04AM ~ 11AM (7 hours)
# Event
1. Mock Exam Event
– Bring back Luriel’s lost test papers and get various magic stones as reward(Sage,Secret,Ereda Island dual stones)
– Attendance event for Ice Burners, Fossil readers and magic amulets
– 2015 05 28 ~ 2015 06 11
# Cash Shop
[New]
1. New Ice Burner[Velder Academy Knights]
– New Ice Burner [Velder Academy Knights]
– 2015 05 28 ~ 2015 08 27
* Can’t obtain Earth Power item to craft Salvatore Gaia set after maintenance
2. Custom: Tree stump of Memories
– New Custom Item [Custom Chair] updated
– The first ever [Custom Chair] ‘Tree Stump of Memories’ released
– Can be purchased in cash shop in ‘커스텀 모션’ category
– Custom Chair is activated by [B] key or commands /앉기, /앉기1, /앉기2
– 2015 05 28 ~ always
[End]
1. Life Crystal (Eltrion Jr.)
-Can be obtained from Fossil Reader
2. NBS Lu and Ciel
3. Salvatore Gaia IB set
Crafting ends on 06 11
4. Avatar : Office Look
# Changes
[LuCiel changes]
1. Avatar and Accessory stats stack
– Stacked stats for Lu and Ciel’s avatars and accessories. (Example: u can have 2 full IB sets for Lu an Ciel and both their set effects will stack )
– Stats that are stacked : Additional Effects, Socket Effects, Set Effects
– Set effects can also be activated by Lu and Ciel each wearing different parts
Ex) If you need 3 parts for the set effect, Lu can wear one and Ciel can wear 2 to activate the set effect.
– But, Magic Necklace(II), Ereda Necklace, Ring of Fury, Skill Rings effects…and effects that increase skill level won’t stack.
Retracted for further consideration.
2. Character Change key added
– Press V key to switch between characters in Town and Field
– There is no cooldown, Super armor while character is switching.
– Can activate in all ready, walking, running positions
– No combination point gained for using V key.
[Character]
1. Infinity Sword Fixed Phantom Sword skill’s first hit not working when using the skill while Phantom Sword is active.
2. Infinity Sword ‘Final Strike’ Infinite hit bug fixed.
3. Weapon Taker ‘Harpoon Spear’ Fixed bug where flames was hitting targets that are one floor above.
<Update Item Preview>
– Custom: Tree stump of memories –
Chairs? Lol, was expecting this to happen. Actually thought about this around 6 months ago. xD
Finally they’re fixing that bullshit final strike bug too. :D
Super armor when switching? Yes pls! :D
They should allow the effect of RoF to work when using ciel, i dont get a bead when i wear it on ciel, but i do when i use it on Lu.
Still waiting for 4 things: Skill wipe and complete revamp. New raid boss. LuCiel 3rd path. Story revamp. Where the fuck they at? We are already through half the year and still no actual promises being delivered. These 4 things are what Elsword needs. Yet they won’t do it? At least do it for the extra money you’ll get. (Sometimes being selfish benefits others)
” Stats that are stacked : Additional Effects, Socket Effects, Set Effects”
They really ignored balance AGAIN. Especially for the Sockets Effects part.
Works with LuCiel only. Is this what we call, jump to conclusions? I don’t even need to go in detail why you are wrong, go play LuCiel more and find out.
True. this fixes the main reason why people only play one of the characters instead of both.
Lu and Ciel are actually weaker than the other playables, so stacking their stats actually makes sense. And they’re not allowing effects related to skill levels to stack.
I honestly think that was a GOOD choice.
DAFUQ?! THEY CANCELED THE CHARACTER CHANGE KEY?!
KoG better have A DAMN GOOD REASON!!
Probably because of glitching and people gettingvannoyed when people spam the “v” key. Hell, i know I’d get really annoyed.
IT WASN’T EVEN IN THE GAME YET, HOW COULD PEOPLE GET ANNOYED?!
I mean, having a Super Armor switching key that has no cooldown of any sort certainly would be annoying.
Because, you know, things like that shouldn’t exist.
