11/17 Balance Patch Notes
| Character Name |
Class Name |
Skill/Trait | Before Update |
After Update |
| Elsword | Lord Knight | Liberated Will : Lord Knight |
– | Flame Geyser, Triple Geyser Physical changed to physical damage |
| Grand Cross | Grand Cross -consume 10 extra MP per 0.5 seconds to charge (Max MP cost 50) -10% damage increase and 20% range increase per charge [PvP] |
Grand Cross -consume 25 extra MP per 0.5 seconds to charge (Max MP cost 50) -25% damage increase and 50% range increase per charge
[PvP] |
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| Knight Emperor | Battle Ready | First Hit effect(Critical 100%, Maximization 100%) only works on first damage | First Hit effect(Critical 100%, Maximization 100%) works on entire skill except Hyper Active | |
| Infinity Sword | Infinity Strike | Enhanced Trait | Heavy Trait – Damage 144% Increase Cooldown time 120% |
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| Liberated Will : Infinity Sword |
– | Flame Geyser, Triple Geyser turns Physical damage | ||
| Rage Cutter | Enhanced Trait | Empowered Trait – Damage 120% |
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| Rena | Rena | Perfect Storm | [Dungeon] Storm(Magical) : 640% Multi hit HP/MP Recovery : 2% [PvP] |
Invincibility retained until skill is completely finished casting
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
| Combat Ranger | Back Kick | [Enhanced] skill effect change: – Cast low kick if skill key is pressed during successful back kick hit |
[Enhanced] skill effect change: – Cast low kick if skill key is pressed after back kick |
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| Wind Sneaker | Liberated Will : Wind Sneaker |
– | Phoenix Strike changed into Physical attack damage | |
| Grand Archer | Gungnir | Enhanced Trait | Heavy Trait – Damage 144% Cooldown time 120% |
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| Ace In The Hole | Haste Trait | Heavy Trait – Damage 144% Cooldown time 120% Invincibility retained until the skill cast is finished in dungeons |
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| Aero Strafe | – | Skill Cast speed increased
Invincibility retained until the skill cast is finished |
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| Wind Blast | – | Skill Cast speed increased
Invincibility retained until the skill cast is finished |
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| Daybreaker | [Mod] Wind Blast |
– | Skill Cast speed increased
Invincibility retained until the skill cast is finished |
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| Grand Arrows | – | Aero Strafe added to affected skill list | ||
| Trace of Stigma | When using active skill 3 times, apply Evolved Stigma on nearby enemies | When using arrow skill 3 times, apply Evolved Stigma on nearby enemies | ||
| Trapping Ranger | Karma | –
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
Skill hit range becomes wider per 1 hit
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| Night Watcher | Gliding Strike | – | Skill Cast Speed Increased | |
| Trapping Arrow – Fungus |
[Dungeon] Arrow(Physical) : 142% Poison Explosion(Physical) : 3030% Poison Smog(Physical) : 121% (Multi hit) [PvP] |
Enemies within the smog gets Movement Speed, attack speed Decrease and receive increased damage
Damage adjusted
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| Call of Ruin | – | Skill Cast Speed Increased | ||
| Liberated Will : Night Watcher |
– | Phoenix Strike changed to physical damage | ||
| Twilight | [Mod] Trapping Arrow – Fungus |
[Dungeon] Arrow(Physical) : 143% Poison Explosion(Physical) : 3222% Poison Smog(Physical) : 103% Multi hit [PvP] |
Enemies within the smog gets Movement Speed, attack speed Decrease and receive increased damage
Damage Adjusted
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| [Mod] Gliding Strike |
– | Skill Cast Speed Increased | ||
| Raven | Weapon Taker | Veteran | Hit KD amount Decreases. When HP is below half, Damage Increased and Awakening recovers MP
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
Hit KD amount Decreases. When HP is below half, a [Veteran] buff activates that increases damage recovers MP in awakening (This buff does not automatically disappear even when HP recovered over half)
[Dungeon]
[Veteran]
[PvP] |
| Eve | Eve | Code : Recovery | – | Invincible when casting(Super Armor in PvP) |
| Code:Empress | Space Wrench | Enhanced State – First Hit Damage Increase
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
[Enhanced] skill effect changed – Damage 1.2x Increase [Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| Cheat Code : Rule Break |
[Dungeon] Summons HP Recovery ratio : 5% Summons Damage Increase : 30% Duration : 30s [PvP] |
[Dungeon] Summons HP Recovery ratio: 5% Summons Damage Increase : 50% Duration : 30s [PvP] |
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| Code:Electra | Kugel Blitz | – | Homing, Fusion field’s tracking range increased | |
| Particle Ray | – | Homing, Fusion field’s tracking AI enhanced | ||
| Giga Stream | – | Homing, Fusion field’s tracking AI enhanced | ||
| Code:Battle Seraph | Linear Divider |
– | Homing, Fusion field’s tracking AI enhanced | |
| Energy Needles | Enhanced Trait | Skill Cast Speed Increased
Enhanced Trait Invincible when casting |
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| Energetic Heart | – | Can move out of skill cast animation quicker | ||
| Extreme Virtual | – | Homing, Fusion field’s tracking range increased | ||
| Thousand Star | – | Invincible when casting | ||
| Code:Sariel | [Mod] Giga Stream |
[Dungeon] Beam Attack(Magical) : 816% (Multi hit) Amplify – Beam Attack(Magical) : 979% (Multi hit) Diffuse – Beam Attack(Magical) : 721% (Multi hit) Homing – Multiple Electric Field(Magical) : 150% Multi hit Fusion Field – Multiple Electric Field(Magical) : 74% Multi hit
[PvP] |
Homing, Fusion field’s tracking range increased
Normal Cast, Amplify and Diffuse Cast lasers: Each laser hits separately
[Dungeon]
[PvP] Invincible until Skill finishes casting |
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| Ara | Asura | Liberated Will : Asura |
