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| == Friendship of Nature Values ==
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| At level 5 its 20% proc chance on my WS in NA Elsword as well as for KR\JP\TW, the values you changed them to are for the pre-revamp. If you look back to before the 8\29 patch on wiki you'll see that the values you added are the same as those which were changed.
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| --[[User:Professor Cirno|Professor Cirno]] ([[User talk:Professor Cirno|talk]]) 01:04, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br>
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| Did you check recently? Because I'm looking at the NA version right now and in the IM shop it says that it's 10.4% at lv5. I don't own a WS on any server that I play, but IM shop doesn't lie, so far as values go. I'll go ask a WS later to confirm.
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| --[[User:TruShot|TruShot]] ([[User talk:TruShot|talk]]) 04:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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| == Elements ==
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| dun move the element in the pvp set unless u make the page urself.<br>
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| What do you mean make the page myself? If you mean "Add Topic," then that's only a one-time thing. Unless you're telling me to remake the page in my name? Pointless. <br> Also, they're just El Shard enchants. What reason is there to have them there besides laziness of people who don't check? You mentioned about servers before, and it's irrelevant. '''They both perform the same effect on every server.''' I even put a link in the Elements page leading to the S2 page (and vice versa), which the top of the S2 page already states that it's not available everywhere (whereas the El Shards we are talking about are in every server). Is it a grand offense to erase something people can check for themselves as easy as crafting potions? I'm just saying, not much detail is needed unless you want specifics, which the Elements page is there for. Bottom line, shards are in every server, and that's what we're arguing about, not the S2 sets. Just because it's on the S2 page does not mean I can't move it to somewhere more appropriate. Only thing I'm arguing for is for anything related to shards to be on the elements page instead of randomly placed in the S2 page. ''Newer people looking at this would probably need to be directed toward the Elements page to see the difference between the S2 set requirements to give an element and the normal. Putting it on the S2 page doesn't give that initiative.''
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| --[[User:TruShot|TruShot]] ([[User talk:TruShot|talk]]) 04:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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| Newer players wouldnt use the arena sets so fast. and since the elements are only for this set, it will be better to put it there, rather then having to press that link which does not even direct them to the correct paragraph. further more, since u didnt use the arena sets, saying it is treated like lvl 20 is wrong as ppl will think they are lvl 20 eq which they are not.<br>
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| Already mentioned that they leveled up. There's a table of contents listed above as well, when a new section is added, it's added there too! I'm not trying to be a smart-aleck, but yeah, you can't baby every person that comes here.
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| Basic [[Arena Sets (S2)]] are treated as lv20, so they maintain consistent values as they level.<br>
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| <br> how does this not say they are lvl 20 eq :I
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