But hey, these are the same people are thinking Lu/Ciel being able to have 66% more stats than the other characters is a great idea because of Lu/Ciel’s proclaimed “weakness”.
That update was postponed too, btw.
I actually think they should have the stacked sockets, too.
I haven’t played them myself so I can’t be 100% sure, but from what I know Lu and Ciel kinda aren’t “up there”.
Also, those people should learn to fucking read BECAUSE THE SWITCH KEY WAS ONLY GONNA BE USABLE IN TOWNS AND FIELDS!
What do you know, there’s a limit on how many replies you can reply to a reply.
Anyway, unlike the stacked stats(holy shit just half the price of Lu and Ciel avatars to collectively make one character.) failed attempt at avatar unification, the V key switching probably was glitched beyond belief. I wouldn’t really be worrying about it(since I can read), but I was answering in the context of the post you replied to so forgive me.
ALSO THE CUSTOM CHAIRS ARE AMAZING
I meant problems that could happen not did happen. ._.
Salvatore Rosso?
Unfortunately, no.
SS wings catcopy again!? again!? ewwwww!!!
and mabinogi’s chair accessories catcopy too, well I want now
It’s copycat, not catcopy. Even my spellchecker thinks catcopy isn’t a word.
right grammars dont give me +11 ammy, who cares
You actually should care because then you won’t be seen as a moron.
And trust me, there ARE people who are gonna insult you just because you don’t care about grammer.
grammar*
I always thought it was grammer.
Well, guess I’ll see how long I can remember “grammar”.
Now who’s the moron
In my defense, “grammer” sounded right to me.
seem like they think luciel isn’t OP enough
they already postpone the update btw
“We made these new characters with the intention of them being perfect. We failed to even make them more powerful than the previous newer character that no one who’s still playing the game is smart enough to learn to fight against. So let’s give them higher stats than everyone else! Huh? What’s that? Lord Knight, Dimension Witch, Blade Master, and Code Nemesis are in dire needs of buffs and not any of the newer characters? Let’s buff Rena first! Oh, and can you all please play Aima? We wasted a lot of money developing this piece of shit instead of sustaining Grand Chase which the fanbase proved they still very much like. And….. damn, we’re screwed! Quick! Let’s break out another Jump! Event with free level 70 characters and +10 weapons for everyone!” -KOG
I know Nintendo can get away with such braindead decisions because they have built up blind brand loyalty morons over the course of decades, and Splatoon is guaranteed to sell at least 400k despite idiocy like no voice chat and the like, and Wii was a fluke that generated billions. But just how the hell does KOG still stand?!
You’ve never played Luciel have you.
I know I haven’t, but it surprises me that some people think LuCiel is in some of the higher tiers.
It’s ’cause of those vids of players soloing Secrets with them, isn’t it? Hey, guess what people, there are vids like that for ALMOST EVERY OTHER SECOND JOB, IF NOT EVERY SECOND JOB! So that pretty much proves NOTHING!!
There are obviously gonna be people who get good enough with a class to be able to solo any dungeon with them, but that doesn’t mean they’re in the top tiers.
anon, it’s no different than what you see in the mapleshitty community. a new class comes out, some overfunded .kr no-lifer shells out retarded amounts of money to get the class spewing damagecapped hits, and everyone presumes that’s normal performance and cries for a nerf.
basically youtube is cancer for these games. people latch on to whatever the biggest showoff does as “normal” no matter what.
I don’t think it was just the stats, though. I think they also understand LuCiel and the dungeons they run.
Also, I’ve never seem the maplestory community.
I actually have for that free NX event they had last Winter, because I wanted to get some NX to spend on Closers and since I was on KR anyway, I figured I may as well.
Their base job was weak. Like, weaker than base Raven pre-Power Assault buff weak.
And yes, their 2nd Jobs aren’t that strong either. But as usual, the Elsword community overreacts to YouTube videos without actually comprehending what’s going on in them. (At the beginning of NA, people thought LK and BM were the most overpowered classes because of people like Pandamaare making those flashy combo videos that aren’t even practical. Even when Pandamaare admitted they’re just for show, and I, someone who mained LK at the time, was explaining to them that they are in fact, the worst off….. for the exact same reasons they’re considered on the same level as DW and CN now. Well, at least they caught on eventually…..)