Additional Damage Increase : 20% KD reduction : 50% HP Recovery : 1% Chance to not consume energy : 5% |
Critical Damage Increase : 20% KD reduction : 50% HP Recovery : 1% Chance to not consume energy : 5% |
| Elesis | Crimson Avenger | Brandish Breaker | – | In Dungeon,
Invincible until Skill finishes casting |
| Overflowing Blood | When HP is below 50% (PvP 25%), Blood Hit HP cost Decreases
Chance to obtain demonic energy from enemies when hitting with commands or actives
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
When HP is below 50%(PvP 25%), [Overflowing Blood] Buff activates
Special Active Skills also obtains Demonic energy
[Dungeon] Blood Hit HP cost decrease : 90%
[PvP] Blood Hit HP cost decrease : 20% |
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| Madness | – | When using Blood Hit skill, cooldown of all skills registered on skill slot goes down by 1s.(No wedding or hyper active skills) | ||
| Bloody Queen | Reverse Flow | [Survival Instinct] – 3s Damage reduction stat increase when using Blood Hit skills Damage reduction stat Increase amount : 30%[Reverse Flow of Blood] – When using [Survival Instinct] skills 3 times, creates a shield that blocks 1 time, a damage that surpasses portion of Maximum HP – Shield doesn’t disappear until the effect activates – Shield doesn’t regenerate if the shield is already up Negate 1 time, a damage that surpasses 10% of Maximum HP |
When receiving fatal damage [Reverse Flow of Blood] effect activates
[Reverse Flow of Blood]
[Survival Instinct]
[Dungeon]
[Survival Instinct]
[PvP]
[Survival Instinct] |
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| Add | Dominator | Control Tower | [Movement Acceleration] – Per mutation point consumed, cooldown of skills in skill slot reduces by 1s – Applied Skills : Panzer Buster, Phantom Seeker, Install – Ultimate Fury, Install – Star Fall, Install – Charged Impluser, Force Field, Extreme Chaser |
[Movement Acceleration] Cooldown time Decrease activation condition changed
[Movement Acceleration] |
| LuCiel | Chiliarch | Encroaching Terror | – | Encroaching Terror Debuff is applied also when using Special Active skills |
| Dreadlord | Oblivion | – | Can move out of skill cast animation quicker | |
| Dead Cross | – | Can move out of skill cast animation quicker | ||
| Innocent | [Mod] Twilight Judgment |
Pierces all enemies. Explodes at Maximum Range
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
Explodes when hitting first target.
[Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| Rose | Metal Heart | Mechanic Mastery | [RX-78 Land Runner] summon Chance : 20% Summon’s stat Increase : 20% |
[RX-78 Land Runner] summon Chance : 20% Summon’s stat Increase : 50% |
| Optimus | Magnetic Guarder | Duration : 20s | Duration : 30s | |
| Laby | Twinkle child | Roll-Roll | [Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Squishy clump(Magical) : 788% Multi hit All Element Resistance Decrease : 150 Duration : 10s [PvP] |
Skill Cast Speed Increased
[Laby will help!]
[PvP] |
| Let’s punch together | [Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Group of Light(Magical) : 825% Multi hit Groggy Duration : 2s [PvP] |
[Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Group of Light(Magical) : 914% Multi hit Groggy Duration : 2s [PvP] |
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| Milky way | [Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Starlight(Magical) : 668% Multi hit Physical, Magical Damage Decrease / Physical Magical Defense Decrease : 20% Duration : 10s [PvP] |
[Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Starlight(Magical) : 690% Multi hit Physical, Magical Damage Decrease / Physical Magical Defense Decrease : 20% Duration : 10s [PvP] |
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| Shining Romantica |
Sunshower | [Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Sunshower(Magical) : 609% Multi hit recovers HP/MP of all party members within range by 15% 3 times [PvP] |
[Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Sunshower(Magical) : 708% Multi hit recovers HP/MP of all party members within range by 15% 3 times [PvP] recovers HP/MP of all party members within range by 1.5% 3 times |
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| Refraction | [Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Cast (Magical) : 2076% Light Zone(Magical) : 232% Multi hit Reduced damage for all party members within light zone : 40% [PvP] |
When casting with [Laby will help!], enemies don’t get launched [Laby will help!] version of light zone changed to have same hit amount as regular version [Laby will help!] [Dungeon]
[PvP] |
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| The wind is blowing | [Dungeon] refreshing wind(Magical) : 372% Multi hit[PvP] refreshing wind(Magical) : 107% Multi hit [Laby will help!]
[PvP] |
Skill Cast Speed Increased Buff Duration Increased Skill range slightly Decreased[Dungeon] refreshing wind(Magical) : 383% Multi hit [PvP]
[Laby will help!]
[PvP] |
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| Hide and Seek | – | Tracking bubble’s Duration Increased | ||
| Caught you! | [Dungeon] Grapple Bubble(Magical) : 298% Multi hit [PvP]
[Laby will help!]
[PvP] |
Grapple Bubble is generated in a lower position than before. Using with [Laby will help!] will apply freezing effect slightly faster
[Dungeon]
[PvP]
[Laby will help!]
[PvP] |
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| Radiant Soul | [Mod] The wind is blowing |
[Laby will help!] [Dungeon] Rolling wind(Magical) : 501% Multi hit Raging wind(Magical) : 420% Multi hit Movement Speed / Jump Increase : 20% Attack Speed Increase : 10% Duration 15s [PvP] |
Buff Duration Increased.
[Laby will help!]
[PvP] |
Please tell me Awk Duration on Raven removed…
Please tell me Awk Duration on Raven removed…
Please tell me Awk Duration on Raven removed…
…
OH COME ON
What do you mean Awk. Duration on Raven? You want him to not have awakening??
Focus Strenght’ passive
Oh I see…
Why do you want it removed though? It’s not that big an issue when facing any given raven, the real issue is speed and class specific passives and effects, not that one base passive.
If anything that passive could use a buff its pretty mediocre as of now.
