Rough summary until official post is up
Q: Do something about Sinister Intent and Secret Dungeons
A: They are merely dungeons you pass by. No planned changes for these at the moment.
Q: Do something about hoarders in the market
A: Can’t, not enough evidence. Not sure if the company should interfere with the in-game economy.
Q: Why the current trade limit?
A: Use the board instead
Q: Pruinaum dungeons rewards suck
A: We’ll make them easier. Won’t adjust rewards, these dungeons are for accessory farming, mana stone and raid weapon quests. But we’ll think about making more dungeon entry tickets available or increasing the daily free run limit.
Q: Current New/Returning player rewards suck. How would you feel getting just 10 resurrection stones and 3 vigour potions?
A: We acknowledge that the system is old and gives minimum rewards. No plans to fix this issue at the moment. Will think about improving the returner bonus.
Q: No guidelines for New/Returning players.
A: We’re focusing on revamping the early game first. We’ll think about improving the in-game guides later.
Q: We’re bound to get new and returning players during summer. Can you improve the in-game guides in time for the summer update?
A: Busy with other priorities. Can’t
Q: Not enough potions
A: We know. We’ll try fixing it
Q: Rank requirements for certain titles are difficult (Can’t get SS due to combo score)
A: We’ll try fixing it.
Q: CP doesn’t match with the difficulty of dungeons.
A: 7/8 – Will adjust dungeons after Elrianode. Adjust CP requirement and dungeon difficulties.
Q: Issues with annoying monsters and patterns like Plingchu, Avalanche, Magmanta. Takes too long to match for 4 player-specific dungeons.
A: Annoying monsters and patterns will be adjusted on 7/8 patch. Will be difficult to adjust 4 player-specific dungeons due to dungeons taking too long with 1~2 players.
Q: Daily and Weekly quest rewards suck. Not enough motivation to run them.
A: We’ll try adjusting them during the latter half of the year.
Q: Do you recognize the current problem with the enhancement system?
A: We think enhancement events are the biggest problem. We are looking into improving the enhancement system so players can enhance outside of enhancement events.
Q: Spec up relies too much on cash shop items.
A: Can’t promise anything but we are open to improving this issue.
Q: Add pity system for ice burners again
A: Probably not.
Q: Unlimited synergy system?
A: We’ll think about it.
Q: Too many stamps required for trade
A: We’ll think about it
Q: ED shop prices are too high
A: We consider foreign server economy too and they didn’t have any issues with these prices.
Q: Why was El Point Shop removed?
A: It was decided to be removed when I was away. Will discuss adding them again.
Q: We want permanent promotion costumes
A: No.
Q: In-game chat and messenger system sucks.
A: Chat window changes are included in UI revamp. Messenger changes might be difficult since it’s connected to Nexon plug.
Q: The block player feature doesn’t work properly.
A: We recognize the problem. We’ll think about it.
Q: What do think is the problem with the current guild system?
A: We’ll see what we can do about the guild expedition. Not sure about other guild system issues.
Q: Want to see more non-canon classes in stories.
A: We are preparing something outside of the game.
Q: Serious classes suddenly using their base voice.
A: This is a problem with the system. Will try to fix it.
Q: Fix character modelling.
A: It’s a difficult process and is progressing slowly.
Q: Recent costume designs have been poor and feel like ctrl+c ctrl+v
A: There are too many characters to assure quality in costumes nowadays.
7/8 – Fix for issue of characters having a different awakening delay time
7/8 – Fix for issues of escape skills not being balanced across characters
7/8 – Bloody Queen re-balance patch
They have the ability to create test servers but it’s impossible currently due to the small player base count.
They are working on a 64-bit system. 64-bit Should be done around next year but additional optimization patches will need to happen to see any noticeable difference.
UI revamp on the way, especially the buff window
Won’t increase ED reward for raids. Weapon reward seems good enough
New dungeon coming for summer
8/5 – Will adjust raid patterns, giving players more time to do damage.
New PvP gear coming up. Won’t fix old pvp gears.
Cannot separate 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 ranking. Reason: There’s not enough matching pool
Will keep the current raid reward system. Cannot reveal weapon drop rates. Cannot reveal the specs they used to test the raids.
Roadmap
- Elsword ~ Ain level 1~99 revamp
- New Dungeon and New Giant Boss Battle
- New PvP armor
- 4th Path update (Release will be divided into parts over the course of this summer to next year)
Q: Hey devs will you
A: No
I can’t pick my favorite honestly
Probably
Q: Recent costume designs have been poor and feel like ctrl+c ctrl+v
A: There are too many characters to assure quality in costumes nowadays.