However, Lu and Ciel are NOT on the same level as LK, DW, BM, and CN. Nor is allowing them to get much higher stats than everyone else (not counting passives. Stack all the Red Damage you want demons, you’ll never catch up to GM’s Knight’s Destiny boosted damage mitigation.) a viable solution to them being weaker. Especially not when there’s plenty of classes they are NOT weaker than. Even outside of the forementioned bottom four, RS has never been that well off outside of temporarily having Sword Fire as a PVP instakill before the ST Revamp, Chung’s not doing too well in PVE these days, WS never did well in PVE, RF isn’t that well off, VP was effectively gutted in PVP after they nerfed the gravity ball launch, etc.
Lu and Ciel are weak compared to the top characters, yes. But there’s plenty of classes beneath them.
WS not doing well in PvE?
I have had a long, LONG time of not using WS, or any Rena for that matter, and when I did use WS again, I was surprisingly dominating Velder’s dungeons. And yeah, I know Velder ain’t the best example, but considering how long it’s been since I used Rena, it still says something.
It’s pretty much only early game. Rena’s PvE game falls off a cliff once you reach level cap. If you’re still dominating with WS by then, you must have partied with the worst pubs ever. She’s lacking in clearing, bossing, utility, even her attack stats are some of the worst amongst all the classes.
Rena is pvp only kiddo. She is trash in pve.
GA is pvp only? Dang, I must be using Gungnir wrong. Well back to using mounts only.
Malle, you are clearly blind and ignorant.
I was DOMINATING the Velder dungeons! As in, DOING PRETTY DAMN GOOD! Infact, I think I got at least A rank when I was doing them.
…A rank in dungeons is completely average; KOG would have to be stupider than they’ve ever been to make a character unable to easily get an A rank on any on-level normal dungeon.
What matters most is generally solo times with similar gear, especially if the character’s support abilities don’t largely speed up a party dungeon run.
Non-GA Renas are not that great in PvE when compared to most other classes, moreso after the ‘damage decreased over time’ nerfs made Phoenix Strike less useful.
Keep in mind that it was when I HAVEN’T USED ANY RENA IN A WHILE! And I actually have had lower ranks outside of Secret dungeons.
A Rank may be one of the easier ranks, but just the fact that I could get it AFTER A LONG TIME OF NOT USING RENA, and not to mention I am by FAR not the best player in the game, I’d say WS ISN’T garbage. Infact, I found that she actually has a really good flow. I think she’s just underrated.
a rank is something that is extremely easy to achieve. unless you were afk, it’s pretty hard not to get at least a. rank is also not really reflective of how much you actually contributed to the party since it takes into account combo and technique score as well, which actually penalises high damage (since you just need a couple hits to kill everything).
i can get ss easily on nw but that doesn’t mean she’s god-tier at pve
Actually, soloing S rank is easy when you’re far ahead in levels.
My lvl 70 IS solo-S’d Altera Core and Alter of Dedication before they got revamped.
The times I got B or under actually WEREN’T runs where I was AFK. I was actually trying to clear the dungeons with the best ranks that I could. But that was when I was using chars I WEREN’T rusty with.
I think the problem here is that you people pretty much no-life the game with the chars you like most and are just so incompatible with other chars that you think they’re just straight up bad. LEARN TO ADAPT, SUCKAS!
As for combo score, I find it’s actually easy as long as you have a way to keep combos going after you kill an enemy. Even with high damage, if you can wipe each room without losing your combo, you’ll be fine. And technique, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that comes from hitting multiple enemies at once, which can also add onto your combo score. So really, you just need ways to hit multiple targets at once and keep combos going after an enemy dies until the room is cleared. Plus, high damage and focusing on technique also improve your time, which is also important to rank.
I’m fairly certain Technique is an accumulation of all the Technical Score values of all the attacks you hit with (and I think each enemy hit is counted).
Look for pre-Field update videos to see how Technical Score works, since it was visible on-screen back then.