Uh… I am Raven i don’t face any raven , is a nerf passive since that AWK time as added
is a minibuff on pve, and on pvp is about 3 secs, you can run for 3 secs if you need the extra MP
I really like that BQ passive change, better suvivalibity
it’s better if you can 100% use 5 skills to not automatically dying
5 skills in 10 seconds? Were they drunk?
Well its possible cuz u spam skills anyway + gale
tho gale was nerfed and 1 single skill can easily deplenish your bar so i’m not so sure about this passive… is way better than the former state of it that for sure.
Gale was nerf hard tho BQ now has a CD passive making that a bit easier to get 5 skills in that 10sec but skill’s start up and end time tho makes it some what harder to get 5 skills in 10sec
Um, Actives count toward the skill requirement. Just spam those.
Only Special Actives count for that. Read the wiki. The only thing that does not care about active/special is the cooldown reduction.
The wiki did not update the description of the skill, only the effect. The description on the wiki still states that Survival Instinct is an effect that increases damage. The patch notes specifically state that Iron Body – Strong doesn’t count, but otherwise simply says “skills”, not “Special Actives”.
Sorry, I meant reduces damage, not increases damage.
nah there not drunk after look more in to the buff from what i know and played if you would die, the res passive kicks in: removing debuffs, and healing her, then when you revive from the passive then if you fail to use 5 skills in 10sc she dies again but if you do get 5 skill in 10sec, she’ll get doubled the healing for up to 20% additional of her hp.
Those enhanced trait changes were the most beautiful thing about this patch.
liking the rena stuff, just wish they would fix up Guide arrow or buffed Phoenix strike alittle.
Does this mean VC/NI is gutted now or am I wrong?
Trapping Arrow – Fungus changes are looking pretty sweet.
w h e r e i s A i n
Oh right… if there are buffs, then there is none for Aisha…
No Doom bringer buffs, CS buffed and no Ain nerfs huh ok
Ains dont need any nerfs.
I’m pretty sure the point of this balance patch was to bring everyone up to Laby’s level, except those that were arguably already there.
So you need to 3 beams to hit to get higher dmg, seems doable.
…
Lol physical Pheonix strike….
Why in the flying burning fuck Radiant Soul was buffed?
She is already strong, like stupidly strong
she’s the money maker dude. what use would they have for laby if they killed her on release.
Wait 6months~1year and the nerfs will start coming
Kr’s were complaining that her damage was lackluster/ bossing was bad with casual gears ( compared to EtW’s using +6/+7 and can do add in under 2 mins) so these buffs look solid. buff duration increases and nothing Too major.
They are probably just rolling out buffs for her because they aren’t releasing 3rd path for a few more weeks to a month, so they have to keep Laby players invested.
Because she is so weak when it’s not a fully support play like in raids ?? She needs to be able to do things alone too.
Can someone plz buff CC on pve, he is so dead that is just sad, at least a little bit of damage
The fact that Radiant Soul was buffed enrages me in so many levels
EW was slightly nerfed on RaS release
yes i’m still salty about that
and chances are that Radiant Soul will be nerfed as well when Daydreamer get released
Most of these buffs are small percentage buffs and buff duration increases. with a range decrease on wind blows skill. and the cast time thing allow RaS to keep up imo. rolling/Wing were long ass cast times a BQ/EtW/Ritcher can insta nuke mobs by the time the animation is finished.
Daydreamer? is that the name? waaa so aesthetic
Actually, based on the information in the datamine, Daydream is the 2nd Job and the 3rd Job is Nisha Labyrinth.
that don’t really make sense
The values. Rusty Child is one value higher than Twinkle Child, which is one value higher than Sparky Child. Daydreamer is one value higher than Shining Romantica, which is one value higher than Rumble Pumn. Nisha Labyrinth is one value higher than Radiant Soul, which is one value higher than Eternity Winner.
Looks like the “pecking order” you’ve described there. Upon contemplating, I see the pattern.
1st path -> 1st job -> 2nd job -> 3rd job
^ ^ ^
2nd path -> 1st job -> 2nd job -> 3rd job
^ ^ ^
3rd path -> 1st job -> 2nd job -> 3rd job
a question? Where did they get the information about Laby’s third job?
datamining
I mentioned the datamine a while back, how did you not notice that?!
Giga stream now deal damage for each pillar…. Just like it used to
I’m kinda happy and sad at the same time because I can no longer deal massive damage to smol enemies but I can delete thicc enemies
Buff Time of passive shining presence of Bluhen pls
Ammmmmmm i dont understand the Weapon taker balance, someone explain me this?
Of course nothing for Aisha.
I’m tired of her being hated by KOG, she’s so wonderful.
LF] Rose buffs
OMG, Ain, Add still no touch :))
So Renas can get iframes on Perfect Storm while the skill is moving, but they’re not locked in animation?
Not sure if that’s what it means or just a minor iframe increase.
6% to 15% heal is nice though
And Ace In The Hole can it now be used as 15 sec. invincibility? (but cannot move, locked in skill anim.)
Free force skill I guess (you could say well it costs 300MP but I imagine this won’t be a problem for people who play meta with potion chugging)
Same with Wind Blast, extra few seconds of iframes while not in animation lock?
I literally can’t tell what it means, “Invincibility retained until the skill cast is finished” does that mean iframes for full duration of arena being locked in animation, or iframes until the skill disappears and stops doing damage?
And it says something different, “Invincibility retained until skill is completely finished casting” for Perfect Storm. Confusing, guess we’ll only know when patch comes out
Grand Arrow change: Fantastic, now I don’t have to change my playstyle to using Hunter’s Steadiness every 15 seconds to keep stacks… Actually i guess I still have to change after allbecause Aero Strafe isn’t really a mobbing skill. And the cooldown is 14 seconds (so you have 1 second to use it before you lose your stacks, unless you are gonna stack with other great PvE skills like Rapid Shot, Arc Shot, Backflip Shot, Ace In The Hole (a little better) and Hunter’s Steadiness (inconvenient to use in the middle of bossing or mobbing because it stops you))
Stigma passive change: Well, now you don’t even have to think about using active skills to stack. But since the rebuff has a 30 sec. cooldown, now there’s a different complexity level where you have to keep track of how many arrow skills you’ve used so you can use the 3rd arrow skill and unleash the debuff at the right time.