They really said it’s too hard to assure quality
devs: what can we do to make the game better?
also devs: oh you thought we were being serious? naa the game is good as it is, keep giving us money, that’s all we care for.
for real its the only conclusion i come to.
oh and the last Question.. lmao
Basically : we don’t care
> They have the ability to create test servers but it’s impossible currently due to the small player base count.
This really is sad wow. I also can’t understand why is it so hard for them to make permanent promotional costumes with shit stats that we can at least buy from Ariel or something. Literally I don’t care to lose the nice buffs but at least give me something to use for socketing early game…
On the other hand I love that we’re finally getting an Earlygame (hehe) revamp that hopefully fixes dumb stuff in story and makes everything fast like Noah/Laby. The tons of ED will be missed quite a lot though, that should definitely be buffed. And I’m very excited for 4th paths, I always thought they were gonna add them at some point. It’s sad for Rose lol but oh well.
> This really is sad wow. I also can’t understand why is it so hard for them to make permanent promotional costumes with shit stats that we can at least buy from Ariel or something.
they don’t even need to add stats nor slots for this, they could simply make the ones we get from job changes into permanents and repurchaseable from ariel! they are just lazy
I believe that’s the reason why they don’t want us to get them permanently in their current state. The 5/5 set effect isn’t op but it’s still quite useful for a good chunk of the game, even up to mid and early endgame (after that IBs are better). And they’re still great for ED and EXP farming pretty much always.
Still lots of people would at least have them stat-less only for looks. Like, as our class, it’s supposed to be our main appearance. It’s nonsensical that they won’t even allow us to *look* like that whenever we want.
And yet they gave us Ver. 2 promos, which, while event only, were permanent for those who got them and basically gave the exact same effects as the regular promos.
sadly ed is like 20m now for all character no buff except they do something else
oof
This was actually pretty hilarious to read.
If you still play this game, you have no right to complain lmao.
Why do people still play this game again?
To suffer.
4th path exist*
2nafish : oh shit here we go again
I feel sorry for 2na
Kog: Let me take 8 hours of your time to basically tell you why I don’t give a fuck about you and whatever you want. Keep bitching. Anyway so 4th paths am i right?
People:..we don’t want that
Kog: of course you do because I said so!
Jokes aside. This entire meeting was a waste of 8 hours of my life. At least we getting an “update” that seems interesting but It literally fixes nothing or more as work as a way to run away from the problem.
I mean some stuff are interesting. Just idk…
I’m holding up kog on that non canon class story part. Cause its the only (or well the most thing) that I find interesting and would actually like.
I’m personally glad they’re adding 4th paths. Everything else, though… yeah, doesn’t feel like they’re trying.
4th paths is cool, but their attitude regarding everything else is pretty terrible. No reasons given for why they can’t or won’t do certain things. It’s only natural the community is going to fill in the blanks with the worst case scenarios, what else would they expect?
At least now I can laugh in the faces of the people who told me that 4th paths for non-Rose chars would never happen (I won’t, but I can).
s/o to the Devs not caring, s/o to 2na being helpful once again, and s/o to the ppl saying “why do yall still play this game” while constantly coming back to check on its progress ` – `
Devs have no power to decide what will or will not be done in a game (in a company that has more than 2 people at least)
I am slightly tired of repeating this and would be great if people educated themselves instead
Some people are just willingly ignorant.
Tell that to the Final Fantasy 14 devs. They’d laugh at you.
As if they’d actually do anything meaningful to the enhancement system.
Also big yikes on releasing another armor set after the massive time/money sink Rigo gear reforging was, unless they’re bringing a system to transfer reforge values like they did with mystic stones.
good thing of leaving the game around elianode is I don’t have to keep up with all that
bad thing is if I ever considered coming back, farming more and more again is simply a no
lol theyre basically saying “maybe” or “no” for a majority of the KR server’s inquiries w/ a handful of (likely empty) promises of the devs looking into ways of improving a system. all these Els/KOG white knights need to open their bloody eyes and see KOG does not care about the playerbase in the slightest at this point. as much as i’d miss Els (at least when it was actually good), seriously just close the game at this point if youre not gonna be keeping the players’ requests and complaints in mind
sadly they won’t, did you see the pic with the dollars flowing in from elsword but they not spending any on it? that basically sums it up
it’s very obvious at this point theyre only in it for the money, theres no doubts about that
the white knights are the ones keeping KOG alive, if ELS dies, KOG dies. They don’t want to go jobless.
