriously, dude, learn to fact check before you make shit posts like this.

          • Endgame says:

            What does Jin appearing in the secret dungeon have to do with anything?

            Kayak appeared again in a secret dungeon too. And guess what happened to him by the end of the stage?

          • Endgame says:

            And the generic succubi (Which are all dead now too~.) didn’t even have that big boobs. Only Ellirot. (Guess what her status is?)

            Face it Flareykins, we’ve deprived the Demon Realm of boobs. No boobs = no dreams.

          • Kitory says:

            The whole “model Problem” isn’t a thing. I work with models, textures, and understand basic limitations of various engines. In almost all popular engines it is possible to simply scale the model with precise collision checking; besides that, whatever engine Elsword uses has already proven its scaling capabilities with the giants potion changing the model and hit box. From what I understand of the script, character collision is precise and attacks use boxes, so making a character taller isn’t an issue. Personally I don’t care about seeing older Lu, but that’s just because I don’t like any of the new characters ever since Elesis; with her and Ara being sub-par. I’m tired of KOG adding larger skills that don’t require aim, and removing launch moves or other fun combos. I haven’t played the game in over two years now, but I loved the potential it had. I want to start up again, but I know I’ll be disappointed.

          • Endgame says:

            Yep. Most skills not even needing proper aim to hit their mark is another strike against the “hitboxes” and “game balance” arguments against Adult Lu.

            …..Not as big as one as KOG never caring about actually balancing the game and flat out admitting they balance based off of “popularity though.

            There’s no excuses. KOG made a pedobait character with the “excuse” that she’s “really a woman” and made a job path where she starts growing again. Not going all the way is unacceptable.

            And really, idiotic. kMMOs run on boobs. KOG is aware of this. They gave a completely inorganic robot boobs for fuck’s sake. Sooooo……

          • Flare Kyn says:

            @Kitory WE BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT’S FUCKING APPARANT THAT KOG DOESN’T WANT THEIR HITBOXES TO CHANGE UPON ADVANCING BECAUSE THEY *USED* TO DO THAT BUT THEY REVAMPED IT SO THAT THEY DIDN’T! IT’S NOT A TECHNICAL LIMITATION, IT’S A COMPANY DECISION!

            @Endgame First, you actually SEE Kayak die in Bethma’s Secret Dungeon, but Jin ESCAPES before fighting the boss of Lanox’s Secret Dungeon, QUITE CLEARLY STILL ALIVE! And second, MY POINT WAS THAT THERE ARE WAY MORE DEMONS THAN WHAT WE’VE SEEN!

            You do realize that even in that job path, her model never gets any bigger, right?

            I love how you ignored the Asura chest argument as soon as I provided proof that you were wrong about it.

            No, kMMOs do NOT run on boons, they run on players, boobs alone won’t make the game itself fun.

          • Endgame says:

            For fuck’s sake Flare Kyn. Learn how boobs work and how clothes can shape them.

            Asura isn’t bigger. Her boobs just aren’t being supported thanks to looser clothing.

            Same goes for Grand Archer compared to Rena’s other class paths. And Dimension Witch compared to Void Princess. Everyone has the same cup size regardless of class. (Except Lu where Noblesse really is bigger than the other two. But not by much…..) Any differences you see are because of different outfits. (VP’s top is binding Aisha’s boobs down. Angkor is a fucking monster for making her wear it.)

          • Endgame says:

            By the way, the anime just had Jin clearly die. That’s the closest thing to an official statement we’re going to get on the matter.

          • Kitory says:

            Flare Kyn, it wasn’t my intention to say whether they should/would, but that it wouldn’t be hard to do so. Anon brought up that they would have to make a lot of edits to costumes, combos, and hit boxes; and I just wanted to address the topic. Elsword uses direct x from Microsoft for the model format, so adjusting the scale of separate bones will be applied to any model with the same rig (including costumes), and this will also affect animations. The character models use precise collision checking not hit boxes, however, most attacks outside the character/weapon model use hit boxes. For Lu, these hit boxes would include most of her basic attacks, considering they leave a claw mark effect. Editing these few things wouldn’t take long or much effort on KOG’s part. There really is no need to be upset. I merely wanted to explain.