So in other words, hit multiple enemies with each skill for higher technical.
endy, if you want to talk about blind brand loyalty you should look at sony before nintendo. anyone with a brain would have dropped sony like a brick after the “we’re transferring your personal info without any security at all” PSN debacle, yet lookit that; there’s still hordes of fanboys. at least when nintendo is too lazy to into security, they just don’t do whatever would require it. still stupid but at least it’s not virulently so.
I like Sony’s PS3 because it has games that XBox360 doesn’t have. I can’t run some of these games on emulator since it’s hard to find people that have it as a torrent.
I like Nintendo for their games that lets you play with others in a friendly environment, then I kill them intentionally.
I would be careful with using your credit card and personal info on PSN. They do need better security.
Dude. I’m assuming you have NEVER played LuCiel. Just to let you know…LuCile needed 3 things…1:better base damage. I think KoG though if there is a dual character that meant double the OPness. I see what they meant because it’s only right to think that of you had common sense and it was in theory. Not mad at all..seems like a very human mistake. 22nd LuCile does need better hitboxes. Well mainly Lu. It is easier to escape combos than any other character and without upgraded gear she/he has go similar to add. 3: Ciel needs a damage buff. His damage thus far may be the reason why Lu is favoured more. And as a man, I wouldn’t want my pussy getting beat up cause I can’t grow some balls. (just to lighten the mood) so since you don’t play kr i think you should look up reviews. Also watch low level pvp because they aren’t usually overgeard so you can see LuCiel’s actual power without +9/10/11. I play UK and KR but I hear NA just got lanox. I will be leaving kr when noblesse releases in na so i can start spending more money. But take my advice while it’s still valid.
Now as far as the cancellation. I guess we just gotta wait for luciel 3rd path and see if they give us what we want.
Ciel having less damage than Lu actually makes sense if you consider how they work.
Lu is the slow heavy-hitter, while Ciel’s quick but has a smaller weapon. Ciel’s quickness can be used to avoid attacks and catch the enemy into a combo, and then you can switch to Lu to do more damage.
I think the stacked sockets allow players to get a larger variety of how they wanna use Lu and Ciel.
You could improve only on certain stats, possibly getting more in those stats than other characters could ever get, but the other stats would be low in comparison, or you can do the jack-of-all-trades approach and work on ALL the stats.
This is towards what you said before about me be ignorant. ou said you dominated VELDER dungeons. Listen here mdfa. Its a VELDER dungeon. And last time I checked people were soloing that mdfa with a base raven. So PLEASE sdfu before I lose my god damn temper. I see all your ignorant comments and your starting to act like Endgame. GG or NAW?
They solo it as base Raven? What’s the big deal in that? Those people actually PRACTICE as base Raven, and were probably fresh in memory with him as well.
I, ON THE OTHER HAND, AM NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH RENA IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND I HAD NOT USED HER IN A REALLY LONG TIME, SO SHE WAS FAR FROM FRESH IN MY MEMORY!
And I acknowledged that Velder wasn’t exactly the hardest of dungeons. I’m not dumb. But with the conditions *I* had, getting A would have been HARD if Rena was bad in PvE. But no, I BREEZED through it!
Starting to act like Endgame? I don’t even KNOW Endgame!
All I’m doing is clearing up a MISCONCEPTION!
Seriously… They remove all luciel buffs…?
LuCiel has like the worst fucking stats in the game, are you serious community?
But obviously when an even worse patch comes out, nobody says shit.
-_- Even the V switching wouldn’t be OP, it’s only for towns and fields…
I swear to god this is fucking retarded.
Maybe they are considering to let Lu/Ciel use the v key in pve and pvp too. No one really needs the super armor from the v key in town. The most we can do is either wait or give up. Unlike KR, we don’t have much power in NA.
I was actually happy for this update, LuCiel is too fucking weak stat-wise.
Sure Dread Lord has some OP back hits and shit, but that doesn’t change the fact that LuCiel has terrible fucking stats. It’s actually difficult to play PvP when having the worse defense, MK-4 doesn’t really compensate that much when you’re up against OP stated 1 hitters.
