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-== Ara stance skill names. ==
+== Dungeon Modifiers? ==
-if u wan to change Asura names to the full names, pls change it for the other jobs also.
--I've been busy with the holidays. I will continue to work on them soon.
+What do you mean by that?
-== About skills' names ==
+-- Lu's damage is extremely irregular compared to everyone else on certain commands. Whereas calculating % for other characters will always result in a value ending in X.9XXXX (ie 272.932574 => 273%), Lu's do not. As happens to be the case, the gap between her attacks that have this hidden modifier and those that don't is much lower in PvP, implying these are specifically dungeon-related damage boosts innate to the character (which isn't unique to her actually, Chung used to have them too, maybe even still does).
+We used to list them next to the values (ie her first Z is x1.1, her second Z is x1.5 etc). I'm not sure why that was removed (clutter maybe?) but they ended up being incorporated into the % on the page, PvP accuracy be damned, apparently. --[[User:ED Senne|ED Senne]] ([[User talk:ED Senne|talk]]) 21:08, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
-Hello, I'm asking why you change the name of the skills of Noblesse because on this list, some of the name are different : https://41.media.tumblr.com/689f38060e9b39f7a62806906d4f40cf/tumblr_njmm06lFiF1t6tj60o3_540.png <br>
+== Lab flasks? ==
-Unless you can read Korean. Sorry for the mistakes I'm tired, it's 5AM in my country [[User talk:Antiaris]]<br>
-EDIT : forgot to mention that the list is from the data
-Data names are not always (very frequently not) the same as the ingame names. "Summon Familiar" is called "Soul Sigil" ingame, which is what we should use on the wiki.
+Do you mean the ones attached to his belt (or whatever it is)?  'Cause they're part of his promo costume.
-== About the NA tab in DE's skills ==
+-- Yes, those. I overly simplified my edit message a bit I guess; I meant they were missing a function and never show up in skills, serving no functional purpose and as such acting the same as Empire Sword's flag (which while absent on the promo does show up in poses). --[[User:ED Senne|ED Senne]] ([[User talk:ED Senne|talk]]) 08:37, 24 January 2018 (EST)
-/06/2014 KR patch has not updated in NA, so i left the skill information before the patch for the coming DE. --[[User:IceSoulMOG|IceSoulMOG]] ([[User talk:IceSoulMOG|talk]]) 20:14, 17 February 2015 (EST)
+== Hello ==
--I am aware now, I've left them in for the skills after I realized what you were doing. Apologies for removing space crack's NA table. --[[User:ED Senne|ED Senne]] ([[User talk:ED Senne|talk]]) 20:18, 17 February 2015 (EST)
+I don't know how to talk where you send me the message. But thank you for correcting me, I was trying to undo my changes, but you were one step ahead of me. Sorry, I didn't mean to change her backstory, and no it wasn't any belief that I had, I must of just misunderstood it. Again thank you for clearing that up for me
-== midair skill ==
+Yes, I won't touch it. Thank you! O/
-just leave it there, 'for consistency with all other air-ok skills' im working to change them also but not enf time. i already did those i did the description i gotten from NA/UK.
+ I'm not sure if this is true, but is what he saying is true. Then isn't Nisha's using Laby's body? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWAdCsNfoBE]?
--Waiting for Vicky to get back to me on this. He went to sleep now though.
+== Hi! ==
+Just wanted to ask, how do you know about 7/04 Patch Notes? (came from Giant Wheel edit) --[[User:Ritsu|Ritsu]] ([[User talk:Ritsu|talk]]) 07:35, 27 June 2019 (EDT)
-== promo ==
+-- http://elsword.nexon.com/news/update/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=972 --[[User:ED Senne|ED Senne]] ([[User talk:ED Senne|talk]]) 07:37, 27 June 2019 (EDT)
-as for the promo effects, i specifically remember my Lu base set having green words on it. Also u would need to show me proof that it wasn't there. also its already after the release so even if it doesnt have before but now have, the trivia is not invalid.
--I've went over it with everyone that had a ChA/RG on release of those two classes and they all agree with me there were no bonuses. If anything, I just need proof for if they do have bonuses now or not. I'll be making a new level 15 Luciel soon to check.
+*Thanks~! --[[User:Ritsu|Ritsu]] ([[User talk:Ritsu|talk]]) 07:39, 27 June 2019 (EDT)
-Here's a video proving the base costume had no promo bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fANzcpTo-U
-Will confirm soon if it does now or not when I get home.