          • zetgeist says:

            >b-b-but the art!

            tardkyn, go make a VP. now put her in any costume besides her promo outfit and look at her chest. it’s the exact same size as a DW’s. and that’s the exact same size as base aisha. despite meme spewing idiots thinking rena gets bigger through her promotes, she also doesn’t change size. nor does ara. the only case of a bust size change in the entire game is evil zombie lu using the “become adult sized” modechange skill.

            assuming you actually do have a brain, please, try using it.

            then again, I’m not sure why anyone argues with you. you are the same guy who was practically crapping himself over the fact that kog` started releasing the 3rds before the winter solstice, since they said “winter” for when they were releasing that stuff.

        • Dundershock says:

          Royal Guard: *under breath* I should have chosen dreadlord…

        • BAJAJA says:

          hmmmm … but if we get adult Lu for N/RG 3, the animators would have to rehash the starting and losing animations (especially one starting animation where Ciel is holding a thrashing Lu)

        • pos says:

          Having an adult lu is the fullfit of her “destiny”/”will” (even if she gains temporal “power” back with diabla transformation)
          Same principle goes for:
          -cEmpress who finally revives nasod race or takes Adrian’s place into designing all new Nasods becoming the “Matriach” (Mother of all Nasods).
          -Aisha with her ring finally back making her so over-power, without it she will never be complete.
          -Elsword maybe becoming a somewhat sucessor of sun master (Rune Slayer?) successor
          -Asura basically becoming Eun (removing all Ara’s remains)
          -And maybe Rena/Rose coming back to their home?
          Even if a lot of people would love to see it, It also cause a lot of problems for story/developers and for convenience(KOG) they might never come.

        • thatguy says:

          I mean yea she gained all this power and while she’s a demon lord after dreadlord third job it looks like she doesn’t have her old powers back but i think you’re looking at the wrong class hope diabla becomes the lu you want

          • pos says:

            i dont really want that “lu class”. i just would like to see it, to fullfit what they(the characters) actually wanted on the beggining, i mean so many years looking for something not giving up for anything that happens, and yet you dont get it.
            (Some characters already give up on their personal quest realizing that what they wanted is no longer possible or it have too many consequences).

    • LuckyDucky says:

      Poor Endy must be so frightened that they are going to take his precious loli waifu away from him after they made Elesis’s boobs bigger.

      Don’t worry Endy. Lu will be kept cute and small forever. :3

  • Soren says:

    No mention of 3rd jobs 2nd path yet I see…

  • SilveRose says:

    just laugh because Rose Hater Comment
    even they use some fact to support his hate speech LOL
    what ever you talk about Rose
    Rose still alive, and she liked more than you know
    “all players hate Rose” really? are you sure 100% players hate Rose?
    because you hate Her, it doesnt mean All Players Hate her
    just shut up and if you still hate her, just Ignore her

    • Falkend says:

      Agree.. Im one of the many Rose main players… Just like Batman said I didnt bring a fork to fight… Also im curious many people don like Rosee because guns or balance etc… First the are already gunners in elsword before Rose… second Elsword never will be balanced because arena salty players always want to win and cry like retars once they loose…. Is imposible to please everyone just dealt with it

      • Falkend says:

        i also hate mi phone keyboard….lol… some time ago i meet someone that loves megaman but hate rose…. wtf the principle is the same … side scrol shooting….

    • thatguy says:

      “just laugh because Rose Hater Comment
      even they use some fact to support his hate speech LOL
      what ever you talk about Rose
      Rose still alive, and she liked more than you know
      “all players hate Rose” really? are you sure 100% players hate Rose?
      because you hate Her, it doesnt mean All Players Hate her
      just shut up and if you still hate her, just Ignore her”

      You clearly have no idea what hate speech is if you are using that word over someone who doesn’t like the same fictional character as you

      *Cough * * Cough* the reaction when her 3rd job got revealed would like to have a word with you

  • Endgame says:

    KR Elsword Ranking Watch:

    http://www.gamemeca.com/popup/ranking.php?scode=O&rid=1391

    Only dropped one rank? Really? Long ass wait between batches of half-assed job advancements and this is how little your hype drops?