You people that keep saying “LUCIEL IS OPPP, NERFF ITT”
I bet more than fucking 90% of you people never even touched luciel in your life.
I main Dread Lord, and the stats are so fucking cancer, especially when they are separate.
Fuck you KoG, you never cease to surprise me with your utter bullshit.
Last week? No update.
This week? LuCiel buff > Canceled > No update,
Just shitty events is kinda boring.
New raid boss? > Give hype > Postpone update with shitty events for a full month > No update.
It’s literally almost been an entire fucking month without anything but shitty events for either “logging in” or “drops”. What the fuck, are you serious?
I’m so done trying to prove a point here.
It’s actually difficult to play PvP when having the worse defense
So, why does everyone whine about Add being “the most broken character” again?
Atleast add can break out of combos due to his fucking awakening that does damage and gives invincibility while awakening, without stopping time, which can save him from group rape skills.
Atleast jobs like Diabolic Esper have a revival skill while currently LuCiel have terrible passives, seriously what the fuck @Dread Lords Dark element passive. It’s almost as if they WANT you to ONLY use dark element.
Atleast add doesn’t have hard to catch combos, and can EASILY counter any air combo due to ^Z multiple hit-spam
Luciel has the worst fucking combo extensions, Ciel has the worst hitboxes ever. Lu is not as good as catching when compared to every other class. Currently all job combo extensions for luciel are shit and are a burden to use. If anything, they need to revamp Ciels hitboxes, people can escape basically ANY combo you use as Ciel due to it not making you flinch long enough. Even attack speed won’t help you here.
People whine about add since hes a fucking brain-dead character with multiple good ways to counter people. ATLEAST add has multiple hit combos which are good for almost EVERY element, every add job has a good catching skill. (Chaser,Maximum Strike,etc) Dread Lord has the worst fucking catching skills, actually even some of dread lords skills are broken. Such as: Runious Impact dealing damage to a person, yet they instantly knock over and take no damage but get the armor break debuff even when the damage lines show. Also Runious Impact can show damage to a person, but if they instantly teleport out of range or move quickly away, they will take 0 Damage.
And i don’t need to see anything about luciel being OP, i swear to god luciel needs a buff in stats and combos. Literally if you check the rankings for PvP in KR, all you see is Add and Elesis. The stacking buff was needed for luciel due to their terrible stats. Even KoG announced on LuCiel release that they are resource efficient not damage efficient, but we all know that was taken away with those ninja nerfs, so now all you got left is a weak character.
Oh and just so you know, LuCiel has worser stats than Add does.
Try not picking out useless reasons i state and shove add into them, pretty sure we all know add is a shitty character. Wait for LuCiel to be released in your server and if you ever decide the play them, then you’ll know how it feels to be weak.
I’m pretty sure that the issue people have with Add (at least those in NA who know what they’re talking about; I can’t attempt to speak for anyone else) is his stupid design, including his uncounterable non-projectile normals. LP and MM aren’t seen as top tier, especially after the nerfs.
DE is still among the best NA has access to (moreso in teams, I believe), but there are others comparable to him in actual capability, at least in 1v1. That doesn’t change that his design is stupid, though; especially considering the reasons that other classes are near him.
As for Lu and Ciel, even if they do have issues (I have not played them myself), giving them more socket space and the potential to combine set effects that others can’t is not how to solve the problem. I don’t think it was the ‘costume/accessory unification’ that people were looking for, either.
Lu and Ciel, as KoG said themselves, are supposed to be RESOURCE efficient (And yes it was dumb of them to nerf their resource passives). So having their sockets/effects stack with eachother actually WORKS for them, AND FITS THEIR DESIGN IN THE FIRST PLACE!
LuCiel’s base stats are lower than the characters people see as ‘too overpowered’ (which in all honesty they just need to learn how to fight against said characters and stop whining), and without the stacked sockets/effects, the only items that affected both of them were their equipment, which honestly doesn’t help them anymore than it helps the other 9 characters. So by having the stacked stats, Lu’s accessories/costumes can affect Ciel and vise-versa, effectively bringing them back into the ranks of “even a casual can do shit with them without trying too hard”.