Of course a lot of dungeons don’t even let you debuff so this may be totally irrelevant for endgame Renas (disclaimer my Rena is not endgame, can’t enter Raid)
BUFF DIANGELION FOR GOD’S SAKE
like PLEASE
Where is The real buff needed tô eves and Aishas ? Well… better than nerf
Aishas dont need any buffs. They are fine as it is. Only thi g they need is a pvp nerf.
I honestly don’t think the need a PvP nerf outside of maybe the MP gain skills giving less in PvP (and meditation giving garbage MP cause enough MP for a skill for free is just wrong).
Only really skilled Aisha seem to be doing any damage on NA cause well… not really finding many in PvP.
KR on the otherhand… yeah they’re still more than relevant there.
Saying that really gives me the vibe about how you dont have any clue how much cancer Oz is in team pvp and following her is AeS.
“Aishas dont need any buffs. They are fine as it is. Only thi g they need is a pvp nerf.” – before saying a sht you need to play Aisha yourself. Pvp nerf because you think she strong in 2v2?? Even if it was true (it’s not) – it’s so salty and braindead to asking nerf char in pvp only because one pvp mode (that highly depends on teamwork btw). In 1v1 Oz needs so much effort to work – you don’t know because you probably playing only few top tier chars and/or being carried in 2v2. And you saying pvp nerf. What a BS.
I’ll just leave here other’s comment from YouTube, which fully reflects the situation:
“Majority of KR players do not play Aisha and they get their ass kicked by remaining god Aisha players. The thing is.. KOG is trying to help noobs who are mostly underage so they can win against adult god Aisha players who spent so much time and money on it. Totally BS.”
Frost don’t come here to spout nonsense. I play Oz and AeS myself you dimwit. If you fail to see how Oz is totally cancer in pvp, you should stop relying on stupid youtube comment as the one you quoted and actually start playing the game yourself.
pff – like I believe you on words – yeah. You playing OS and thats why you asking to nerf her in pvp in general, because you feel yourself too strong in 2v2…? Do you even understand how ridiculous that sounds? I don’t fail to see – I’m playing majority of chars unlike you and I know what I’m talking about. Did you bring any proofs? No. Damage comparasions? No. Skills, combos, mp gain tests compare to other classes? No. What your whiny statment about OZ being cancer based on then? Just another salty class carried lier got his ass kicked by more expirienced player, and who seaking confederate on forum to console his vanity.
You really are stupid are you ? Like I said, start playing the game or put some glasses on if you can’t see how she is utterly broken in pvp. You play the majority of the class in what, A level ? Yea, nothing is broken in A, nobody knows how to play in there Lol. But yea, keep believing she is fine kid.
There are no arguments to prove your bs point and infantile insults as expected – from now on, I’ll simply ignore you.
Abeyll, you are aware that 2v2 is a TEAMWORK-based mode, right? A single player being strong won’t always get you the win if both players on the enemy team have good teamwork.
I think Frost is right. Just because you’ve gotten a few easy wins in 2v2 doesn’t mean your class is too strong. It could just as easily be that your partner did most of the work. If you want to argue against this, don’t just say “Oh, you’re just being an idiot”, because that’s not proof. Show us HOW Oz Sorcerer is as strong as you claim her to be.
I think the cancer that he’s referring to is this.
https://youtu.be/D03UUUh9AAs
Flow – yeah I saw that. The person asked to nerf whole class – keep in mind that:
1. He losing to SAME two guys again and again. Like – let’s judge about classes based on 1-2 pro guys who’s stats and gear we don’t even know, right?
2. He judging about whole pvp class efficiency based on teamwork 2v2 pvp mode.
3. He plays veeery bad as support – basicly runing and letting Aishas to freely combo his teammate and gain lots of mana all the time. It’s more like 1v2 than 2v2.
4. All fights ends with 2 HAs – what else can be said.
Not surprised he got quite a lot of dislikes and criticism in comments.
“I play Oz and AeS myself” as a motivations to request nerfs.
Probably is main Raven and has them lv 80-
Yea. Keep dreaming. Or just open your eyes. Or maybe stopreading youtube comments and start learning with official pvp discord or pvp forums before spouting nonsense. Mister « play all classes »
I respect the modesty that Abeyll has given. Aisha (particularly Oz) is OP and would indeed need the nerf to tone things down. Fair enough. However, let’s try to avoid using “Aisha” as a general reference since it’ll look like Metamorphy is involved in the blame. MtM already her her own issue to deal with regarding catching mechanics being elusive upon instances, but again let’s not try to garner aisha as the norm because I’d hate to see MtM involved when she’s only subpar atm. It sucks that Metamorphy is less practical than Oz so I think it’d be great if Metamorphy get like fixes and perhaps some minor buffs here and there.
If these people don’t think OZ is broken then yeah they’re pretty retarded. The fact that she can snowball with 1 catch no matter what the gear needs to be changed in pvp
I honestly don’t really see how Oz is OP (or any Aisha really), but then again, I main MtM (mained that route since S2 PvP so at least 5 years) and pretty much stick to 1v1…
Did not think my personal opinion would blow up this hard though.
I can see some cases where all 3 do need toned down, but with the fact that two of the 3 routes have glitched combo game that never got fixed (and Aisha gets a lot of unnecessary bad rep from mainly teleport which is honestly a predictable move), not fully sure.
But even still, can’t deny that the easy MP access is a major factor. One gets free MP from awakening (which is easy to do cause she can pot shot with dark balls for low MP cost), and the other two get it from skills (one of which is available pretty easily and honestly shouldn’t be a thing in PvP). And MP can manipulate a match rather easy (mainly by giving access to whatever actives people bitch about).