    I don’t know what’s more sad. That, or the fact that Closers’ salvation comes in the form of a 15 year old arrogant tsundere imouto jailbait character with a large forehead and tons of fake cuteness. (Her character select screen animation involves her sleeping, falling and hitting her head on the table, then crying about it. Because it’s kawaii and moe or some shit like that.) Closers is never getting a male character again. Wolfgang’s 3rd Job caused Closers to fall off the rankings…..

  • Flare Kyn says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuwIqdvpl8

    ……… Holy…… crap…. Lu’s voice, guys….

  • Croire says:

    “– Event 1. Elsword’s 10th Year, Thank you, We love you”
    if that is literally what the real translation is, I almost feel sorry for you KOG.

  • Endgame says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GaWADyYZYQ

    Similar outfit, longer hair…..

    …..

    Well, she certainly looks beautiful at any rate~.

    I think I even see a little chest growth.

  • B says:

    I’m still just confused why Reckless Fist is the official path for Raven in the story when his personality is literally like Blade Master when portrayed. If you’re gonna make a backstory for a path then you should stick to it.

    • Anon says:

      Technically, there are no canon paths. It’s more like a multiverse of split timelines in which any combination of the different paths for the different characters is possible. For example, in the Time Trouble light novel, Add is Time Tracer, and gets to know a search party composed of classes such as Code: Nemesis and Grand Archer. But when he is pulled into another universe, he encounters a search party containing Code: Empress and Night Watcher, and it’s hinted that the other Add in the universe is a Mastermind.

      Which characters join up and when varies too. Back to the Time Trouble example, in the books starting universe Ara is with the group from the start, but after the timeline gets reset it changes to the events that more closely resemble the game/anime.

      TLDR; there are no canon paths, or to be more accurate all paths are canon. The typical “Canon” classes are just the classes chosen by KoG to focus on in marketing. The anime seems to be another one of the split timelines mentioned by me above, in which events are slightly different than in the game but to a lesser extent than the Time Trouble light novel.

      • zetgeist says:

        the “canon” paths to kog` are all the first-line ones. of course, kog` also seems to pretend first promote doesn’t exist, since their “end of area” cutscenes jump from base to 2nd promote.

        the add/TT light novel wasn’t written by kog` themselves, kiiiiiinda doesn’t count.

        and then you have stuff where the story-at-large demands things. for example, the red knights are explicitly el-sister’s group that she founded and trained. this requires she go GM to be their leader, so BH is out. they’re still alive and went to hamel, so edgysis is out because that class’ stated story involves all of them dying at peita.

    • Edmund says:

      Because RF sticks to Raven’s original path, just like every other canon class

    • Endgame says:

      We’ve been over this. RF continues what base job does.

      Go over his base job skills again. Not a single sword skill. All claw skills.

      • Flare Kyn says:

        https://elwiki.net/w/Shadow_Step
        https://elwiki.net/w/Flame_Sword

        You were saying?

        I know one of those used to be exclusive to the Weapon Taker path, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s on base Raven now. As for the other, that’s ALWAYS been a skill that every Raven could learn (not sure if it was a base Raven skill or a skill that all his first jobs had, but it was still a skill accessible to every path).

        • Endgame says:

          Irrelevant. RF was chosen as Raven’s “canon” path BEFORE Flame Sword was given to base Raven.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Regardless, Shadow Step was still a skill that EVERY Raven could learn.

            Anyway, Anon’s actually right: all class combinations are technically Canon. I mean, didn’t KoG release a webcomic featuring Blade Master instead of Reckless Fist and Mastermind instead of Lunatic Psyker? So really, they could have just as easily made Blade Master the one in the cutscenes, or, if it had existed at the time those scenes were made, Weapon Taker.