I, myself, am usually casual, but I sometimes like being competitive. And since I don’t have as much going on in my life now, I now have more time for Elsword, so I, personally, can practice with LuCiel and get good, but without the stacked stats, I probably won’t ever hit S-Rank like I did on my IS/DiE.
Atleast somebody understands. ^
I try to look at things from a different perspective than most other people. Honestly, it’s quite annoying when I hear “Omg please nerf this character” when in actually that character is nowhere near OP.
Jeez. I have to reply to a comment 4-5 comments above the comment I want to comment on to make a makeshift reply to said comment.
Firstly, there’s this huge misinterpretation of how stats(P./M. Atk, P./M. Def., HP) work. “Lu.Ciel has the worst stats in the game”. Ok. Are you talking about base stats or are you talking about stats after gear? Or maybe even the stats that you socket. Let’s go with the former. Lackluster HP, above average p/m atk, average defense throughout all classes. Lackluster xx, above average yy and average zz is the trend for about every class. The “worse stats” aren’t there. What about the stats after gear? Where is the proof tha.t after gear, Lu/Ciel breaks away from the above pattern in a negative way? And if you’ll give me a few, I can prove to you how they even surpass other characters in terms of stats after gear. Finally, the socketed stats(Crit, Add. Damage, Atk. Spd, Red. Damage, etc.) Considering that these stats work the same across all characters, they can’t be considered worse. It’s ALSO why giving Lu/Ciel the ability to double their amount of these stats compared to the others is a bad thing. “Stats” is a very, very broad term for you to use without any specification. In fact, what you were probably thinking of is how, as a base, Lu/Ciel has below average damage to MP ratios(MP:dmg). Below average MP:dmg only persists throughout the Chilliarch/Dreadlord path, which hardly matters to them because their normals do damage that equate to 100 MPs per hit(via Burst of Terror activating like a madman with Seal of Terror and Lord of Terror and Dead Hands)…which they can use without limitation. Low MP:dmg completely disappears with Royal Guard/Noblesse. While they certainly don’t surpass all characters in PvE(DL does in PvP), they are not bad enough to justify such a ludicrous decision as giving them double socketing stats. Not even close.
Secondly, with the “they were intended to be resource efficient” remark, is having even a tertiary resource not enough for you? Being able to dip into two MP bars and the CP gauge is not resource efficient? Their resource gaining abilities far surpass other characters. Both Soul Extortion and Power of Oriax, despite their own limitations, allow you to fill all 3 resources at once. You are allowed to constantly pump out damage and gain resources to use at a later period of time when actively switching between the two. What part of that is not “resource efficient”? And what about the damage that they are able to do, listed above? Should that just be ignored entirely? Both ChA/DL and RG/NB alike can do stellar damage while filling resources to use later in both settings. In practice, the low MP:dmg is not a problem that exists after base job. Also, if we are taking what KoG said into such an interpretation, didn’t KoG say that Lu/Ciel was intended to be a perfect character if played correctly? That means that, on paper, they look amazing. They SHOULD look amazing. Yet, by the basis of your argument, they have the worse of most things. How is KoG promoting Lu/Ciel as this perfect character? In short, not everything KoG says is lived through.
Finally, what the fuck is this about Lu needing better hitboxes and better hitstun? Are you not taking into account distance lag, that comes with us foreigners(Please don’t try to justify your own internet connection. Regardless of how good you THINK your internet is, it creates some form of inconvenience to the Koreans)? Lu contests with the best of the best in terms of hitboxes and hitstuns, rivaling Add in the former and Chung and the latter. Her catching game is certainly not lacking either, having MP to use skills at her and Ciel’s leisure and having a relatively easy time confirming and putting out wakeup pressure. Ciel, on the other hand, does contest for some of the worst normals in the game. However, since Lu exists, he still has options some of the other characters can only dream of having. All of these are merits that mitigate their weaknesses, which is how characters work.
Lu/Ciel, in every way imaginable, is certainly not “weak”.