-== Gallery ==
+== Varnimyr's meaning ==
-i splited the gallery into artwork and misc to separate artwork from others. Posters and old cutin are still consider artwork.<br>
+I checked [https://namu.wiki/w/%EB%B0%94%EB%8B%88%EB%AF%B8%EB%A5%B4/%EC%97%90%ED%94%BD%20%ED%80%98%EC%8A%A4%ED%8A%B8 namu wiki]. NA didn't translate the last two lines.
--Then do explain why in the world the ingame skill cutins arent under artwork? Hell, everything BUT ingame models should qualifiy as artwork then. The naming doesn't make sense to begin with.<br>
-If it has a full body cutin already, the ingame 1 should be removed, but kenny said to leave it there as a keepsake or something. if i can i would remove them.<br>
+응? 그게 무슨 뜻이냐고? 흠... 그들은 바니미르라고 변형해서 부르지만...<br>
--Ken didn't specify a section for them, so regardless, they should go under artwork. Anything that's "drawn" should be under artwork. Feel free to come up with new section names though, because Artwork and Miscellaneous are vague anyway.<br>
+...거짓된 고향. 뭐, 대충 그런 의미야.
-hmm just remove the ingame cutin then. Just dun remove the old 1 like LK's.<br>
+KOG explained the meaning of Varnimyr is "false hometown"(거짓된 고향).
--I'll go make a thread on the forums about how to properly revamp the Gallery section of elwiki. There's barely any consistency or guidelines as to what goes where right now...best let the users help us out.
+-[[User:IceSoulMOG|IceSoulMOG]] ([[User talk:IceSoulMOG|talk]]) 10:22, 20 August 2019 (EDT)
-==FI1 chain==
+-- I know, I forgot to add that. NA did translate that part too, apologies. The elves themselves say  "...false home, well, I guess it could be considered that, yes", so it's not as direct of a translation, and the meaning is very close to the root translation as well. I'll add it in a bit.
-How can it not be true when I tested it?
-I started out with 1 press (I failed to find the timing for it) and progressed until 5.
-First test is to quickly press it during Cantabile. Second is to quickly press it during Accelerando. Third is quickly pressing in between both parts (kinda overlapping). Fourth is pressing in longer intervals stretching out to the full skill duration. Last is press and hold (to move) and then release.
+== Huh? ==
-I have tried all these with and without FI2 in my skill slots.
+Are you saying that you can do the Trans skill quest in Elysion now and not just Atlas?  'Cause I was sure the Trans quest could only be done in Atlas and not Elysion. [[User:FlareKyn|FlareKyn]] ([[User talk:FlareKyn|talk]]) 10:39, 7 December 2019 (EST)
+* Yes. The first one was updated from just Lanox to Lanox ~ Atlas, while the second one was updated from just Atlas to Atlas ~ Elysion. So you can now do both at the same time by just doing Atlas only - I was just looking for alternatives since the shadow clones were listed as minibosses on the wiki (which would be 5/7 in one run, similar to 4/7 for Lanox doing Grand Chasm), but nope, they're not minibosses. At least just doing Atlas on its own for both quests is still very fast so I ain't complaining.
+**Huh, didn't know that.  Babel didn't say anything about it, and the skill quest page hasn't been updated for it.  Thanks for letting me know.  [[User:FlareKyn|FlareKyn]] ([[User talk:FlareKyn|talk]]) 05:22, 8 December 2019 (EST)
-All of them worked for 5 presses. I can't provide a vid unfortunately, but if you wouldn't mind, why not test it out?
+== Re: Scans/Uploads ==
-I know it's easier to spam it but wouldn't it be better to know what the requirement actually is? For the sake of knowing.
+Hi! I'm not entirely sure if this is how replying works on the wiki, but regardless, thank you for letting me know the issues with uploading artbook scans--I understand. I have another question related to uploading images: Would uploading rips from the game onto pages be alright (ie. story portrait expressions not currently on the wiki)? If so, would it be appropriate to put them in character galleries or should another page/section be made? If not, thank you! I will continue to support the wiki in others ways. :]
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--You may as well go test every single Ara skill and both Dead Hands into Ruinous Impact and Dead Hands into Dark Crescent, as well as Demonic Breath into Eschaton then. It's not something a lot of people (if any) will ever have issues with. Same goes for just normal combos. There are a lot of other things in the game as well that are said to only need X amount of button presses, but where trying to do just that is excruciatingly difficult compared to just spamming it. You're free to add the line again, just know that it's fairly irrelevant for most players.
+--[[User:Restoreheart|Restoreheart]] ([[User talk:Restoreheart|talk]]) 07:42, 19 May 2020 (PST)
-Then what's the point of wikis then? The small details? This and that?
+== Gottvergessen Sense Henir Release Proof ==
-It might be irrelevant to you and to some more players but it's definitely something worth knowing for my kind.