      • zetgeist says:

        it’s kinda sad for raven that the “canon” route for him is to go completely insane as his arm turns into some kind of pseudo-demon and eats his brains, leaving him a mass of incoherent rage.

  • Endgame says:

    https://i.imgur.com/M2RyW8V.png

    This is a pillow of 15 year old girl Luna Aegis. The only other Closers character to get an official pillow from Naddic….. is Tina. A dead 12 year old girl having her body used by a robot.

    What the fuck?!

    I blame Lu for this shit. kMMOs weren’t big on the sexualization of underage girls like their Japanese neighbors until Lu came along.

    Thanks for being a carrier for Japan’s sickness KOG.

    • BAJAJA says:

      -laughs like Ra from Smite-
      Srsly, that does NOT look adorbs

    • Croire says:

      Screw the lolis, I want my flat chest Seulbi school swimsuit pillow

    • Elrios Dweller says:

      *Implying that Koreans themselves never had this kind of diseases.

      Boy, you must’ve never knew about a lof of Manhwa then. A lot of them are basically pointless story of sex. Which is ridiculous, really.

      Since Korea and Japan are pretty close to each others, you really should expect more stuffs like this starting to intermingle with their respective cultures.

      • Elrios Dweller says:

        Must’ve never known*
        Err, I’m not good at english after all

      • Endgame says:

        I’m talking specifically about the fascination with underage girls. Not the sexualization in general.

        Lolis in general weren’t really that much of a thing in kMMOs. But then along comes Lu and her pedo butler who I can only assume was tacked on to her to allow people to self-insert….. (That, or to shut up the people whining about wanting male characters even though they just got Add…..)

        And now….. there’s more loli NPCs popping up and playable female characters are getting younger.

        And I have to deal with Luna’s panties in my face every time I start a stage or move between segments because unfortunately, leveling up Luna straight up boosts everyone else’s damage with raw Attack and Critical Hit Damage. Argh…..

        Oh, and did I mention she uses a selfie-stick to take pictures of herself as one of her victory animations? She’s pure cancer…..

        • Elrios Dweller says:

          Calm down a bit. I don’t know about the other games, but it’s a common fantasy trope to have an overpowered loli, for some reasons. Since Elsword is already a fantasy-based MMO, what should be preventing them from expanding the world? You shouldn’t blame KoG for making Lu. Instead, you should be hating the pedophile players instead, because they’re the one spreading the diseases.

          Though, there’s no absolute proof of KoG being the only one to be blamed for the spreading of loli characters in KMMOs, right? It’s not like KoG affects the whole KMMOs in general, chill a bit Endy. Some people have different tastes (of course, not all of them are good. Some of them are totally disgusting). I mean, a lot of people prefer cuteness over beauty, you know? Yeah, characters do tend to be loved more because of how they look, which is quite strange tbh.

          As for the selfie stick victory poses, that is weird indeed. I’m not sure whether it’s irritating or not, but yeah, it’s a cheap way to increase the cuteness factor. Quite sad, really. At least, you made her sounds like a useful support, which is… good, I guess?

          A little side note, but you seem to be putting a lot of your own point of view, mixing some facts of course, and present them as a fact.

          • Endgame says:

            The thing about Lu is that she (and Ciel, but much like Raven he’s only popular in the west) is that she was a successful character. She opened the floodgates by showing that the lolicons weren’t as contained within Japan as originally thought. Now the other companies see this, and, well…..

            …..Nowadays Lu gets the most fanart. Not just on Pixiv where it’s expected since it’s a Japanese site. Also on the KR website. Out of all the third job fanart, she by far got the most.

            And yes. The selfie-stick victory pose IS fucking annoying. I’ve had to endure it hundreds of times these past two days…..

            For another example of KOG making the industry worse: Closers NA wouldn’t have Stamina if they haven’t seen NA Elsword get away with it for years.