As a side note, Ciel is the more damaging one at base and throughout the RG/NB path. Lu only has more damage throughout the ChA/DL path. Which hardly matters anyway because any differences in Physical stat will be negligible because they share equipment which is the main source of that attack and most of the damage they deal is pure damage, which relies on the opponent and can be dealt by both of them.
actuality* How’d I not notice that I misspelled that?
The gear and sockets, at the moment, do no more for LuCiel THAN ELSWORD, AISHA, RENA, RAVEN, EVE, CHUNG, ARA, ELESIS, OR ADD! So really, the ONLY think we need to actually take into account right now IS BASE STATS!
Lu and Ciel are a dual character, and KoG’s intention with them was for each of them to cover the other’s weakness. The only major problem is that they believed the lower base stats would be fine because of that.
But if sockets and item effects are stackable between them, then they become the MOST CUSTOMIZABLE of the ten characters. You could focus on one stat, or some stats, or all the stats. That should fix up their lower base stat problem.
You think they haven’t considered lag? If you have a KR account, then yes, you’re gonna lag from the distance between you and the server. But here’s the thing: MOST KR PLAYERS DON’T JUST USE FREAKING LU AND CIEL! If they’re complaining about LuCiel’s hitbox being glitched or broken BUT NOT THE OTHER CHARACTERS, THEN THEY’RE FREAKING GLITCHED OR BROKEN!
To those complaining about LuCiel losing a “needed” buff:
The stats of a character don’t necessarily matter for what the character is capable of doing. For example, Code: Nemesis has a much higher M Atk than VC or BH, yet we know that she can’t possibly hope to outdo their damage output.
The problem is that stats actually DO impact the strength of a character. Yes, it’s not the ultimate deciding factor, but it helps.
LuCiel is resource efficient AND a dual character, so the stacked stats update would have made sense. But their stats without that update are so low that if anyone with equal compatibility between all ten chars existed, they’d still think LuCiel’s one of the lower-tier chars.
In that same sense, the generally lower stats of LuCiel don’t matter for what they’re able to do. It’s their skills and the utilities that come with them that matter. If you don’t believe me, I would like to direct your attention to the video of a DreadLord destroying other top tier PvP classes in seconds with no gear equipped.
That was probably a no-lifer.
Almost all of us can’t play the game 24/7.
Post the link or it didn’t happen. And I doubt they can win against a capable player who knows their stuff without any ‘gear’ on. It only makes me think that he fought shitty enemies..
Someone else posted the link, actually.
You woulda seen it if you just scrolled down a little more.
Wait, nevermind sorry, it was the same person.
While not a top tier class, I think shredding through the tankiness of a LK illustrates my point quite nicely (after the LP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ko5fT08iC8
Believe me when I say that nothing good could have come from giving theae characters twice the sicket stats of every other character in the game.
Err… *socket
Damned html mumbo jumbo getting in the way…
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I’m going back to bed..
I hope you notice Dread Lord isn’t the only LuCiel job path.
That was probably a no-lifer, not someone who has to actually has do other stuff in their daily life.
The bandwagon is strong with these luciel players. Complaining about low stats when you can socket is pretty funny. Its like when people say add has low HP but once you gear him and socket up you can hit 200k hp easier than most other chars. And he does it with only one set of IBs and accessories.
Anyone complaining about that blocked buff to luciel is full of shit, especially when dreadlord exists.
What about Noblesse? Dread Lord is not the only job.
Just so you know Sure, dread lord is good in damage, but so what? They have the worst hitboxes in-game and the hitboxes are super fucking glitchy too.
Sometimes runious doesn’t even give people the damage even though it’s displayed.
Sometimes runious knocks people over and gives them the debuff, yet they take no damage even when displayed.
Sometimes runious doesn’t do the full damage it’s supposed to, around 5% of the original damage.
Sometimes runious does not hit the person even though the person you hit is in the skill animation.
Sometimes Apollyon doesn’t stun after the first hit.
Oblivion has such a small range.
Sometimes the skill freezing while using skills doesn’t freeze your opponent (Occasionally, and i’ve tested)
Dont start throwing shit at LuCiel when i’m guessing you’ve never touched them. LuCiel’s defense is even worse than Add has. Just so you know, Stacking on HP isn’t going to make you any tankier. Oh and fyi Dread Lord has a very shitty hyper that does almost half of it’s original damage due to it launching people in the air .