And that’s on top of charging MP… by the time someone reaches my MtM on a long map, I have at least 40 MP just by letting them come to me… that’s honestly OP given there’s actives you can’t MB and some (like energy road) that can get super armor traits…
The major nerf that we’ve constantly seen go into the death zone of dead strategies is clocking, and Phantom Breath post-buff is accomplishing that much.
They’d only need to kill the hitstun on the skill after a few seconds in order to effectively make her play fair instead of stall and charge for uninteractive MP gain that is made to compete directly with landing consecutive Z attacks nonstop.
Any nerfs after that would only need to target Mana Steal and she’d be much healthier to play against. Every other character has gotten nerfed for this, Oz should be no exception.
Aisha nerfs?
*Scrolls down.*
…..Aisha left completely alone? (Ain too, for some reason.)
Who are you and what have you done with KOG?!
Spare my cute little Metamorphy you lunatic lol
The guy practically worships Aisha. He’s just surprised they didn’t nerf her for once.
He’s just negative as fuck 99% of the time…
I think it’s 100% of the time. Look, he’s still negative there lol
100% of the time. He doesn’t even play the game anymore, he only lurks here to complain and complain and complain and it’s really old and annoying.
He isn’t negative on this comment – he being sarcastic around Aisha’s nerf meme. And yep – it’s his right to “complain” if he’s not satisfied with balance/updates.
Maybe if he still played, but he doesn’t.
Only it’s not “for once”, there have been other times where Aisha wasn’t nerfed. Heck, there were even times where she got nothing but buffs.
This is the result when someone like Endgame is always having high expectations for KoG all the time. Consequently, to the disappointment, and feels the need to address these things like a SJW would do. The Loli-Pedo Laby incident was no more than simply “justice shaming” than justice rights.
Endgame simply judges and points as a “real problem or threat” but ignoring the fact that Loli(con) is but a grey area. Not some “automatic 100% illegal” to the point that prison is a immediate thing. Depending on where you live, the age of consent and the legality of it will depend. Loli’s are supposed to be young prepubescent girls who (despite their behavior) still looks cute. You feel the need to protect and support them regardless, as long they look cute and innocent in your eyes. For instance, a Tsundere-Loli (Aisha as the original prime example — Base class) is rude and cruel to Elsword, but as long she’s cute, ‘you’ still feel the need to be around her either for affection or platonic reasons. The hentai is a problem when it becomes a reality. But hey, that’s rule 34 for you. As the quote states” If it exists, there is porn of it,” regardless. And to further add to it, it’s human nature (anonymously), so whatever happens, is the reality of it. Heck, we’d hate/dislike Endgame’s behavior as much as he hates and judges other just because of Laby… In fact, there’s stuff like Rape, Guro, and BDSM and some people find them disturbing just as much. Keep that in mind as well…
Narcissism; as Endgame likes to think self-fishly that Aisha (And ara) is ‘everything’. I used to be cynical before as I can understand the struggle of being an Aisha and would want more buffs. But that doesn’t matter to me anymore. Just accept the things that they are. It doesn’t mean one will ultimately continue to garner attention of preconceived opinions about everything… That’s why so many people are skeptical with what ever Endgame says. No longer relevant. Just a shadow in the corridors of Babel; trying to rectify some basis by pondering at other people’s sake.
Why do people still want Ain nerfs lmao he’s fine
Laby is the one that needs nerfs and I’m saying this as a EW player. She’s excessively strong, her Might Laby passive is broken as hell and because her base attack dmg is higher than all of the other characters she’s able to easily deal tons of damage compared to them. EW is super fun but she doesn’t need to be stupidly op
And RS has to be deleted from the game because she’s trying to replace the precious boy Bluhen as n°1 support
Actually having played EW… I don’t see how some claim she’s weak…
I mean for fucks sake, she has high damage moves that can be multicast, effectively giving you 2+ skills for the price of 1…
How the hell is that not broken on it’s oen?! It’s like Memorize on crack!
And that’s only a tiny part of it Spice !
Even her non-stacking skills are busted. Take for example Splashy Splashy, a MAGICAL base skill, that is your most trusted bossing skill against tiny to medium sized boss. It deals tremendous amount of damage even as a physical character (23.5k% of your magical attack, iirc).
Next to that you have 2 demolishing skills against medium to large sized boss : Mod Laby Bomb, and… Tropical Pop.
Tropical Pop reach a disgustingly high amount of damage even for 300MP. It’s especially obvious to see when you take some popular boss fight like 11-4, or Drabaki, and you deal 42k% damage on it with a single skill press. It’s even more than the super dreaded Mod Laby bomb full hits !
She also gets really generous cost reductions on her stacking skills thanks to her passive, her CDs goes by really fast thanks to her passive making seconds go by faster once you press ctrl, a 15% damage increase when using Mont Blanc or Nisha Is Pocket.
And also nice 1.2k% homing bubbles(2.4k% in total) on auto attack that also pops a 15% HP/MP regen orb.
She really has everything lol.
I wrote it in haste and I forgot a sentence, I wished to say at base Splashy Splashy is 23.5k% magical, but since your passive makes it physical, it’s nuts.
Lord Knight passive: Battle Ready
“First Hit effect(Critical 100%, Maximization 100%) works on entire skill”
wut
So you just stand still for 1 second and then you can deal 100% crit and maximize damage on your skill…?
or it increases your crit and max by 100% instead of just making your stats 100% and I’m just dumb
Currently, if you use skills like Double Slash or Imperial Crusher, the passive will only benefit the first slash. The meteor/second slash will not have the bonus stats.
The effect has a 10 secs internal cooldown though, so you can’t just strike a pose between each skill.
that’s not nearly as op as it sounds. 80% crit/maxi is the meta already. That’s gonna buff dmg by like, what, 3%? At least in PvE. Idk how it affects pvp.
No changes with Aisha… didn’t see that coming.
But yes, they don’t always nerf Aisha. Shut up about it.
