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FlareKyn (talkcontribs)

This is just a guess, but based on the fact that the Empire Sword path's story video depicts her being in Bethma before becoming Grand Master in Feita, as well as Elesis having asked Allegro to keep quiet about her involvement in the investigation of the Black Forest, I believe that it's possible that as she was returning to Velder from Ruben, she passed through Feita a second time a bit after Elsword's group left for Velder and actually did encounter demons there, but chose to keep quiet about it for one reason or another.

FlareKyn (talkcontribs)

Reading through the Vanessa's Message quest again, Elesis said that the "unknown beasts", which were likely the demons, had appeared several years ago, so I think there was still time between then and her arriving in Velder for her to have encountered the demons in Feita.

ED Senne (talkcontribs)

It would be fairly unusual of Elesis to lie like that, though not impossible.

In any case, I decided to go through all the primary canon (Before Joining + Epic Quests) again involving this, and as far as I can tell, Before Joining must occur just barely after the events of Altera, at the onset of the demon invasion.

Chung asks the Red Knights for aid against enemies that they describe in a way that matches Elesis's knowledge of demons from her encounter with Chloe. As such, the full scale demon invasion must have just started, and at this point in time, the ESP is in Ruben to recuperate until they get a distress call from Feita.

Before Joining!Elesis is already Grand Master (or at the very least, Saber Knight), in my opinion. And her line in chapter 10 "I guess we barely missed each other." on passing through Feita ahead of the ESP isn't a hyperbole, it really was "just barely", a matter of weeks at most. Velder (and by extension Feita) must have fallen not soon after she departed (gee what a coincidence, wouldn't you say, Owen?)

Also, this is all ignoring the fact that Saber Knight is crowned by Vanessa, and Saber Knight's background states that title allows her to move freely across the continent without constraints. So it can't occur prior to Before Joining (she isn't a free knight able to just leave at this point) and seems wildly unlikely to occur after because I'd like to assume Vanessa has her hands full with a demon invasion, not take a trip to Shadow Forest to make Elesis a Saber Knight.

FlareKyn (talkcontribs)

I get what you're saying, but Elesis specifically said the beasts, which matched what Elly knew about demons, had appeared, and I quote, "several years ago". Based on the canon ages of the classes (which I personally think are bunk for certain reasons that I won't go into, but they're still canon), only a single year passed between the first job advancements and the second job advancements, so they had to have come when Elsword's group encountered Berthe in Ruben and Banthus stole the El Shard (which I only just now remembered happening) at the latest.

This is just speculation, but I believe the comment about them having missed each other could have actually referred to her second Feita visit on the way back to Velder, not her first one that Before Joining depicts, but phrased to be deliberately vague on the matter.

As for the Saber Knight thing, my best guess is that that's also the only path where she actually is/continues to be a Velder Knight, as the other path's story videos still depict her outside of Velder despite never becoming Saber Knight. You are probably right about her already being Saber Knight before the Before Joining quests, though, since the story quests specifically depict the main story paths. The other paths probably had similar events, but altered to fit their backgrounds.

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