Noblesse has a shit enough hyper and does crap damage because lesser than half the hits actually hit a person. Using Giant potion even lowers the damage even more drastically because more hits will miss.
Try playing and maining a LuCiel like i’ve had, i’ve had shitty experiences, you probably don’t know jack shit about a character since they arent in your server yet if you play NA. You’ll see when almost ever class can out-do you even if you have good gear and armor. Even when fighting naked, sure burst of terror can work and deal pure damage. So what? It’ll probably be removed sooner or later, why the fuck do you think they would leave something like that there?
No point trying to prove something here if you just spout shit about a character or class you’ve probably never even touched before.
Oh and by the way, just because you see them “strong” in youtube videos, it doesn’t mean everyone has those +9~+11 weapons like the youtubers you see have. Slap a +11 on any character and they can be “OP”.
Your point is invalid. ALL TEN characters can socket!
ALL of LuCiel’s stats are naturally lower than most other characters, and THAT’S where the problem lies.
Add has low HP, yes, but he has INSANE DAMAGE! That’s a TRADE-OFF!
Lu and Ciel? NOPE, EVERYTHING’S CRUDDY!
Plus, you forget about NOBLESSE!
wow go drink bleach all you autistic whining kids
I think personal attacks or demanding the opposition to kill themselves won’t solve the problem. I’m not sure what side you are on, but from what I see is that this class is still a work in progress and KOG doesn’t seem to be capable at staying on schedule. If you can, can you list in point form the arguments of both parties, so we can take this into consideration. If I had the chance to test this class, I would have a better understanding on the situation and which party is correct, maybe.
I am sorry for writing a paragraph directed to you.
I’ve never played LuCiel either but from what I’ve seen (ignoring the community whining about fake OPness ’cause Youtube) is that LuCiel’s naturally weaker than most other characters. Even KoG themselves said that their skills would have lower damage input despite their higher cost.
And from the people that have played LuCiel, I see them saying that they have glitched hiboxes. That’s also a problem KoG needs to fix.
I’m not the same anonymous that started this chain, btw.
I would like to point out that even though Lu/Ciel is the last current playable character of the date this is posted and their 3rd class is not out yet as of the time of this posting i can in fact understand that there are issues that are very large to deal with concerning Lu/Ciel. The first problem is in the 3rd class tree which attack type magic/physical should you class change into first assuming that they are going with a combo character that balances magical attacks and physical attacks. Secondly they have to solve the problem of power as the class is not yet stronger than its predecessor as far as overall utility/strength/power go. Each side of the character in the 3rd class has to be strong enough on its own to fight solo but weak enough to make the player base character change. the coding for such a character would also be hard to manage. Those who noticed the “duel-mode attack” that add has in one of his classes then that hints to the coding problems that lu/ciel have. Every attack might have to be coded to either lu or ciel or be usable by both but have two different effects like Conqueror. It will take some time for the programmers and beta testers to work out just those problems. They might even give each side of lu/ciel a class type that has never been seen before from kog. a new class change where by lu/ceil class changers both sides at the same time for their first class change and then both sides of lu/ciel class change again for their second class change. it is understandable that magical attacks means that ranged is a thing and that melee means close up attacks but with add the reverse was at the very least true. When they finally release the last tree of lu/ciel it might not even be what i have predicted above. So ya if you have not played lu/ciel yet or are waiting for the 3rd class to be released this year then keep waiting because they still have 6 more months to go before they have to fulfill their promise. as for everything else on not lu/ciel: nice chair: no comment on anything else. Quoteable. “Good things come to those who wait.” / “Death comes to those who wait!!”
Yep, the only thing we can do is wait. Good thing I’m busy with microbiology 2020 and biochemistry this summer to worry about the game. Maybe when they do the revamp, Elsword can finally be independent. I was hoping he would be like Meliodas from Nanatsu No Taizai, or be like Archer from FSN. Maybe Elsword will be like Gilgamesh. What do you guys think?