How to clear with Metamorphy? And how to not get outdamage with her lol
Mtm’s clear is godly what are you talking about lmao. It’s her bossing that sucks. Giant Pot + Impact Zone / Super Nova. Literally screen wipe.
Quite the contrary. MtM specializes in close proximity ranges. It is due to her being a melee type of class. In this case, her “Bossing” would excell in that factor. Impact Zone and Super Nova are both a “AoE.” (Area of Effect) Basically it’s based on the size of your skill’s radius and diameter. Now while I do admit that Super Nova is freakin’ big with giant potion AND looks like it can reach anything, but it’s still never going to be big enough to reach monsters from far distances. As you should already know, MtM don’t have any genuine “clearing skills” that can wipe the map from point A (across to the other side) point B. You know – a skill that travel accross the map. Well, It’s more convincing because it’s more consistent. An AoE skill will require you to respam again and again upon specified area. Keep in mind that MtM is only limited to 2 true AOE skills only. (Impact Zone and Super Nova) Everything else is average or small range, and some long cooldown as well. You would ultimately need to be flexible to appeal at all levels and even then, the consistency of pace will still fluctuate over time due to respamming delay.
Quite the contrary. MtM specializes in close proximity ranges. It is due to her being a melee type of class. In this case, her “Bossing” would excel in that factor. Impact Zone and Super Nova are both a “AoE.” (Area of Effect) Basically it’s based on the size of your skill’s radius and diameter. Now while I do admit that Super Nova is freakin’ big with giant potion AND looks like it can reach anything, but it’s still never going to be big enough to reach monsters from far distances. As you should already know, MtM don’t have any genuine “clearing skills” that can wipe the map from point A (across to the other side) point B. You know – a skill that travel across the map. Something like that is more convincing due to its consistent pace. Keep in mind that MtM is only limited to 2 true AOE skills only. (Impact Zone and Super Nova) Everything else is average or small range, and some long cooldown as well. You would ultimately need to be flexible to appeal at all levels and even then, the consistency of pace will still fluctuate over time due to re-spamming delay.
Well, o happen to use crazy worm and mod guillotine, which have some good range in their own rights (not screewide, but noticeable).
And mod distortion… pretty much the MtM version of blaze step, but with damage being 100% even per hit instead of large damage in one shot (still good for mobbing with enough damage).
Granted she is a bossing character, but she has options. And I don’t mean her base job moves either cause despite them being good for any PvE aisha, gust storm and meteor call are still mag damage and she does far more in the phys damage department.
i would like to see flame sword furry of T.VC gets super amor and damage increse so we can use it on dungeon again
I am the only one here who noticed CS in this patch?
I mean we all know how powerfull she is and now instead of mod giga stream doing 9790% with amplify. now it can deal up to 20000% with amplify if all beams conects. althought you have to work a bit to make it work but still only 3 laser beams hitting are more than enough to compensate for the damage lose and more…
Yup, another balance patch and FB is still kinda fked. Atleast bring back absorbing traits for shockwaves. Meanwhile NI gets more n more OP. Really trying to kill FB off it seems
This doesn’t make NI “more OP”. He’s just no longer screwed for damage every time he uses a complete recovery potion.
It would be nice if they gave FB some attention.. I for one wouldn’t mind giving Cut Tendon or [Mod] Finishing Slash super armor, it would actually make them usable as a catching skill that won’t leave you vulnerable.
And ofc, the most braindead Ara branch gets a free 20% Crit Dmg even tho she’s already stupidly strong and most chars gets at MOST 13% Crit Dmg if not 7%.
Kog loves buffing Ara for no reasons. Im not even surprised anymore.
30%, actually, if it’s like any other crit damage buffs (20% x the base crit damage of 1.5x crit damage).
It only works against debuffed enemies, though, so it’s not as free as you’re making it out to be.
Ara deserves to be overpowered for she is super cute.
Not even the shitheads at KOG can deny this anymore.
If cute makes right, then eve and the loli would be absurdly strong too and so would Chung the trap… cause you know, people think they’re cute too
I like both Aisha and Ara, but please get some damn sense…
She lost 20% add damage tho
Add damaged is a joke.
damage*
For PvE then yes, add damage becomes a joke indeed. For PvP however, that’s where add damage shines since your damage really does increase when using add dmg in PvP.
Likewise, maximize is on the same context here; whereas it excels in PvE, but is not that significant in PvP. By which means, you’d only want about 40-50% maximize for PvP. A 100% ratio is insignificant because you’re not getting more damage, except keeping the consistency of the damage to maintain and avoid fluctuating numbers.
Not really? It increases how much damage each of your attacks deal, which is nothing to scoff at.
Which only shines the most when dealing multihit honestly…
Or when your damage is very normalized…
Finally they added Aero strafe to the grand arrows passive thanks god
Yo, you put 11/17 instead of 1/17.
1/11/17
1/11/17 ??????
I had a few people tell me to use Flame or Triple Geyser on Nasod Inspecter when he had his physical barrier up, since I was playing Infinity Sword. I told them no, ’cause that’s not how I play. Well after this, Knight Emperor’s and Immortal’s only source of Magical Damage is Unlimited Blade, which isn’t even 50% of it’s damage.
Oh, I forgot to add in that I kinda wish Rune Slayer had gotten an effect that turned his base class Physical skills into Magical.
Karma buff. Finally! *u*
they need to give other ravens the ability to reawaken regardless if there already awaken, they already removing freeze time on awaking but I want to be able to keep my 3rd beat on my FB, without waiting for it to run out.
Wait… everything procs terror now? Holy crud, I no longer have to Ciel spam for that 3rd job passive… Oh jeez… I’m a bit giddy.
Make Rain of Chaos great again!!
I’m still waiting for that =3=
With any luck, Meteor Call on DW/Metamorphy will be next on the fire-base-skills-to-turn-physical-with-a-transcendence-passive list.