-There was certainly nothing wrong with the info I provided so I don't see any reason to omit it.
+Hi, I do have a Youtube video to prove it but it seems like I cannot send link for "blacklist reason" ?
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--I already said I'm fine with you adding the info again. I'm just pointing out that there are so many other things in the game that have a similar (non-)issue so doing it for just one skill out of all of that would be rather out of place.
+== My Bad ==
-== skill attributes ==
+I was completely emptying my ECP and seeing how long it took to fill back up, not realizing it refilled faster in Over Strike.  [[User:FlareKyn|FlareKyn]] ([[User talk:FlareKyn|talk]]) 22:46, 29 June 2021 (CEST)
-KR changed the format for the skill attributes. instead of skill name - attribute, its now attribute skill name. plz keep this in mind for future edits.
+== About Knight Emperor ==
--I haven't added any new attributes or anything, I simply edited what was already there. I know KR changed the format, and I'll write it like that when I add stuff, but it wasn't my primary objective on the ones I edited earlier.
+I think the reason why "wind" was listed as one of Knight Emperor's weapons was because of [[Windmill]] (especially the mod version, which fires mini-storms forwardas you hold it), [[Sandstorm]] (which is a literal mini-tornado), and [[Wind Slicer]] (its attacks are literally called "Wind Attacks" (and I checked it in-game on the NA server as I was typing this)).  If you don't think those are good enough, though, then you should also change [[Lord Knight]], which also has "wind" listed as a weapon.  [[User:FlareKyn|FlareKyn]] ([[User talk:FlareKyn|talk]]) 10:19, 19 July 2021 (CEST)
+I understand where it would have come from, but then we might as well add wind to a whole bunch of characters where it is simply produced by their weapon being swung hard enough: Think of things like [[Shockwave - Divider]], [[Genocide Cross]] or [[Brutal Swing]]. Removing it from LK too. --[[User:ED Senne|ED Senne]] ([[User talk:ED Senne|talk]]) 10:45, 19 July 2021 (CEST)
+== Secret Arts ==
+The Secret Arts for the other paths will need to be moved as well, since they only use their shortened names.  [[User:FlareKyn|FlareKyn]] ([[User talk:FlareKyn|talk]]) 11:33, 18 February 2022 (CET)
+*I'm well aware. Just trying to figure some stuff out regarding the green colour on the 4th stance pages, since typing out the full name twice just to have it colored green is frustrating... [[User:ED Senne|ED Senne]] ([[User talk:ED Senne|talk]])
+== About Your Communication - Restoration Suggestion ==
+Spectral Spear isn't a Chain Skill, and I don't see any suggestions to make it one.  [[User:FlareKyn|FlareKyn]] ([[User talk:FlareKyn|talk]]) 22:40, 18 January 2023 (CET)
+*It's not mentioned yet because I'm not at Spectral Spear yet... :worrystare: (if you must know, it'd be into Rain of Chaos, naturally)
+== Aura of Punishment Suggestion ==
+Similar Skills tend to use the same animation as Awakening (with the exception of Seal of Time, but that makes sense due to Add's non-standard Awakening), and Ciel uses his Awakening animation with Aura of Punishment, so I think Lu's animation for Aura of Punishment should be changed to her Awakening Animation instead of the Force Skill or Soul Sigel animations.  [[User:FlareKyn|FlareKyn]] ([[User talk:FlareKyn|talk]]) 00:58, 19 January 2023 (CET)
+== Casting speed ==
+Hi, not sure if I'm doing this right, sorry if not, but if it's ok to ask questions here I wanted to know if there are plans to add to skills their casting times, like sometimes it's indicated if a skill scales or not with attack speed, but it would be cool to also know the base casting time of a skill, to grasp better their dps capabilityes
+* I think you're asking the wrong person, but no, there are no plans to add it. It's too difficult to measure accurately and many other factors modify the casting speed (such as animation cancel after casting). We don't even have the Action Speed table on a quarter of skills anyway. <span class="sig"><span class="sig-icon">[[File:Ritsu-Logo.png|15px]]</span>'''[[User:Ritsu|Ritsu]]''' ([[User talk:Ritsu|talk]])</span> 12:19, 11 July 2023 (CEST)
+* I see it just felt like was the last thing missing to try to make a rough estimate of a potential dps for a class, since we have ashal for everything but skills and then we have skill damages but lack the frame of time upon that damage is done, but yeah without tables one would have to measure it himself by casting skills wich can be a little inaccuarate, also sorry to you and to senne, didn't really know who to write for this, thanks for answering my question, and if I have a similiar one next time would be ok to ask you? -Redew 18:18, 12 July 2023 (CEST)