            And then NA Soul Worker, whenever that comes out, is going to see it can get away with Stamina when removing such systems from NA versions used to be the norm…..

            KOG is a corrupting influence.

          • Elrios Dweller says:

            So long as they don’t create horrible cliche, annoying characters, be it lolis or not, I don’t think KMMOs will get worse in general. Regardless however, the pedos and the pervs will appear anyway. Not much can be done with that. Let’s just hope they don’t oversexualises their own characters, because that is just plain sad and disgusting.

            Asides from that, is the stamina system really that bad? 3 years in Elsword, and I don’t really mind it tbh. Maybe that’s just me though.

          • Endgame's Attention Giver says:

            This dude, why does Endgame act like KOG causes everything.
            You act like Elsword was the first game that used a Stamina system.

            Helllooooooo?
            DFO? and if you really want to get technical, TibiaMMO was released in 1997, one of the oldest MMOs that still has a pretty active playerbase, and it also has a Stamina System.

            The reason these Korean games keep the Stamina systems in the West is most likely to stall our playtime so we don’t reach “endgame” too quickly then have nothing to do besides level alts.
            There is also the fact that Stamina systems sorta help prevent gold farming bots and stuff.

            Closers was going to have a Stamina system, whether Elsword ever existed or not.
            “Players consume faster than developers can realistically produce quality content.”

            “KOG is a corrupting influence.”
            No, they aren’t. You’re just being a delusional retard at this point dude.
            Banned from the old Elsword forums and always complaining about the game and ‘surprised’ it not dead, yada yada, yet continues to come back/play.

            Seems 100% like someone is in need of a couple of ‘real’ friends, not just people who listen to your constant whining via;Discord/Skype.
            I feel bad for the fake friends you rant to everyday.

          • Endgame says:

            The Stamina system IS that bad. Especially in NA Elsword which even has (had?) grossly inflated EXP tables compared to the Korean version.

            If you don’t notice it, it’s probably because you’re level 99 and thus have little to no reason to PVE at this point. If a new player wants to join and catch up to his/her friends, ha. S/He’s ragequitting before getting there.

          • Flare Kyn says:

            EVERY SINGLE RPG THAT EXISTS (Exaggeration) HAS YOU REQUIRE MORE EXP TO LEVEL UP AS YOUR LEVEL INCREASED! KOG IS NOT EVEN THE FIRST COMPANY TO DO *THAT*! HECK, THEY MOST LIKELY AREN’T EVEN THE FIRST KOREAN MMO COMPANY TO HAVE INFLATED EXP TABLES WITH STAMINA! SO STOP BLAMING KOG FOR SHIT PEOPLE HAVE DONE BEFORE KOG EVEN FUCKING EXISTED!

          • Flare Kyn says:

            Little to no reason to PvE? Um…. EL RESONANCE! ONLY LEVEL 99 CHARS CAN FARM IT, AND IT GAINS EXP JUST LIKE NORMAL LEVELS DO! SO NO, THERE’S NOT LITTLE TO NO REASON TO PVE, BECAUSE EL RESONANCE IS A PRETTY BIG REASON TO PVE!

          • Flare Kyn says:

            AND EL RESONANCE ALSO HAS INFLATED TABLES, SO EVEN LEVEL 99 PLAYERS WOULD NOTICE IT AS THEY LEVELED UP THEIR EL RESONANCE!

          • Endgame says:

            Inflated EXP tables compared to KR, you fucking braindead simpleton.

          • thatguy says:

            @ endgame’s attention giver

            The reason these Korean games keep the Stamina systems in the West is most likely to stall our playtime so we don’t reach “endgame” too quickly then have nothing to do besides level alts.
            There is also the fact that Stamina systems sorta help prevent gold farming bots and stuff.”

            Its because ppl will put so much Time in gaming they forget to feed themselves and die from starvation remember those cases of ppl dying in internet cafes you know THAT

          • Endgame says:

            Stamina systems don’t do shit to bots. They just switch accounts/characters and keep on botting.