So, a passive that converts Metamorphy’s magical damage (Meteor Call) into physical damage? Why not have the passive that converts “all” of her magical properties (base skills) to physical instead? That way you’re not exclusive to one skills: Lightning Bolt, Gust Storm, Gust Screw, Chain Fireball and finally Meteor Call all becomes as strong as should be expected.
While I do appeal the idea of converting magical to physical damage, this probably will cause a riot as other players will begin to believe they should receive the same treatment; convert magical/physical to desired effect… Personal appeasement like these should be kept to a minimum to avoid conflict between KoG and players.
I’ve seen too much demands from players whom pressured KoG from time and time again, and that’ll only tarnish things down — the sustainability of KoG gets complicated between players and themselves. I understand KoG screw up a lot and can’t do things right sometimes, but if you look at it from rational and consumer perspective, all experiences are based on opinions and even prejudice (those who no longer played but claims things based on preconceived opinions.. I’m looking at you Endgame).
Everyone desires things differently, which why KoG will do what’s best to appease for everyone in “general”. For me, if I dislike/hate the hardships of a certain patch, (and all the ones before or future updates) then I’ll just stay neutral and accept its reality for what it currently is. Basically I still care about unfair updates, but not to the point it matters more than anything.. After all, practically nothing you can do but wait patiently for next patch. Also, refrain from setting your expectation on KoG “all the time”, as that would lead to the consequence of disappointment and/or depressed. You can hope, but don’t expect too much.
except kog hates aisha so that’s a no no
There’s no direct answer whether or not KoG hates Aisha. We can only speculate by theorizing that KoG hates her based on Metamorphy ‘alone’. But I’d like to avoid thinking of that because Oz Sorcerer is rather OP in PvP right now, if you know what I mean. Aether Sage differs in PvP, but her PvE aspect is top-notch at clearing. Compared to MtM where she’s limited by 2 AoE’s (Impact Zone & Super Nova).
In PvP, MtM’s catching mechanics aren’t well-rounded. All of her 100MP catching special actives are based on stuns. (Impact Hammer, Heavy Press, and Air Stunner.) If your opponent happens to have high light resist, that becomes an issue; especially with lag. You’d need to bring Binding Circle if there’s no other option. (despite the fact that Binding Circle cost it cost more MP) At this rate, you have to play like a ninja to keep up with those top 100’s PvP tiers. While some people love a challenge, MtM is no exception when it comes to, ” requiring real skills” to maintain that position. Sure, MtM is strong with commands like ^z dmg, she’s fast and can be quite the formidable foe when use her right, but in the long term, her “catching mechanics” are still rather elusive…
They weren’t hating her when they made mod Frost Barrage. Good things can still happen, don’t be such a nihilist.
Aether might have probably perceived Aisha’s skipped part in a irrational manner; thus influencing her to “assume” that “KoG hates Aisha.” In that case, i would be just a misconception. So, I doubt nihilism is really the culprit here, even so, that’d be a little extreme don’t you think?. But yeah, stay positive and be strong, there’s always good and cool things. Peace~
People still forget MtM’s busted as hell HA that can deal over 500,000% damage if used right… As in, THE MOST POTENTIALLY DAMAGING MOVE IN THE GAME (Even if Angra Mainyu gets all hits in)
That and the fact that with awakening and energetic body, that’s half her skill cooldown out the window… which is still OP despite other classes getting it (or in some cases more).
Still would enjoy mag damage turning to phys for her though…
With all that phys damage increase she can get, phys gust storm and phys meteor call would be monstrously stong
I have finally defeated the Black Mage and perhaps found the strength to quit MapleStory once and for all. And with that, I have decided to retire from kMMOs altogether. And thus, no longer have an interest in following Elsword to watch KOG crash and burn.
Because honestly, it seems the entire Korean industry is slowly dying. The industry has grown stagnant as mobile games slowly consume everything. The last game I saw announced that I had interest in, Peria Chronicles, seems to have been silently canceled. A bad sign as that was a kMMO that truly had ambition. Perhaps that ambition was its downfall. And whenever there is a good kMMO (Lunia, Elsword, Closers), it eventually gets that update that leads the game down a new path that ultimately ruins the game. Namely since kMMOs seem to replace game directors at the drop of a hat. MapleStory is the one kMMO that has stayed true to its self. And….. it’s still too damn grindy. With no signs of trying to streamline the game. (Reboot was a step in the right direction, but not a step far enough.) And with the increase in loli bullshit, it’s slowly turning into the Japanese industry. Everything that made Korean games stand out is slowly being stripped away.
But the truest sign that it is time for me to go, is that Nexon’s founder himself is sick of this industry as well and has put Nexon up for sale. Looks like he doesn’t see a point in it now that the Black Mage is gone too.
Also the Elsword community is 99% irredeemable human garbage. So it’s not like I have any incentive to stick around. Not sure what it is about Elsword that attracted that kind of asshole even back when it was good and the edgelords and lolis that drew in even worse people didn’t exist yet. But that’s how it was. That’s how it always will be. So whatever.
But before I go, I just gotta pay my last respects to the Black Mage. The perfect boss for me to retire on. Not only did he actually live up to the hype of being the ultimate boss after 15 years of buildup (Although there’s some pretty cheap shit he pulls. Especially Phase 3. Who knew something simple like a knockback could singlehandedly make a fight super cancerous?) He was pretty much the main character of MapleStory. While pretty much anything else is identified with the heroes, MapleStory was pretty much associated with the Black Mage. And in the end, he actually turned out to be the hero of sorts. (His true goal was to remove Transcendents from the world as he believed no one entity should have that much power. He himself acting as the prime example. And in the end, what he really wanted was to die. He basically engineered his own defeat. So basically he pulled one big Zero Requiem to unite the Maple World and help prepare them to deal with the boring space Nazis he’s being replaced with.)
There truly won’t be a villain like him again. And I think that over time, even MapleStory will wither and die without him as its driving force. That or whoever buys Nexon will probably screw it up.
Farewell. If it turns out Hell is real maybe we will see each other again.
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Good riddance, see you in 1 month tops.