When they close the game Void will actually come back. They at least listen to players and were doing more for the game than devs
And i was spending way more time and money in Void than i ever did in the officials, i miss it
if official Els closes then Void will most definitely come back since it wouldnt be illegal anymore since it wont be violating copyright
I don’t think that’s how copyright works.
youre probably right. KOG could close the game and still slam the copyright/lawsuit hammer on private servers trying to revive Els lol
Yes and no when it comes to a private server. Yes if the original game is still running. However if the original game is shut down (example being grand chase before kog reopening it) the private server is free to run its course with no worries due the original game being gone and also being considered “old”.
(more of a Reply to myself).
Tea, let me autocorrect you. It’s more likely to happen for a private server to be shut down when emulating a current game, it can still get shutdown when emulating an old one too but due to the fact that no one is losing money from said old game that the private server is emulating. The private server is given a fresh air and can breathe calmly.
What the hell with all these wishy-washy responses.
Q: Can you, how about?
A: Nope, maybe, will think about.
To me, the most hilarious part is costume, lol that answer. This meeting is a joke or what? KOG should be happy the company didn’t get burned by the attendees
I think they were lucky they were mostly no attendees since it was being streamed
guys heads would be rolling on the floor
“They have the ability to create test servers but it’s impossible currently due to the small player base count.”
yeah, and the horrible conference + horrible updates will kill the only small player base you have
I don’t understand. Why would you KOG staffs consider 4th path can be a good resolution to fix the problems?
Players didn’t get the balance they want, a better player base they have been waiting for, but unwanted 4th path which may destroy the balance and game experience again.
when they answer that the next questioun should’ve
“don’t you think that you have a low player base cause of the bad work you’ve done?”
that would’ve been the BEST QUESTION EVER DONE
4th path = more $$$
This is the most profitable move for KOG, but it is not healthy for the game at all in this state.
SO TRUE.
Funny how Kog isn’t afraid to show their “I don’t care” personality but when money that leave, you see how quick they start changing. LOL I just can’t. That straight up no to permanent promotion costume literally broke. It’s just straight up. LOL
Although it won’t fix the glaring issues with the game, I honestly would’ve preferred 4th job vs 4th path because the skills you’d waste on that path you could just add them to the new job or better yet just add them to the current 3rd job/master class plus I honestly would’ve liked for them to revamp the engine for the game and give something like Guilty Gear Strive graphics or marvel vs capcom 3 graphics and refine the UI again, the character models would look and feel a bit better but that’s just my take on that part. Everything else KoG “we’ll think about it”………….I’ll just wait and see what happens for this game
master class was a flop … i dont want any more job advances
I believe we won’t get another class advance for about 3 years. At least not until the Demon Realm story is over. (Or until we have to prep up to fight Ran’s army which is a possible new Raid.)
Still no story mode for the Berthe raid but they’re priorities are revamping the quest from 1-99 which only takes a day or two. Guess i’ll just stay on hiatus.
“Only takes a day or two” And you’re basing this on…?
Quests and even entire regions being skippable, stamina refilling every time you level, account-bound stamina potions that have no daily use limit
I thought he was referring to the revamping, not how quickly players go through it.
Hoping that the new Elsword will not be forgot by KoG like RM
Everyone: Tell me you don’t give a fuck without telling me you don’t give a fuck
KoNG:
No plans
No
Won’t
Busy, can’t
Can’t promise
We’ll think about it (<- For the BLOCKING system smh)
Cannot assure quality (<- This one actually made me flinch from embarassmen ppl r paying money 4 dis what the actual fuck)
Having spent 6 hours in this stream, I’m appauled at how little KOG actually care for their players. The dismissive answers, the almost child-like attitude to questions they don’t want to answer, the awkwardly long silences when asked something they didn’t expect to just beat around the bush and push it to the side…and then trying to make this seem not-so-bad by giving us a 4th Path teaser? You did this exact same crap with Rose’s release too, announcing it when NO ONE wanted something new and wanted the game to be in a better place.
You had your own dedicated players that chose to represent the begging community to make your game more enjoyable, dressing up very professionally and not once losing their cool to the crap you gave them back. Like, holy shit dude, could you be anymore disrespectful to them??
I knew I shouldn’t have gone in with any positive expectations…but jesus christ dude this was more than disappointing.
didn’t they said anything about mod/force skills
The live comments on Stream were a bunch of laughs and question marks.