            It only hurts legitimate players.

    • LuckyDucky says:

      Endy’s showing off his new waifu!

      She’s a cutie. I might try out Closers for her. :3

  • Endgame says:

    Just saw the 10th Anniversary cut-ins.

    RESS showing everyone that he was the best artist.

    …..I’m not a fan of whatever the fuck is happening with Ara’s boobs in her picture though. Are they being squeezed? By what, exactly?

  • AzureStratt says:

    since they released the 1st path 3rd jobs trailer with all the classes 5 days before the actual release maybe they will do the same with the 2nd paths. The release is on the 28th right?

  • ark says:

    i am hype for mm, vp, and ga!!

    • Croire says:

      An actual hopeful soul.
      But Im still placing my bets on Kog closing Elsword by around 2020.

      • Endgame says:

        That’s a little generous.

        I’m expecting the service end announcement mid-2019 at the absolute latest. After the last batch of 3rd Jobs the hype is going to drop dead even harder than it did after Ain’s third path last January.

        KurtzPel is just going to hasten the process~.

      • TardkynFC says:

        We know both elsword NA and KR have been downhilled for recent years.
        3rd classes that were supposed to be life extension are not as impressive as ppl hyped. Some even feel disappointed for various reasons. I joked with my friend that they should make 10th anniversary event as grand as possible since they might not have a chance to do it next year, which my friend agreed.

  • MagicSpice says:

    So…. why is it that pretty much 95% of this page is nothing but arguements that Endgame started?

  • Xenosamus says:

    This is why elshit sucks besides this company having zero sense and balance every time a new update is released they always reset a fucking grind each time a new costume comes out there it resets to grind each time and new event comes out look that resets the grind no matter what type of progress you doing this game what new updates come out the game resets to zero putting you right back to square one so what’s the point especially since the game is a giant in a wall there’s no point there’s no point sitting there constantly repeatedly going out of your pocket to just continuously keep the progress you have when you know it’s just going to reset in the next update whether it’s a class balance or an event of day or a new dungeon it doesn’t matter whatever klg brings to the table in resets your current game progress. And that’s the real reason why all sword will never be what it was

    • Xenosamus says:

      And to all those people that are fixing to like a disagree let me just say this you don’t have a choice and whether you want to continuously play the game and be the best you don’t have a choice if you commit to the game you have to reset if you want to keep your current progress in the game and continuously do new contact that they release you have to invest into the game you have to reset if you’re the type of person that likes to go for leaderboards PVP or just do the hardest dungeons that this game fails to have then you have to reset the only way to keep up in this game is to reset every single time and if you’re the type of person that does not like to come out of your pocket for a game even if you just really love it you’ll eventually just hate it because it forces you to pay money to reset to keep your current progress in the game you’ll just see no point in continuously wanting to play it even if you do have friends

  • Norigatsu says:

    Can we just talk about how 3rd job mastermind? And how much KoG just spit on LP mains? Like…seriusly tho…new MM is 100%, legit, no homo, fine as fuck. He is what should be considered a continuation of what MM impersonated, not only that all details have a meaning, starting from his now freshly cutted hair (no lab scientist goes around with long hairs) and even going with his dynamoz that are in sync with Apocalypse.
    MEANWHILE doom bringer not only has a stupid as fuck name but becomes a gangsta for no reason whatsoever. I get that LP should be a street brawler but, from that to a mafia boss is a REALLY long way. He even has a messy appearance (stripped shirt, loose belts) which is higly incongruent with LP and PT otherwise more tidy outfit (i know PT has and open jacket flapping, but from that to a One Piece marine officer style coat is a long way). The style of the dynamos is even more incongruent if you consider how broader and less spiky his dynamos were both as an LP and a PT.
    The only good things about his designs imo are the absence of his choker and the plasma corruption on his body after continuous use of plasma and the nasod armor (the black under his stripped shirt i think that’s his flesh that has been charred) that goes whitysh/purple when he uses plasma

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