I always thought the Black Mage was kinda cliche, but whatever, I guess you are entitled to your opinion. Time will tell how serious you are about leaving though.
Maybe with you finally dragging your conspiracy theories elsewhere we can finally enjoy the game without you trying to ruin it with claims of reused content and pandering to the worst types of people. I certainly won’t miss you shoving your headcanon about the characters down our throats anymore.
Whatever though, maybe you will benefit from time away from all of us and learn some sort of valuable life lesson. …Probably not though. You seem so deeply embedded in your own delusions that it seems unlikely you will ever see the reality outside your bubble.
Have fun hating whoever you end up around as much as you hated all of us I guess.
2019 just got slightly better this year.
press F to pay respect T^T
I would make a crab rave “endgame is gone” meme, but I have zero skill in video editing, soooo *shrug*
Goodbye, you won’t be missed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM
WHOOOOO ENDGAME’S GONE!!!
Oh? Really? Good riddance, then.
Bet I’ll still see you around even after this or by another name. Cancers like you aren’t just going to “go away” lol
“99% irredeemable garbage”? You really do love shitting all over everyone, don’t you?
Eh, I’ll believe it if he’s gone longer than 2 months…
He’s honestly more cancerous than 3 tumors and KoG’s balance antics combined
You know you’re one of the guy that you should include into that “worst side of the community” right ?
You’re literally the most despicable person one could be around.
You won’t be missed, now get lost.
If you no longer cared, you wouldn’t have wrote such a long message. I’d love to say “you’ll be missed”, but most people are tired of your obsessed/ pessimistic attitude. So yeah, please move onto something else to bitch about.
You’re worse than the community you hate so much and no amount of victim playing, blame shifting, or fallacies you make up are gonna hide it.
Once again: CC IS LEFT BEHIND. The dude is seriously outdated at this point. At least give him *SOMETHING* that can combat all of these critical damage increase/ more damage received sh!t. The dude has been out in the cold for far too long.
Something need to be buffed on CC, it doesn’t have to be massive but with how things like this are turning out, his outdated kit is really going to screw him over. It’s not that the kit and passives he has are weak: it’s that they got nerfed badly and were left in such a bad state while others got more damage that overcomes his passives and niche.
Got to love me that BQ revive Buff GG
Just when NI, Anemos, Devi’s resurrections wasn’t enough. Ah I love this game.
Least Anemos and NI don’t get screwed over when their rez passive activates. Devi really gets the short end of the spear.
i mean BQ rez passive does not really screw her at all it really easy to do 5 skill in 10sec.. plus it has a Re-activation cooldown of 60s anyway she even gets a CD Buff as well making it easy to do 5skill in 10sec. even the passive gives her a 100% HP additional Recovery rate. it’s to balance out that NI had a revive and BQ didnt, it was also a massive buff to BQ
Yeah, but it isn’t any excuse to give her a resurrection buff along with so many other buffs. That’s like me giving FP the ability to resurrect and automatically get Berserk mode without touching CTRL, despite already giving him high as sh!t damage further.
It doesn’t balance out anything imo.
i said it balance out that NI had a rez buff and BQ did no,t i did not say both are balancing each other, 2nd she needed it cuz she is so shit in Raid fyi
I could care less about Raid, and I know you said that, and I’m saying it doesn’t balance out. It should be high risk high reward, why give her a second chance like this is DBD’s decisive strike?? Trust me I had the same issue when they gave NI resurrect.
I’m talking PVP, Raid is another thing so I agree with you on that.
in PVP it would only be used 1 time anyway noting more when the cooldown is like HA.
We’ll find out if what you’re saying is true about that.
I could careless if she is “bad at raid”: CC is bad at PVE: what’s your point? You don’t see him getting revives: you just see WW getting nerfed. The fact of the matter is that she didn’t need it.
About the PVP argument: so what? What’s your point? It’s still a revive that grants her more damage and sh!t. She didn’t need a resurrect. I’ll say it again: It doesn’t balance her with NI when hers is literally a 2.0 version of it.
For a basic af class dat screams *Im the Newbie class* giving her a revive with such dumb af buffs was a horrible decision . -.
I agree, they weren’t really thinking here.
nice elboys and rena buffs, also catastrophe’s terrors; everything else is just so meh
Ah so BQ can revive wow cool its like BQ rly is turning into just some Nova 2.0
I don’t even wana hear somebody *But she deservs a buff* Yeah she suuuuuure deservs a buff when evrything she does heals her while Nova dosen’t heal from just mashing his forhead on the keyboard
BQ heal wont save you all that much when mods now 1 hit kill you now xD
She still dosen’t deserv it . – . and i bet you only telling me dat eaither cuz you main Elesis or BQ but no matter giving her such a retarted revive is just simply not fair compared to what others have
Don’t give me that BS when you can get that shield that *literally nullifies that one big hard hitting skill*. The buffs she got here was completely unnecessary, especially that revive. That’s like giving CC the ability to revive and get a “unyielding spirit” buff that makes his defense get higher after it.
Also correct me if im wrong but from all those patches dat been over the years.. females characters seem to get twice or 3 times more love then the males ESPECILY Ara
There was a lot of times they were nerfing the Aisha classes and Code Nemesis…
Yeah there were, but in that 9/20 patch Meta got that physical damage increase passive increased *FURTHER*, so they had to revert it because it was that strong.
I also gotta agree with QWQ here. I main CC, and he’s not as fun as he used to be because he’s been nerfed way too far and his passives barely does sh!t now. I know he was broken before, but he only gets *9% physical attack damage increase* in PVP and *9% max HP increase*? That’s barely even more damage compared to what others get. He doesn’t get rewarded for doing his job of tanking and getting 3 beads like a FP would(who barely even needs 3 beads he just needs 1 to 2). Then I look at classes like Meta who barely gets that same amount of BS he got or other male chars that suffered the same f8 like RM(they tried buffing him further although I got the feels it won’t change much). You look at 9/20 and you see mostly the female chars getting the most insane things.