The permanent comments on the video are people asking why they are releasing 4th paths on the same stream where they said not enough main power to develop the game.
KR reaction was the same as ours.
what’s the problem with perm promo costumes? They are gorgeous! They should at least be added to MW
At least give us no set effect set+ hair part too. I love LK and RS hair style.
Tuna has the popcorn, I will prepare everything for s’mores, what kinda snacks will you bring once the whole KoG HQ is imploding because they HAD to close servers? :D
“Elsword ~ Ain level 1~99 revamp”
Well I dare to guess the “revamped” story would be shortened into something like: “Hey some thugs stole Ruben El Shard. Let’s go on a journey and kill some Nasods and kill some demons and kill some more demons and kill some even more nasods and finish by fighting the Sun Master without knowing why we do all those!”
There was a Closers conference?
Players: ”We want more Original Songs!”
Devs: ”No”
…
Devs: ”Anyway, here’s Wonderwall”
WOOO YEA YOU GO KOG. BEST UPDATE EVER, WOO YEA, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH THIS WAS WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED!!- some oblivious fans
This meeting summary is literally the only funny thing about this whole case. At least they are aware/acknowledge they don’t care. That’s fine with me, that’s all I wanted.
just close the game if you don’t care then.. fucking hell m8..
I like how they stated that the director wasn’t there when they removed stuff wow this company is shit like they literally told us they dont even know what they are doing the fucking director doesn’t even know what going on in the game how badly this game dev can be like this was deleted long ago and he never noticed till now WTF thank god i quit this game and just enjoying the chaos
Q: Why was El Point Shop removed?
A: It was decided to be removed when I was away. Will discuss adding them again
Officially a dead game.
It’s stuff like this that makes you wonder how KoG/Nexon continues to make money…
I mean Christ, it’s headed to levels like EA Games at this rate.
the meeting did not answer directly all the question that we need to hear, they just play by ear that we fix this and that and those but no results..remember they prmose us to fix the ap set meter to lessen the ed and magic crystal we need to use but they change next to little to none..instead of 4th job they instead add another HA like a specific HA on that class like in DN.
Another HA? What are you talking about?
why u put gif closers conference?
anyone already know about closers conference?
Lets all be real here.We all know why they don’t want to make promos perm.Because even if they don’t have stats they look very pleasing and only rivaled by some super rare IBs like WDS and such.Their answer to enchament is a answer it self.I recently wanted to see if i could get a plus 10 for the price of a newly released game.With hammers nada.
what we need to do:
rally both KR and NA,and have 1-7 days of strike after the first update of this bullshit is released.unless they give major changes people want for years,to start with promos perm like ver 2 for 3rds and enchament system rework.
Okay, so I found this video just now, and it seems to explain quite a few things that this post doesn’t. I’d recommend giving it a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KrH4-4KF7Q
Boycott 4th path. Just not create them.
Yeah, I’m gonna have to say no to that.
Ok I’m nostalgic sorry omg
I wanna give a chance but…
q_________q
They don’t need to care about the player base if they still get paid a ton of $$. They’ll make a lot of money from the “4th paths” because people in NA still spend $44+ on job change. Not a single thing was promised. There is still no pity system for any gacha aspect in this game. Yet people still spend.
Whatever armor meta is after rigomor, it will be more p2w than rigo. You will see a ton of people enhancing +11 armor, and a handful of people still going for either +12/13 during the enhancement event, as people already were doing before this meeting. It’s predictable at this point. This is a game that obviously won’t get any better as long as people still fund KoG for shit services.
You know…I keep coming back to this game news…holding on to the hope that it will get better and I might come back to it one day…Now I wish it just die so the people who gave birth and/or the people who are working on it can stop decimating it into a pile of cesspool.
Now whenever I see a game that has Nexon in it, I just be honest and say “It’s fucking Nexon, I’m not touching that” and just take the flames. Many games have their fair share of controversies, at least they are trying so hard to better their “game” part and try to play it safe, but I have never seen someone don’t even give a fuck about the fucking “game” they are trying to make like this.
In short: they won’t change a damn thing.
They still don’t listen to the players.
Everything I most want to see change, they won’t do.
Permanent promotion customes? – NO
Fix for enhancement system? – NO
Pity system for ice burners? – NO
Reduced ED shop prices? – NO
Story mode for Pruinaum raids? – not even mentioned.
OK. My money will keep going to Genshin Impact.
I can see where this “””balance””” is going to.
It’s going down a pit.